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Well, we'll just ignore my earlier thread about my missed period last week while on the pill and pretend I'm writing with an interest in the 50-something women in the news recently. The 57 yo who had twins via IVF and the even older woman in Georgia who claims a natural twin pg from hubby who had a vas years ago :chuckle
How DO older (well not THAT) old women do? Not that I'm scared or anything, I mean how could I possible get pg at my age on the pill when I only passed dh in the night once all month? :uhoh21:
i think there is plenty of outrage at teen mothers, we have had discussions on this board about that topic. This particular discussion is weighing the issues regarding childbearing in later years, (50-60) is the range that i think was initially brought up. Everyone has the right to make there own decision, but the risks ARE greater than for a younger woman. Both in health of the mom and health of the fetus. THen later with natural age related body degeneration, the child has a far greater risk of being "orphaned" for lack of a better word or dealing with end of life issues for their parents at a far younger age than most people typically are emotionally ready for. This is not an attack just a simple fact. Of course everyone has the right to their own opinion.
they use to be called change of life babies....i guess ovaries want to get in a last hurrah
smoky and vizsla i know that you will be good mothers with your life experience and maturity...
when i was little their was a family who had their only child at age 48 when they had been married for about 30 years...talk about spoiled....she was the poster child in spoiled
i had my last child at 38 and i worried about downs and all the other things that go through a expectant mothers mind
do not take offense at the people that say it is 'God's will'...some people when they can't find anything to say can't keep their mouth shut...be glad that there are other options open to you...it is said that rain falls on the just and the unjust...everyone has to make thier own decisions
the only problem i have is those women who are already below the poverty level and want the expenses of ivf paid for by welfare system...what type of future can these women offer their offspings
Again, a very thoughtless and insensitive statement IMO.My husband and I are very equipped, both financially and emotionally, to handle all the challenges of parenting. We even have two sets of grandparents, and two uncles within 15-20 minutes of us that will shower our future children with love and attention.
My body is telling me nothing more than that I just got dealt a crummy set of cards in the reproductive area.
I'm sorry you took my post personally. This thread is about "Old Ladies Having Babies" and the majority of comments, including my post, are regarding woman past the usual childbearing age--not a 31 year old woman such as yourself. These women may have other age-related physical issues that would impact more than reproductive function.
I know you probly didn't mean to offend...but, offense has been taken to this statement.I'm personally going through infertility struggles. After trying for a little over a year and five months last April (as we were getting ready to move into our newly built four-bedroom home), I found out my eggs may not be any good. I'm only 31.
My husband and I are more than willing to "fool with mother nature". I don't care if it's nice or not...she certainly hasn't been nice to me.
Now, we are going on two years. When I was first told about my diagnosis, I was told my ONLY option was IVF with Donor Eggs. Well, we've already proven my RE wrong twice with artificial insemination. I'm responding better to injectable stimulation drugs than she thought my body would AND I got pregnant in September. Unfortuanatly, we found out it was ectopic and I'm presently recovering from that (no surgery, thank goodness).
If we find that we are unable to conceive successfully any other way, we WILL be using donor eggs and IVF. I don't care if Mother Nature likes it or not...or anyone else for that matter.
It's not just the "Old Ladies" that benefit from this advancement in reproductive science. Many of us younger gals do too.
So many people take pregnancy and children for granted.
Someday, we will fill up some of those 'extra' bedrooms in our house....one way or the other.
If you choose to take offense, that's your perogative.
The title of this post is "Old Ladies Having Babies", not 31 year olds using IVF.
Again, a very thoughtless and insensitive statement IMO.
Majority of the replies here are in reference to the women in their 50's and 60's having babies.
Not all female bodies in their 50's and 60's are going to be safe and healthly to conceive, be it the usual way or IVF. And that's where the issue lies. And what about the babies? Is this good for them?
Do you think it's SAFE? Do you think it's HEALTHY for the mom and children (children) involved?
I could see how you'd be insulted if the people here were making comments about women doing this in their 30's and 40's, but they're not talking about the 30-40's women, it's about the 50 and 60 year olds.
But i think a lot of people are raising serious concerns and questions, and because this thread is about the women in their 50s and 60s having babies, i don't get how this is insulting to people in childbearing years.
Mulan, that was not all your post implied...please go back and read it. Regardless of how it was intended, when one says something to the effect of "that's nature's way" or "your body is trying to tell you something" I do indeed take offense.If you choose to take offense, that's your perogative.The title of this post is "Old Ladies Having Babies", not 31 year olds using IVF.
As for the 50 and 60 year-olds, if they are healthy and willing I don't have a problem with it. I stand by my belief that these babies can have a great life provided for them because they are wanted and because the parent or parents have life experiences that can benefit them.
My grandma was 53 when she had my mom. My dad's mom was 48 when she gave birth to him; his dad died shortly thereafter. I had the other grandparents until I was 13 and my parents were in their 50s.
Worked out OK for both families; but that was back in the days when there wasn't much in the way of family planning.
If moms are vigorous, healthy, and want a child in their 50s or even 60s, well, that child does have a pretty good chance of having a parent for at least the first 20-30 years of life.
Mulan, that was not all your post implied...please go back and read it. Regardless of how it was intended, when one says something to the effect of "that's nature's way" or "your body is trying to tell you something" I do indeed take offense.As for the 50 and 60 year-olds, if they are healthy and willing I don't have a problem with it. I stand by my belief that these babies can have a great life provided for them because they are wanted and because the parent or parents have life experiences that can benefit them.
What I said was "I think there's a big difference between becoming pregnant naturally at an older age and using IVF after you're too old to conceive. I think nature has it right."
I stand by what I said.
Just a little side story... At work we had a single father who had triplets via a (20-something year old) surrogate. Ok, single father, that's a little weird. But what was so much weirder was that this man was 75 years old! He had other children and the next youngest was almost 50! Now I know many people are living into their golden years these days but 75 is really getting up there. He never really told us his reasons but we all thought it was strange.
tHAT'S JUST TOO WRONG. iT SOUNDS LIKE HE NEEDED SOME SELF ESTEEM. hOPEFULLY HE HAS LOTS OF MONEY AND A GOOD WILL AND CONTINGENCY PLAN! cAN'T IMMAGINE EVEN CONSIDERING THAT AT 75 ! tO EACH HIS OWN, HOPE THE KIDS THRIVE!
Well, I am forty seven and no old lady but I do have naturally occurring children, ages six, five and four. I doubt anyone thought Senator Strom Thurmond was ethically irresponsible for having five little kids with his young wife when he was an "old" man..I think it is no one's business but the people involved and if the parenting is good, loving and responsible, every one else should accept it and move on....
VizslaMom
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Exactly! These women (oops, I mean GIRLS) are much less equipped to raise and care for their children.
My dog gets more attention than some of these unwanted babies get!