Nurses-Read this and respond to Dr. Ablow

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I agree with many of his points actually. However, I will take issue with the intellect bloviation. Intellect need not have to relate to choice of career. Unless there exists some literature that states physicians are intellectually superior, I will call BS on his assumption. I will agree that physicians will typically have superior education in science and actual medicine.

I posted this comment on Dr. Ablow's article, and I'm posting it here as well.

The reason I didn't apply to medical school was because I wanted to be a nurse, not a doctor. And the reason I didn't apply to law school was because I wanted to be a nurse, not a lawyer. And the reason I didn't apply to dog grooming school was because I wanted to be a nurse, not a dog groomer. It is ridiculous to assume that, if given the opportunity, a nurse would rather be a doctor. They are different roles. I chose to be a nurse because doctors treat the sickness, nurses treat the person. That is neither good nor bad, just different. Preferring the role of nurse is not a relfection of intellect, but of disposition.

Although his tone is objectionable, on other points, I do agree with Dr. Kablow. If you want to prescribe, be addressed as "doctor", and take other lead roles in the direction of a patient's care, what you really want to be is a doctor. Go to medical school.

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There's no need to react one way or the other to this article as he is doing the age old "comparing apples and oranges". So, the whole article is basically meaningless verbiage by someone who sounds like he is trying to prove something to himself.

When everyone does their job they are trained and experienced enough to do, and within their own scope of practice, then the patients will always win out. If we argue amongst each other about who's smarter, or who's "knows" better, the patients will suffer.

very wise words, valerie.

i just cannot become insulted by the likes of a blathering idiot who gets paid big $$ to write antagonistic articles.

his apparent ignorance reflects on him, and has nothing to do with anyone else.

leslie

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Specializes in Psych.

So I noticed he didn't mention PAs. Do PAs impersonate doctors? And how does he know how easy nursing school is? The reason people don't fly over here to see famous nurses... because the doctors take the credit, House any one?

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Specializes in Health Information Management.
So I noticed he didn't mention PAs. Do PAs impersonate doctors? And how does he know how easy nursing school is? The reason people don't fly over here to see famous nurses... because the doctors take the credit, House any one?

There were a couple of PAs in the comments section who made remarks to the effect that PAs are a part of the existing structure which values doctors in the lead role. Therefore they are very different from those uppity nurse practitioners who all just want to be doctors without having to be as smart or as well trained as doctors.

Like I said before, I found the comments much more depressing than the article itself; however, that's hardly uncommon for me.

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Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.

Did something happen to the OP's link to the article? I'm not seeing it.

(but maybe this is good for my blood pressure ... :p )

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Did something happen to the OP's link to the article? I'm not seeing it.

(but maybe this is good for my blood pressure ... :p )

altra, it was there, but now it's not...?:confused:

leslie

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Right so here it is in a nutshell.

Until we modify NANDA and eliminate such things as depleted energy field and impaired religiosity, nurses will never garner the respect that we crave......

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Specializes in M/S, MICU, CVICU, SICU, ER, Trauma, NICU.

I'm not going to get annoyed by some idiot. So I'm not going to read it. I'm just responding to the OP.

There is documentation somewhere (I think I read it somewhere on Mensa's website...don't remember) that in order to COMPLETE medical school or even to get a PhD--requires a minimum IQ of 130.

If you read many of our own posts in this forum, there are SOOOOO many here who don't know how to spell, don't know grammar, etc., and not because they're sleepy, or tired...they just don't know.

So..perhaps there is SOME validity to it--I hate to say it, but I would tend to agree that nursing tends to attract the not-so-savvy--because of nursing's image that "anyone" can be a nurse--not that they would be able to pass anyway because the weeding out process kicks in..or did when I went to school.

J

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Here's a blog post written by a Fox contributer with an entirely different view:

http://health.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/04/28/only-a-nurse-can-make-you-a-better-doctor/

It is based on the premise that only a nurse can make one a better doctor (I hope this doesn't violate terms to post it, an apology if so!).

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Before you crank too much energy into responding to Dr. Blowhard, please consider this: I spent some time a couple of weeks ago crafting a response to his column, and I posted it. It was up for a short while, then mysteriously disappeared.

It might have had something to do with my pointing out that Dr. Blowhard could be forgiven for not knowing much about nurses, their educational levels or their responsibilities since he doesn't appear to spend any time with them. I noted that he spends most of his time being paid to testify for criminal defendants and making media appearances. When a real doctor weighs in -- and by that, I mean one who actually works, not merely cashes in -- I'll pay attention to his or her opinion about health care.

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Actually, I recently saw a rough study where the average IQ was around 114. Of course it was done by a physics professor who was sort of bloviating over the average IQ of physics majors. :D

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He's on Fox "News" -- which is not exactly at the pinnicle of journalism. The people on that network are often paid to be provocative, to stir up controversy to stimulate their ratings by saying inflamatory things on purpose.

The good thing about this guy is that people who know truth can now see how bogus Fox is as a "news network." Hopefully, they will stop watching Fox News -- or at least stop believing the b.s. broadcast there by people who can't get jobs on legitimate news shows.

True journalism doesn't really exist anymore. Fox news isn't any worse or any better than the rest out there....just a different slant. I miss Walter. ;)

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