In my last role as a school nurse there was a girl who, at the age of 11 told her parents she wanted to be a boy. So,, the parents did what they could and got help from various doctors and experts, and over the course of the next 3 years I got to know this student well, and regardless of what I thought on the matter, was able to support this student. The student knew I had a different perspective but we had a good working relationship and this student appreciated a different perspective eg I disagreed with the hormone blockers, chest compression brace and eventual male hormones.
Anyway, during this student's time here, 2 close female friends of the student decided they were trans as well. The thing is, I believed they were not trans. I knew both of them had serious family issues, including a family divorce, and had also gone through the gambit of self harm - from cutting, eating disorders etc. But the rest of the group of girls all agreed they were trans, and encouraged this.
At about the same time this was happening, Brown university came out with a study looking into ROGD (rapid onset gender dysphoria) which showed that the vast majority of the teens and young adults coming out as trans, were not actually trans. They cited various issues, including media pressure as well as underlying, unresolved psychological issues. Unfortunately, because this study was not 'affirming' of their transition, the study was withdrawn due to media pressure.
Anyway, regardless of my thoughts, these students were sent to the pediatric psychologist, who promptly refused to see them. I knew the psychologist very and and she confided in me that it's far too dangerous a minefield and she could easily lose her licence. She said that basically, any opinion that did not affirm someone as trans risked it all. A second pediatric psychologist I knew also refused to see them.
Anyway, the school decided to go along with one of the girl's requests to be called a boy. I was not happy to do this, but did ask my manager if the girl's parents were aware we were calling their daughter a boy. My manager said 'Yes' the parents were aware.
I was not convinced I was being told the truth, and about one week after being told the parents were aware, the headmaster had a talk with us in the health center, and told us that if we have any communication with the parents, not to call their daughter a boy or use her boy name ie we were told to lie to the parents.
I was not happy to do this, and quit. And now I'm in the middle of the Australian desert having new adventures.
Agree. Honestly, I think there are more people who are bisexual than straight heterosexual or straight gay. I think sexuality is on a continuum.
Also, I'm sure my gay fiancee would be mightily disturbed if she thought my bisexuality was simply a "fad" ?
I asked earlier and no one bothered to address it.
What is the purpose of having fluid sexuality?
It definitely isn't biological!
Humans are the alpha species on the planet indisputably. I absolutely think it's because of our proclivity to variety. No other species, even our relatives, enjoy the variety of tastes re food, culture, enjoyment etc, show the level of curiosity we do.
Is it then another form of entertainment to satisfy our big brains or a social solution to the strain our needs to belong or fit in, places on us? I could be wrong but I've noticed that very few 'studs' (guys who have absolutely no problems scoring) end up being gay or other. But then literature and the anecdotes here, have individuals who knew from an early age. That rules out the entertainment theory, but does it in all cases? I wish or like to think that all women are potentially lesbians, I honestly don't know how some men are threatened by this.
Using this hypothesis, we know that some men have less testosterone and coupled with a reduced game, could that account for the ones who didn't know at an early age, becoming sexually fluid?
Specializes in Pediatrics, Pediatric Float, PICU, NICU.
7 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:
I wish or like to think that all women are potentially lesbians, I honestly don't know how some men are threatened by this.
I for one didn’t respond to your previous inquiries because of repeated comments like this which show a lack of maturity to even have a discussion on this subject. That is not meant as a dig, but if you subscribe to the mindset that any woman could potentially be lesbians but then on the flip side can’t fathom a man being gay, there’s no point in trying to have an intellectual and insightful discussion on the subject manner.
I for one didn’t respond to your previous inquiries because of repeated comments like this which show a lack of maturity to even have a discussion on this subject. That is not meant as a dig, but if you subscribe to the mindset that any woman could potentially be lesbians but then on the flip side can’t fathom a man being gay, there’s no point in trying to have an intellectual and insightful discussion on the subject manner.
You told me alright!
Sorry, but you can't legislate how I feel thankfully. Maybe if you read more of what I said instead of emotionally reacting, you would see that I believe people should do as they please without judgement by others.
My questions have to do with the movement and analytically assessing, WHY?
Is it biological or social and the percentages? Why those percentages?
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
7 hours ago, Curious1997 said:
Maybe if you read more of what I said instead of emotionally reacting, you would see that I believe people should do as they please without judgement by others.
I'm going to be kind, but frank. Your posts in this thread are really really offensive. I can't tell if you're truly this tone deaf, or if it's an act. I'm going to ask politely for you to stop.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
10 hours ago, Curious1997 said:
You told me alright!
Sorry, but you can't legislate how I feel thankfully. Maybe if you read more of what I said instead of emotionally reacting, you would see that I believe people should do as they please without judgement by others.
My questions have to do with the movement and analytically assessing, WHY?
Is it biological or social and the percentages? Why those percentages?
I am going to try to formulate a reply when I get home from work stay tuned.
So two things. Wouldn't it be incredibly intrusive and rude to ask someone about their personal stuff and also how can you possibly guage their mood to know if they would be receptive to such personal questions? I think it would alter the relationship dynamics irrevocably!
2ndly, most men incl myself aren't really designed for the feelings stuff. I acknowledge them and respect that women need to express themselves that way and am completely tolerant and very amused but then that is part of their charm. Personally, I think it's my responsibility to make a woman feel comfortable enough to express herself in any way she feels like without any restrictions whatsoever. Women and children should have complete freedom re any of their feelings. I don't know if men have that right or the biological makeup though!
I think asking questions is actually a part of respecting someone. Obviously, if you cant be tactful and polite, the friend won't feel respected, anyways.
Additionally, if you don't really care to learn the answer, you most likely won't ask the question anyway.
Honestly, if you are really these peoples friends, then asking a few questions should come pretty naturally, I would think.
Tbh, the more YOU open up with your own questions and try to learn, the less weird this whole thing will feel to you. I don't care if you SAY you arent good at feelings stuff. Obviously you are incredibly uncomfortable with your gay friends' sexual preference, and exceptional at expressing THAT.
So take another step, and ask. Just be respectful. It's not hard. Thats what this is all about. Learn THIS, and you will be happier as a rule.
I asked earlier and no one bothered to address it.
What is the purpose of having fluid sexuality?
It definitely isn't biological!
Humans are the alpha species on the planet indisputably. I absolutely think it's because of our proclivity to variety. No other species, even our relatives, enjoy the variety of tastes re food, culture, enjoyment etc, show the level of curiosity we do.
Is it then another form of entertainment to satisfy our big brains or a social solution to the strain our needs to belong or fit in, places on us? I could be wrong but I've noticed that very few 'studs' (guys who have absolutely no problems scoring) end up being gay or other. But then literature and the anecdotes here, have individuals who knew from an early age. That rules out the entertainment theory, but does it in all cases? I wish or like to think that all women are potentially lesbians, I honestly don't know how some men are threatened by this.
Using this hypothesis, we know that some men have less testosterone and coupled with a reduced game, could that account for the ones who didn't know at an early age, becoming sexually fluid?
I kinda love that you openly want to find out what causes a person to have a particular sexual preference, or fluidity.
But its also a bit cringey.
I mean, what causes people to have body dysmorphia? What causes people to want to get gold teeth? Neither are a part of our natural biology. Yet we accept it and them and provide them with equal access to health care, regardless. We don't ask them how they got to this point. Sure sometimes we study these issues especially the ones that seem self destructive, like when having body dysmorphia leads to an eating disorder and a person begins to starve themselves to death.
Thats a REAL issue. It's a HEALTH issue.
Other health issues are not biological, either. They don't serve to help the species. Breast implants do nothing for our species. But we don't get all bajiggity about it and say "Oh but how did she come to this point of adding silicone or saline to her body? Thats JUST NOT NATURAL." I mean, come ON.. get through it, already!!
Having an interest in different genders, which can be very very fluid in nature, is NOT abnormal biology, FYI.
Many species engage in homosexual sex, actually.
The estimate is CURRENTLY that at least 450 animal species are known to engage in homosexual behaviors, if just for pleasure alone. There really isn't any other reasoning for it. Homosexual sex or touching, is purely for gratification, rather than ever being for procreation. Sexuality IS fluid. It's only natural, and spans the entire living world.
Now you know. So please. Stop it with the non sequiturs and just learn to accept that nature doesnt always fit yours or Darwin's ideaological viewpoints.
Also, just the use of the term "having game" is beyond reprehensible. It is so objectifying of whatever human you seek to have sex with, and converts them, almost literally, into a form of sexual prey.
There is a HUGE difference between a human who is kind and respectful, that gets LUCKY a lot, and a man who uses a bunch of dirtbaggery to prey on those they see as merely GAME.
To me, and to many other sexual assault survivors, just the use of this kind of terminology, will cause us to immediately distrust you, and to see you as an emotionally unavailable sort that preys on people, by using mirroring techniques that serve no other purpose than to get consent for what you want (sex, not rape) and then become a ghost. It's called being an emotional predator, and its absolutely disgusting, in practice.
I mean, why even bother with consent at all, if the only goal is to falsify the entire premise upon which the sex partner IS consenting, just to ghost them anyways?
Player, please. I find this to be utterly reprehensible. It's a condition of being emotionally unavailable, and its very very hurtful. It's not a matter of protecting women at all. So stop pretending thats what youre about.
I kinda love that you openly want to find out what causes a person to have a particular sexual preference, or fluidity.
But its also a bit cringey.
* Why?
I mean, what causes people to have body dysmorphia? What causes people to want to get gold teeth? Neither are a part of our natural biology. Yet we accept it and them and provide them with equal access to health care, regardless. We don't ask them how they got to this point. Sure sometimes we study these issues especially the ones that seem self destructive, like when having body dysmorphia leads to an eating disorder and a person begins to starve themselves to death.
Thats a REAL issue. It's a HEALTH issue.
* Actually comes under a mental health issue. Are you implying that's it's a mental health problem?
Other health issues are not biological, either. They don't serve to help the species. Breast implants do nothing for our species. But we don't get all bajiggity about it and say "Oh but how did she come to this point of adding silicone or saline to her body? Thats JUST NOT NATURAL." I mean, come ON.. get through it, already!!
Having an interest in different genders, which can be very very fluid in nature, is NOT abnormal biology, FYI.
* I don't believe it's abnormal especially as it hasn't been studied enough and even so, if it makes someone happy and isn't affecting others, then go for it!
Many species engage in homosexual sex, actually.
The estimate is CURRENTLY that at least 450 animal species are known to engage in homosexual behaviors, if just for pleasure alone. There really isn't any other reasoning for it. Homosexual sex or touching, is purely for gratification, rather than ever being for procreation. Sexuality IS fluid. It's only natural, and spans the entire living world.
Now you know. So please. Stop it with the non sequiturs and just learn to accept that nature doesnt always fit yours or Darwin's ideaological viewpoints.
Also, just the use of the term "having game" is beyond reprehensible. It is so objectifying of whatever human you seek to have sex with, and converts them, almost literally, into a form of sexual prey.
There is a HUGE difference between a human who is kind and respectful, that gets LUCKY a lot, and a man who uses a bunch of dirtbaggery to prey on those they see as merely GAME.
To me, and to many other sexual assault survivors, just the use of this kind of terminology, will cause us to immediately distrust you, and to see you as an emotionally unavailable sort that preys on people, by using mirroring techniques that serve no other purpose than to get consent for what you want (sex, not rape) and then become a ghost. It's called being an emotional predator, and its absolutely disgusting, in practice.
I mean, why even bother with consent at all, if the only goal is to falsify the entire premise upon which the sex partner IS consenting, just to ghost them anyways?
Player, please. I find this to be utterly reprehensible. It's a condition of being emotionally unavailable, and its very very hurtful. It's not a matter of protecting women at all. So stop pretending thats what youre about.
* You're absolutely right, I am a bit of a player but not about sex. I haven't done a one nighter in years. I like emotional connections and I really need to like the person. But I do have some issues because I get bored quickly. I am consumed with running my businesses and everything else is a distraction.
Rant over. LOL
I get you have catalystic issues but I am actually curious as the name implies.
What about the post triggered such anger instead of possibly educating me?
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I asked earlier and no one bothered to address it.
What is the purpose of having fluid sexuality?
It definitely isn't biological!
Humans are the alpha species on the planet indisputably. I absolutely think it's because of our proclivity to variety. No other species, even our relatives, enjoy the variety of tastes re food, culture, enjoyment etc, show the level of curiosity we do.
Is it then another form of entertainment to satisfy our big brains or a social solution to the strain our needs to belong or fit in, places on us? I could be wrong but I've noticed that very few 'studs' (guys who have absolutely no problems scoring) end up being gay or other. But then literature and the anecdotes here, have individuals who knew from an early age. That rules out the entertainment theory, but does it in all cases? I wish or like to think that all women are potentially lesbians, I honestly don't know how some men are threatened by this.
Using this hypothesis, we know that some men have less testosterone and coupled with a reduced game, could that account for the ones who didn't know at an early age, becoming sexually fluid?