Some California doctors are accused of handing out and/or selling mask exemptions for back-to-school students.
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"A physician who grants a mask or other exemption without conducting an appropriate prior exam and without a finding of a legitimate medical reason supporting such an exemption within the standard of care may be subjecting their license to disciplinary action ... "
The topic of this thread is dishonest attempts to undermine school policies which serve to protect students and staff from a deadly contagion.
And you have to wonder how many people viewed this clip and thought "well, she's been an infectious disease nurse for 13 years, so she must know what she's talking about!"
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2 minutes ago, Horseshoe said:
And you have to wonder how many people viewed this clip and thought "well, she's been an infectious disease nurse for 13 years, so she must know what she's talking about!"
And that is the problem...the veneer or appearance of credibility glued to incredible claims.
I don't know your motivations and made no such implication. You are the one who made the snarky comment suggesting that you and I would be in disagreement. I asked what you meant by that and you sunk even lower.
As I suspected, I don't disagree with you. I think it is certainly part of the problem that isn't helping anything.
Balderdash. If “No, you wouldn’t” doesn’t imply some special knowledge of my motives, then I don’t know what would. But, semantic hair-splitting aside, never once in any of these threads have I seen you or any other member call out the use of religion-based rhetoric as a justification for anti-mask or anti-vaccine misinformation. Yet, as soon as someone does, you want to accuse him of being “the problem”, or at least part of it.
There is a frequent poster in the US Politics forum who routinely objects to blanket characterizations of Republicans/conservatives. At the same time, she will also criticize their behaviors that she finds hypocritical or dishonest. I respect this poster’s intellectual honesty, even though we probably disagree on most issues. But your behavior in this thread, not so much.
To misquote a cliche: “The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to remain silent.” Can’t sink much lower than that.
Balderdash. If “No, you wouldn’t” doesn’t imply some special knowledge of my motives, then I don’t know what would.
I stand corrected.
I indeed did suspect your motives in claiming that you would love to answer my question but just couldn't because doing so would be off-topic. I admit that I think you used the "off-topic" excuse, despite your participation in sometimes widely-meandering threads, because you had zero grounds to presume that I would disagree with your sensible take and therefore you should not have made the statement you did in the first place and mostly did it to make an implied unfavorable statement about my character. That's what I think. And it was wrong of you to have done so.
Though I don't always agree 100%, I do agree with the gist of many of your posts as I read them and in the past have maintained general respect for you/your contributions. So I am disappointed, that is all. I think I have good reason to reject the way you have interacted with me here.
1 hour ago, heron said:
never once in any of these threads have I seen you or any other member call out the use of religion-based rhetoric as a justification for anti-mask or anti-vaccine misinformation. Yet, as soon as someone does, you want to accuse him of being “the problem”, or at least part of it.
Understand that it was NOT the "call[ing] out of religion-based rhetoric as a justification for anti-mask or anti-vaccine misinformation" that I took issue with.
And because I said something...you are going to quote to me what it means to remain silent about things:
1 hour ago, heron said:
To misquote a cliche: “The only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to remain silent.” Can’t sink much lower than that.
You don't like what it is that I spoke up about so you are working towards associating me as some kind of enemy who is on the side of evil?
This is significantly out of bounds.
I originally responded to Horseshoe's comment because when I came across it I was taken aback. I felt it was a comment of the type that others would normally race to reject.
I have since read Horseshoe's rebuttal and clarification. I accept it, but I think sincere people should use more caution.
Not sure what it would take (truly!). But I do know we haven't even begun to reach any kind of a threshold for me to want to mask children. Case #'s don't bother me.
I get what you're saying about case numbers but schools that literally just opened are now being shut down for weeks at a time due to breakouts and required quarantine. This isn't happening in schools with mask mandates that I am aware of. If masks can keep schools open then I think we should be mandating them. Most kids tolerate them as well as their parents do if you get my drift. No kid tolerates having their routines constantly switched up. One of my co-worker's kids got to go to kindergarten for 3 entire days before the school switched to remote learning for 2 weeks. She is devastated and confused. Poor thing. And let me tell you if this child will wear a mask any child will.
If it will happen, maintaining weight will be a requirement to keep the codes intact and functional. I don't want it on my forehead or head . I hate people touching my hair.Lolz
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I'm all out of patience with the covid illiteracy that is putting people at risk.
I mentioned the other day that my grandchildren were exposed their educator father in the first week of in person school. I mentioned that the eligible 17 year old and the adults are fully vaccinated. And now they are all symptomatic and covid positive.
The unvaccinated but consistently masked 5 1/2 year old is mildly symptomatic, with intermittent low grade fever and upper respiratory congestion. The teen is (in queue for cardiac pacing secondary to congenital heart defect) and is symptomatic with fever, cough, fatigue, headache. The 39 year old father with type 1 diabetes and hypertension is sick and seeking treatment today.
The school board in this region of Alaska is following none of the CDC or AAP recommendations for school safety. They are ignorant political partisans making important decisions for ignorant reasons.
Oh, please! We have seen upwards of 10 positive Pediatric Covid cases in one morning only weeks after school started in our area and we continue to see multiple positives EVERYDAY. This is only one relatively small Pediatric practice.
I see you have multiple credentials after your name, so why not go with the science?
And a side note to the topic at hand….Can anyone tell me what medical condition other than a phobia can justify not wearing a mask?
Sure. I'm bothered. Kids are some of the toughest creatures on earth.
And they are precious to me. <-Another reason I don't want to see them masked if they don't need to be.
If they need masking or not is a matter of opinion (and perhaps even stats, though it's been awhile since I went down that road). Me and a lot of others think not.
Georgia, by itself records only 12 deaths under age 18.
And what if even ONE of those deaths could have been prevented by masking (and all other safeguards)?
And what if even ONE of those deaths could have been prevented by masking (and all other safeguards)?
As long as it doesn't happen to a child they care about it doesn't matter. Besides, all the ones who die have some underlying health condition so they don't count.
please use your sarcastic voice when reading this.
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The topic of this thread is dishonest attempts to undermine school policies which serve to protect students and staff from a deadly contagion.