Some California doctors are accused of handing out and/or selling mask exemptions for back-to-school students.
Quote"A physician who grants a mask or other exemption without conducting an appropriate prior exam and without a finding of a legitimate medical reason supporting such an exemption within the standard of care may be subjecting their license to disciplinary action ... "
Read in its entirety: Calif. Medical Board: Stop Issuing Bogus Mask Exemptions to Students
8 minutes ago, JKL33 said:Observation: Little kids seem to be exactly as bothered about this as their parents are. These kiddos are being tortured and freaked out by their parents way more than by the actual masks.
Why would they be bothered, otherwise? Little people get excited about things like getting to wear pull-ups for goodness' sake, or wearing crazy plastic shoes that light up when they walk. Make it seem like great fun, they will like it. Generally speaking they take their cues from the people they trust, whether those people are trustworthy or not.
This is readily observable.
Indeed. Most of the kindergarten aged and early elementary kids that I am related to or know are comfortable wearing masks if that is what their parents presented to them. They don't understand why other kids or adults aren't wearing masks to slow the virus. It's not that difficult to explain why it's important to wear a mask around others because it is common sense and is a demonstration of caring about others...little kids get that. It's much harder to explain why others WON'T mask in a way that they can understand.
9 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:Indeed. Most of the kindergarten aged and early elementary kids that I am related to or know are comfortable wearing masks if that is what their parents presented to them. They don't understand why other kids or adults aren't wearing masks to slow the virus. It's not that difficult to explain why it's important to wear a mask around others because it is common sense and is a demonstration of caring about others...little kids get that. It's much harder to explain why others WON'T mask in a way that they can understand.
Before Delta surged, I would sometimes go maskless, but anytime I saw masked workers in stores, I put on my mask. Why? Because someone in a forward-facing job has to interact with me, but doesn't know if I'm unmasked because I'm vaccinated or if I'm unmasked because I'm anti-mask, unvaccinated, and engage in risky behavior. My wearing a mask gives them some protection, and conveys that I care about their health. My six-year-old asked me about this, and after hearing my rather long-winded explanation, she said, "so wearing a mask is good manners." I was like, yeah, I guess that's what it boils down to: I wear a mask to help keep others safe and feel comfortable, even when there's minimal risk to me personally. It's seriously not complicated.
32 minutes ago, turtlesRcool said:Before Delta surged, I would sometimes go maskless, but anytime I saw masked workers in stores, I put on my mask. Why? Because someone in a forward-facing job has to interact with me, but doesn't know if I'm unmasked because I'm vaccinated or if I'm unmasked because I'm anti-mask, unvaccinated, and engage in risky behavior. My wearing a mask gives them some protection, and conveys that I care about their health. My six-year-old asked me about this, and after hearing my rather long-winded explanation, she said, "so wearing a mask is good manners." I was like, yeah, I guess that's what it boils down to: I wear a mask to help keep others safe and feel comfortable, even when there's minimal risk to me personally. It's seriously not complicated.
I love logical, kind people. I know most people are but I like having reminders:)
On 8/27/2021 at 4:48 PM, GordonGekko said:Give kids the choice to wear a mask or not. Their body their choice. It’s a compromise that should appease everyone in the end
Kids are not mature enough to make such a choice so this suggestion is ludicrous.
On 8/27/2021 at 4:13 PM, litepath2 said:Good Link.
Not sure what it would take (truly!). But I do know we haven't even begun to reach any kind of a threshold for me to want to mask children. Case #'s don't bother me.
If they don't they should. How until you or someone you love needs hospital care but cannot access it d/t inundation of COVID patients in the ED/ICU and other units? It most definitely should bother you.
On 8/28/2021 at 7:28 AM, GordonGekko said:99.9%+ survival rate for kids. Your analogies are absurd. What’s next? Making the kids who choose to be overweight run on a treadmill all day?
But what about the survival of those they infect?
On 8/27/2021 at 4:50 PM, GordonGekko said:Not the first person to come up with that comparison.
So are you insinuating that this makes it right?
Here in the interior of Alaska;
QuoteSchool district's inaction puts community at risk
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Yesterday
Our schools are not currently safe with the lack of Covid-19 safety measures from the Fairbanks North Star Borough School Board. I’m a doctor in Fairbanks and I want the public to know how scared my colleagues and I are about the current Covid-19 surge, and how we are trying to protect our own kids and families.
The doctors in our community are pulling their children out of district schools because of the risk of Covid-19; I can count on one hand the number of doctors I know who have unvaccinated-age kids attending their neighborhood public school this year. After months of advocating for appropriate safety policies in vain, doctors are now scrambling to try to protect our own children by enrolling in charter or magnet schools, moving to private schools, or opting for eLearning; these are luxuries most families do not have, and it should be a red flag to parents and educators about how dangerous and inadequate our current School Board policies are.
I learned yesterday that we have had four pediatric admissions to Fairbanks Memorial Hospital for Covid-19 in the past two weeks. That means we had four kids in our town sick enough with Covid-19 to require staying in the hospital. I was not involved in the care of these patients, but as a doctor I know they must have been very ill to need to be hospitalized for IVs, blood draws, supplemental oxygen, and close vital sign monitoring. As a mom, when I hear about this I picture my own daughter laying scared and sick in a hospital bed, wearing a gown, with tubes and lines running out of her arms and nose and mouth. Close your eyes and picture that is your child or grandchild. This is happening in Fairbanks now. I cannot imagine why we would risk putting any child or family through that when we have ways to prevent it.
Four kids hospitalized in two weeks is a big deal. This is not a risk we can accept in our community. I can’t imagine the outcry we would have if four children had been hospitalized due to contaminated water, or a broken stairway, or food poisoning from the cafeteria — we would demand action and expect the school board to keep our children safe.
I implore the school board to take our children’s safety seriously with strict guidelines that follow the recommendations from medical experts, including universal masking, physical distancing, vaccination for those eligible, and quarantining close contacts of symptomatic students and staff. Our community, families, and children deserve to have safe schools.
JKL33
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Observation: Little kids seem to be exactly as bothered (or not) about this as their parents are (or aren't). Some are being tortured and freaked out by their parents way more than by the actual masks.
Why would they be bothered, otherwise? Little people get excited about things like getting to wear pull-ups for goodness' sake, or wearing crazy plastic shoes that light up when they walk. Make it seem like great fun, they will like it. Generally speaking they take their cues from the people they trust, whether those people are trustworthy or not.
This is readily observable.