Manager Woes

Been there,done that, ASN, RN · Apr 27, 2021

Why would you help management? That chick has an agenda that has nothing to do with you or the patients.

Keep your head low, do your job and go home.

Sour Lemon · Apr 27, 2021

2 hours ago, JMCobbRN said:

Since I started my current job we've had 3 managers. The first two were terrible. We were so exited to get the 3rd one. She seemed invested and interested in helping us improve our department. For the first 4 months or so, she was fabulous. Then things started going down hill. Our department has suffered with the last two managers and needs a major overhaul. It would be difficult for an experienced manager, but this 3rd one is new. She's only getting worse and now most of the nursing staff hate her. I think she still has potential, but needs help, and a kick in the pants. But, I know a lot of her focus is on climbing the ladder and looking good to get the next job she wants. Is it worth it to try to help her? And how would I help her without seeming like I'm helping her?

Let's hope she doesn't come to this site, especially if that's your real picture. You might be the one who ends up getting "helped" with a kick in the pants. ?

I suspect there's someone higher up making it impossible for these managers to succeed. The fact that they've hired someone with no experience after two recent departures is a big red flag in itself.

Jedrnurse, BSN, RN · Apr 27, 2021

29 minutes ago, Been there,done that said:

Why would you help management? That chick has an agenda that has nothing to do with you or the patients.

Keep your head low, do your job and go home.

Understandable, but what the manager does often affects the job to be done, which directly affects the worker bees. Might it be in the staff nurse's best interests to selectively "help" the management? (If it means influence, that is...)

Golden_RN, MSN · Apr 27, 2021

JMCobb, You may want to change your user name to something that doesn't identify you, and remove your photo. ?

Hannahbanana, BSN, MSN · Apr 27, 2021

An organization that has three unit managers in two years has problems that are higher up than just that unit. The managers are either not competent (but maybe cheap to hire), inexperienced (ditto), unsupported (red flag) or otherwise hamstrung in their abilities to effect positive changes. Somebody is breathing down their necks, and maybe somebody higher up is doing some heavy breathing too.
Time to polish the resume and start looking around.

Agree with the advice to change your posting name and photo stat. You have no idea who could be reading this. If you’re new here and need help, ask the admins.

WriterRN, BSN · Apr 28, 2021

Thankyou for your advice! Especially about my picture and name. It's something I never even considered!

JKL33 · Apr 28, 2021

On 4/27/2021 at 8:19 AM, JMCobbRN said:

Is it worth it to try to help her?

It isn't so much a matter of helping or not helping. It's a matter of agreeing or not agreeing to expend efforts towards a project that has already been sabotaged.

What you can do is not contribute to the hate. Do your part to remain professional, take the best care of patients that you can. Be discerning in what to worry about and what not to with regard to the business and goings-on of the unit. People who foment hate and angst are not doing the right thing either.

She'll get promoted soon enough. Just hang in there. If you can't tolerate whatever is going on then look for a better atmosphere in which to work.

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Davey Do · Apr 28, 2021

A lot of positions I had held went through more than one manager. In some, I ran the gamut and sometimes made my position almost indispensable.

On the other side of the coin, in one position, I worked as a NS for medical services and the methadone clinic at a community mental health clinic in one of my last positions. I was hired by one medical director, worked with another, and trained two others.

The final medical director wanted to change several procedures that I had worked a year on to successfully tweak. This Doc had worked previously solely in research and had a parochial perspective, was limited in his knowledge and understanding, of the whole picture.

I stuck to my guns, we butted heads, and I was eventually terminated, but good riddance to that position. I got another position which paid more with less work and stayed there for 17 years.

TriciaJ, RN · Apr 28, 2021

I would "help" the manager by being a top-notch employee and maintaining a professional relationship. If you can't help things to improve, then at least you don't have to contribute to the chaos.

I agree with the previous posters that she may have arrived all dewy-eyed and is now getting her leash jerked by the upper crust. While you're riding this out, waiting for the next boon or catastrophe, start looking around at what's out there. It's always good to have a backup plan if things become suddenly intolerable.

**CommunityRNBSN, BSN, RN** · May 2, 2021

I’ve been at my current job for about two years and I am on my SIXTH nurse manager. The people in administration just make their lives a living hell. At first I was all excited that each new person was going to solve problems, but now I just say “Nice to meet you” and start counting the days until they storm out.

amoLucia · May 3, 2021

23 hours ago, CommunityRNBSN said:

..... but now I just say “Nice to meet you” and start counting the days until they storm out.

Sounds like you could start a pool and make some money on the side with your predictions! :))