Why Does It Seem That RN's Hate Us and Hospitals Don't Believe In Us??

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Im a new PN grad and have been a STNA (state tested nurse assistant) for 7 years; but as a graduate it seems that RN's are threatened by PN's or feel that we don't know anything and hospitals dont want us, at least that's been my experience with my job search here in Ohio and Ga and I don't understand why. We as PN's have to learn @least 80% of the material that a student in a ADN program learns in 11 months vs. 2 yrs, so what makes us different besides the rate of pay, which really isn't any different at least in Oh where a UNEXPERIENCED LPN makes minimally TO START 16.75 w/o differential and more for being IV and CPR certified and a UNEXPERIENCEC RN makes IN OHIO makes 17.00/hr. I don't want to come across as confrontational because that's not why Im writing. I just want to get some other points of view from LPN'S AND RN'S to help me understand.:confused:

I'm glad you found such humor in this.:rolleyes:

Just shocked, as I stated above.

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Specializes in Day Surgery/Infusion/ED.

Then why the "LMAO"?

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I Don't Know How Your Prereqs Were 2 Years-did You Take 1 Credit A Month-mine Took Me Max A Year And The Pn Programs Last 1 Year Full Time So That Does Not Equal 6 Years -it Only Takes 4 Years To Get Your Bsn For God's Sake -anyway In The Hospital Where I Work Lpns Do Everything Rns Do Except Iv Push Meds And Hang Blood And I Could Tell You Many Rns Would Rather Work With An Lpn Than Some Rns -it Does Not Matter What Realm Of Education You Have -anyone Can Be Book Smart -it Matters How Much Critical Thinking Skills You Have Not To Mention Common Sense -

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
You ladies and gents need to move to tri sate area.
I'd rather not move to the Tri-State area. I love the reasonable cost of living that Texas offers. I enjoy homeownership, no state income taxes, and other little perks that many people in the Tri-State area probably cannot afford. :D
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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
The similarities in pay might be frustrating to the Ohio RNs, too.

The RNs attended school for a lengthier amount of time and they're not earning much more than LPNs who attended school for approximately one year. If I was an RN, I'd be resentful if I started off at $17/hourly and the LPN started at $16.75/hourly.

Hopefully no one is going to chew me out or bark at me for speaking my mind. I've attempted to do so without using insulting language or creating a rift between the LVNs and RNs. Remember that I just love all nurses! :kiss

I was about to say, also, that this is a close pay difference between LPN/RN...$16.75 to $17.00...the RN only makes a quarter more an hour? Hate to say it, since I am an LPN that does not want to become an RN, but I would be pretty pissed at that, myself, if I were an RN, also. I have heard of nursing assistants (not at my facility), that get paid as much as me, and that pisses me off, so, I can say the same. The other issues can be what Commuter said...frustration at the scope of practice, but some of it can be mixed with a bit of arrogance, I'm afraid to say...

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
Just shocked, as I stated above.

It was the "LMAO!!!!" that made me feel you were laughing at us poor underpaid people outside the tri-state area. (Which is where??? LOL)

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Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

I had been limited in some areas at my hospital as an LPN, and it really didn't bother me. I think it is because some of the RNs (and I am not saying that RNs are horrible people) do look down on us, that I took the attitude of "Let her BE the RN, then" and kept it moving. In most cases, later, they realized that they could have used my help.

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I'd rather not move to the Tri-State area. I love the reasonable cost of living that Texas offers. I enjoy homeownership, no state income taxes, and other little perks that many people in the Tri-State area probably cannot afford. :D

I have to agree....I hear that nures make AMAZING money in the San Francisco area but I wonder how many of them own homes. Quality of life means A LOT and if you can live in a place where you can own a home, have a good salary, and be happy....well I think that is better!

If they are paying nurses that much in the Tri-State area how much is a "average" home?

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It has been my experience of 8 plus years that it is not a LPN vs. RN problem but rather a state to state problem. If you logically think about this paramedics can intubate, do IV push and other critical measures. However, the nurse because we all nurses are held down with what I feel is lack of continuity. There was a time that LPN's could do IV push and various other duties but now the educated push has been to limit one group of nurses. Why is this I have asked myself where the state allows paramedics to do many of the things that nurses should do with a very limited knowledge base. That is why I feel there is a such a nursing shortage. It has been my pleasure to work with many RN's who have only enhanced my knowledge base in so many ways as well as those experienced LPN's who have shared their knowledge as well. My belief has always been in nurses supporting nurses as one entity. It is only then can the LPN truely transition in the work force and enhance the quality of care. No one unit is an entity by itself. RN's learn from LPN and vice/versa, it is an ongoing exchange between two qualified persons that only serves to provide quality care.

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It has been my experience of 8 plus years that it is not a LPN vs. RN problem but rather a state to state problem. If you logically think about this paramedics can intubate, do IV push and other critical measures. However, the nurse because we all nurses are held down with what I feel is lack of continuity. There was a time that LPN's could do IV push and various other duties but now the educated push has been to limit one group of nurses. Why is this I have asked myself where the state allows paramedics to do many of the things that nurses should do with a very limited knowledge base. That is why I feel there is a such a nursing shortage. It has been my pleasure to work with many RN's who have only enhanced my knowledge base in so many ways as well as those experienced LPN's who have shared their knowledge as well. My belief has always been in nurses supporting nurses as one entity. It is only then can the LPN truely transition in the work force and enhance the quality of care. No one unit is an entity by itself. RN's learn from LPN and vice/versa, it is an ongoing exchange between two qualified persons that only serves to provide quality care.
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Specializes in ICU, PICC Nurse, Nursing Supervisor.

Im not sure why your LMAO cause Texas nurses have the ability to make this hourly range. I have no clue where the tri state area is but I am willing to bet that your cost of living is much higher than here where I am from... so it just about evens out.

OMG I can't believe that all you guys make for RN and LPN. LMAO!!!! LPN here make up to 22-32 an hr and RN can make 25-50 an hr. No way am i going to school and only make 17 an hr. CNA gets paid 18 an hr in the hosp. I am just shocked thats all. I made that amount just working from home. You ladies and gents need to move to tri sate area.
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Specializes in ER, ICU, Long Term, Skilled,.

I'm a CNA, CST, EMT-B, Certified for CPR, LPN student. I have worked in long term and hospital environments. I understand the RN's have more education, have paid more for education, makes more than LPN's, CNA's etc.. But they have more responsibilitiy on their shoulders.

A situtation I found myself in, as a CNT, EMT-B, Tech, whatever you want to call me, was that in the ER when an ambulance was brought in the Paramedics wanted to give me report. They thought that I was an RN even though they could see my name badge if they looked. I had to tell them over and over again that I could not take report, they had to wait for an RN.

I have years experience as a tech, paid attention to my fellow co-workers, was trained for DC IV, DC cardiac caths, mini-catherization, foley insertion on male and females, l know sterile techniques, etc...The way I look at is this experience will help me with nursing school and once I have those "initials" behind my name I will be paid what I'm worth. Until that time comes I am happy to assist and expand my knowledge base.

All nurses should work together for the benefit of the patient.

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