Losing my religion

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life. Nurses Spirituality Article

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life.

1. Patients do not come to a facility seeking religious conversion. So a nurse should never take advantage of the fact that patients can be fragile, they may be in the bargaining portion of their grief process, and they do not give medals for saved souls.

2. Patients in general have their own set of religious values, beliefs, circumstances therefore, do not come into a facility to be converted into a nurse's own. If you are somehow "appalled" at someone's religious traditions, know your resources, and how to contact them to assist the patient.

3. If faced with a patient that is life or death, they have stressors that the nurse can empathize with, but we really have not a clue the unique circumstance that a patient is feeling. Act ethically as a nurse, not the time to push religious agendas.

4. We are required to meet the spiritual needs of a patient. Not ourselves.

5. Patient have the right to change their mind. When faced with a life and death there are and will be patients who decide to drop their religious restrictions. It is their right to do so. Please do not try and then convince them otherwise.

6. There are multitudes of people in the facility, the community, who know a heck of a lot more about one's particular religion than perhaps the nurse does. Use them.

7. It is interesting to know and understand someone else's religious beliefs. So take note for future reference. There are multitudes of religious and variations thereof in the world, so it can only help next time if a nurse has a general idea.

8. It is a huge grey area to participate in a religious act while someone's nurse. A nurse can pray for someone privately at home if you are so inclined.

9. There are certifications for nurses to become religiously affiliated should that be your forte.

10. Be respectful, but set limits to your participation, to your thought process in religion, and always have a plan "b".

If you are not comfortable with providing certain care due to your own belief system, then what? Always have a plan of action if this is the case. Remember, you may have a patient who is not religious at all. That requires just as much respect and support as the devoutly religious.

Compassion and empathy are not exclusive to any particular religion dogma, or no religion, nor will a nurse particularly "go to Hell" if they are providing ethical care to a patient. Patients have choices, and if a prudent nurse is acting in the best interest of what a patient wants for treatment at any particular point in time, all the better for it.

Offering unsolicited religious advice is pretty much the same as forcing your views on the patient. I fail to see the distinction if you are offering information that wasn't requested and isn't wanted, or may be in direct conflict with the beliefs of the patient. Equating the fact that some people are not interested in your beliefs to religious persecution in the former Soviet Union is way over the top, IMO.

While sharing unsolicited religious advice is not appropriate at work, doing so is not forcing anything!

All people speak from their own point of view. If a person of faith, they speak from that point of view. It is possible to share wisdom or insights from a religious perspective without getting 'churchy.'

When I hear people say that sharing one's faith is 'forcing one's view', I suspect someone who probably thinks their view of the world is best and probably are not as tolerant of religious views as they try to appear.

Unsolicited non-clinical advice of any kind is usually inappropriate. What I find nefarious is the illogical notion that faith is a light switch. Is it really possible to stop being Muslim or Hindu just because you went to work? Does that mean that the Jew or the Muslim can eat pork sandwiches while they're at work? Of course not! It is literally impossible to 'step out' of one's faith-based values or beliefs based on location or context. Professionals of faith must respect the faith of others- and should expect the same in return. I find that people concerned with religious communications of co-workers tend to be antagonistic toward religious expressions. Rather than hide behind the facade of service and anti- self-service just come out and say that you don't want any religious expression at all at work because you think religion serves no useful purpose at work. Deep down, such people are anti-religion zealots who exert more energy trying to stomp out religiosity than religious people exert sharing their faith with others. Years ago, I lost a job because of such a zealot. One evening, we had a client being treated in the ER who just got word that her husband died a few minutes ago up on the unit. She was happy because her husband embraced her faith before he passed. During my rounds, entered and politely greeted she and her family. I listened as she spoke about what was happening, without saying a single word. I just smiled, nodded my head to show I was listening, being careful not to utter any words or groans that might be construed as joining in religious conversation. With joyful tears, she grabbed my hand and spoke kind words of blessing to me. She said, "You're a believer, aren't you?" I nodded yes but said no more. She responded that she got the feeling that I might be and she made positive statement about what she believed my character was like. She believed my faith showed without me saying anything. Just then, a co-worker came in as she said these words to me while holding my hand. He treated the client and gave no indication of his displeasure at this 'religious conversation.' All the while the client held my hand and spoke a blessing on me- as I stood without saying a word. Next thing I know, I'm getting FIRED for having a religious interaction with a client. I did not instigate the conversation. I did not ask questions of a religious nature. I did not SAY anything of a religious nature to ANYONE. No prayer. No reading of sacred texts. Nothing. A weeping client reached out to me and I just tried to be present- nothing more. My supervisor called me in to her office and I was terminated a day later. When I explained that I did NOTHING wrong and explained exactly what happened, how it happened, my word meant nothing. The uncontested, unsubstantiated word of an anti-religious zealot cost me my job. After that, I've learned to be leery of people preoccupied with the religious life of others. It's a zealotry often blinded by hatred or ignorance. You have been warned![/quote']

If a patient had said that to me in that moment of crisis, even though I don't share her views, I would have let her think so because that's what she needed at the time. I would have listened and done as you did. I agree that the inappropriateness works both ways. I don't see anything wrong in what happened here because, as the point of this thread says, your care in that moment was patient-led, patient-centered. You weren't pushing your own views, you were instead respecting the patient and hers.

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The primary thing the world wants of us Christians is our silence.

The primary thing the world wants of us Christians is our silence.

And in one's own world on their own time, practice Christianity should you choose to.

However, in taking care of patients, what a patient may want of their Christian nurse is to respect and honor their wishes regarding spiritual needs.

One can be a compassionate, insightful, present nurse without having to have their own religious views come into the equation.

But the point isn't for the hospice to be exclusively for Christians, but to win people who aren't Christians to Christ before they pass on into eternity.

WOW. Do they at least make this abundantly clear to the public before they sign up for hospice services, that they are signing up to be converted??

I take my religious beliefs seriously and I'm a Buddhist. I think that a nurse assuming that their religion is the one and only for me and my family is not only rude and condescending I think it's overstepping all kinds of medical boundries and would be very upset if one took it upon themself to use their doctrine to one of my ill family members. One of the nurses that I worked with asked a patient could she pray for him and I think she was out of line. If a patient ask you that's a different story otherwise just do your job to the best of our ability.

I take my religious beliefs seriously and I'm a Buddhist. I think that a nurse assuming that their religion is the one and only for me and my family is not only rude and condescending I think it's overstepping all kinds of medical boundries and would be very upset if one took it upon themself to use their doctrine to one of my ill family members. One of the nurses that I worked with asked a patient could she pray for him and I think she was out of line. If a patient ask you that's a different story otherwise just do your job to the best of our ability.

Which, by the way, I think the Buddist religion is one of the most beautiful!! I may not believe 100% of what you believe, but I do really like the peaceful calmness of the relgion in general.

I think any nurse can help someone fufill their own religious objectives without praying for them or attempting to Jesus-fy the entire unit.

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Which, by the way, I think the Buddist religion is one of the most beautiful!! I may not believe 100% of what you believe, but I do really like the peaceful calmness of the relgion in general.

I think any nurse can help someone fufill their own religious objectives without praying for them or attempting to Jesus-fy the entire unit.

Your point is taken but to say Jesus-fy can be offensive to believers.

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And in one's own world on their own time, practice Christianity should you choose to.

However, in taking care of patients, what a patient may want of their Christian nurse is to respect and honor their wishes regarding spiritual needs.

One can be a compassionate, insightful, present nurse without having to have their own religious views come into the equation.

One can also be compassionate, insightful, present nurse by having their own religious views come into the equation. Life is not a black and white proposition, critical thinking as to interpersonal relations ie: wisdom, is important. Whether you are a believer or not, most world views leave room for different beliefs. Patients and nurses all have different beliefs, sometimes when their beliefs mesh; it's a beautiful thing!

Your point is taken but to say Jesus-fy can be offensive to believers.

No offense meant, just that there is alternate religious beliefs than Jesus.

Specializes in critcal care, CRNA.

No offense meant, just that there is alternate religious beliefs than Jesus.

You were quoting someone talking about Buddhism and then took a crack at Jesus. Why not any other religious figures there? Amazing that even nonbelievers find power in the name Jesus, even if it is to insult or offend.

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I feel certain that Jesus can handle the vagaries of conversation, with it's shorthand and euphemisms. He knows what is in our hearts so we don't need to get offended on His behalf.