Losing my religion

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life. Nurses Spirituality Article

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life.

1. Patients do not come to a facility seeking religious conversion. So a nurse should never take advantage of the fact that patients can be fragile, they may be in the bargaining portion of their grief process, and they do not give medals for saved souls.

2. Patients in general have their own set of religious values, beliefs, circumstances therefore, do not come into a facility to be converted into a nurse's own. If you are somehow "appalled" at someone's religious traditions, know your resources, and how to contact them to assist the patient.

3. If faced with a patient that is life or death, they have stressors that the nurse can empathize with, but we really have not a clue the unique circumstance that a patient is feeling. Act ethically as a nurse, not the time to push religious agendas.

4. We are required to meet the spiritual needs of a patient. Not ourselves.

5. Patient have the right to change their mind. When faced with a life and death there are and will be patients who decide to drop their religious restrictions. It is their right to do so. Please do not try and then convince them otherwise.

6. There are multitudes of people in the facility, the community, who know a heck of a lot more about one's particular religion than perhaps the nurse does. Use them.

7. It is interesting to know and understand someone else's religious beliefs. So take note for future reference. There are multitudes of religious and variations thereof in the world, so it can only help next time if a nurse has a general idea.

8. It is a huge grey area to participate in a religious act while someone's nurse. A nurse can pray for someone privately at home if you are so inclined.

9. There are certifications for nurses to become religiously affiliated should that be your forte.

10. Be respectful, but set limits to your participation, to your thought process in religion, and always have a plan "b".

If you are not comfortable with providing certain care due to your own belief system, then what? Always have a plan of action if this is the case. Remember, you may have a patient who is not religious at all. That requires just as much respect and support as the devoutly religious.

Compassion and empathy are not exclusive to any particular religion dogma, or no religion, nor will a nurse particularly "go to Hell" if they are providing ethical care to a patient. Patients have choices, and if a prudent nurse is acting in the best interest of what a patient wants for treatment at any particular point in time, all the better for it.

I'm a Bible-believing Christian myself, but I believe that all religions have at least some truth and validity to them.

Do you believe the Bible where Jesus says He is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no man comes to the Father but by Him? (John 14:6)

Or where it says (referring to Jesus) neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved? (Acts 4:12)

Do you believe the Bible where Jesus says He is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no man comes to the Father but by Him? (John 14:6)

Or where it says (referring to Jesus) neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved? (Acts 4:12)

Yes I do. I also believe this:

(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Romans 2:14-16

We are called not to judge others - we do not know the condition of other men relative to God - we can never know this. On that last day when we are all standing before God, there will be many surprises in store for many people.

As I stated all religions have some element of truth to them. There is no inconsistency in saying that and believing what I believe. None. Do not try to read more or less into that statement of mine that you quoted, than is there.

I am not trying to read something that isn't there. I'm just trying to figure out whether or not you believe Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation.

If so, I am not understanding your point in saying that all religions have some truth and validity to them. Either Jesus is the way or He isn't.

(And to tie that to this thread, that has great implications in how pressing we see other people's need to be saved/ how great a responsibilty we feel to be open about our faith).

we do not know the condition of other men relative to God - we can never know.

Yes we can. Those without Jesus Christ are without God. The Bible is explicitly clear about that.

Yes we can. Those without Jesus Christ are without God. The Bible is explicitly clear about that.

You personally cannot know the inner condition of a man's soul relative to God. Only God knows that. That's why we are called not to judge another person. To suggest otherwise is actually blasphemy. Talk to your pastor/priest about it, if you don't buy it. You are claiming to know what only God can know. Stop and think about it.

I am done here. Say what you want further if you think having the last word makes you correct. It doesn't. I'm outta here.

I am done here. Say what you want further if you think having the last word makes you correct. It doesn't. I'm outta here.

Ok. ???

I have a question...

What do you all think about a Christian nurse working for a privately owned and openly (and unapologetically) Christian hospice?

Is it wrong to witness to these patients (who had multiple choices of a hospice but chose the openly Chrisitan one )?

What about missionary nurses?

I have a question...

What do you all think about a Christian nurse working for a privately owned and openly (and unapologetically) Christian hospice?

Is it wrong to witness to these patients (who had multiple choices of a hospice but chose the openly Chrisitan one )?

What about missionary nurses?

If one chooses end of life care at a privately owned Christian based hospice, I would follow whatever policies are in place as far as having a patient's spiritual needs met. Like any other facility. The goal of hospice is peaceful. Patients have the lead with a nurse's support on settling into a peace that allows anyone to pass with dignity. I am not sure witnessing is ideal when someone is actively dying, but it is what the patient needs, not what the nurse needs.

If one is a missionary nurse, then they are choosing to be a nurse in perhaps an undeserving area that is sorely lacking nurses. The goal of missionary work is to be able to feel a song in one's own heart for the work that they do. There are multiple religions who have missonary work as part of their fellowship and congregation. The work should speak for itself. But if a nurse is going to an area that is strictly one religion in an attempt to convert people--that is not the spirit in which one would choose to work for others.

Nursing care should be patient led as far as spiritual need in my opinion. A nurse can have a tremendous respect for a religion that they do not practice. And a tremedous respect for patient's who have the strength to get through an illness on their own fortitude. Spirituality/religious beliefs are patient led circumstances in any venue.

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I have a question... What do you all think about a Christian nurse working for a privately owned and openly (and unapologetically) Christian hospice? Is it wrong to witness to these patients (who had multiple choices of a hospice but chose the openly Chrisitan one )? What about missionary nurses?

Interesting question! Is this private pay hospice? If there is no Medicare reimbursement whatsoever, then that hospice can choose to be exclusively for Christians. Dying in that kind of environment would be hell to me, a Jew (if it existed, of course). Worst nightmare type of scene ;)

If the place gets any public money for their service, then sorry, but they can't impose their Christian views on patients. They can be an organization with Christian values as a mission statement, but they can't discriminate and should remain neutral when it comes to religion in patient care.

I've worked at Jewish organizations with values that reflect that mission, but religion was never a piece of patient care. Staff was from all kinds of backgrounds and our chaplains were interfaith and wonderful to all patients. We did have special items for orthodox patients who require strict kosher food for example, so they felt comfortable receiving care there, but it was more of a cultural accommodation. We made sure our Asian patients received culturally competent care too, and everyone else!

There was no distinction and that is the point here.

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My "religion" is who I am and will always permeate my being whether I am at my place of work or not. I pray on my way to work for the wisdom and compassion to be the nurse He wants me to be. I pray for my patients, I pray before procedures, I pray when I am trying to critically think, and I pray for my coworkers. I don't walk into rooms and announce I am a Christian and that they should be too. I don't know a single solitary Christian nurse who does. I pray that if the Lord wants me to talk to someone, HE will bring them to my attention, HE will provide an opening, not me. I wear a Cross around my neck so people will know where I stand and often because of it THEY will bring up the subject of faith. I also wear the cross to remind myself who I represent and keep myself accountable and so that when I walk out of a room where I have made someone feel better by my nursing interventions, given will a warm smile and gentle touch, they will hopefully remember my cross, and know that a bit of Jesus helped them to heal.

Specializes in ICU, PACU, OR.

Your personal religious views may assist in your passion and zeal for providing nursing care that is compassionate and loving. There is no room for proselytizing or touting your personal beliefs. Spirituality and religion are two separate issues and should not be confused. The key to nursing care is to use skills to enable the patient to find their strengths and build on them to return to a better state of health. Tap into the patient's beliefs and strengths rather than your own. There are spiritual gifts that transcend all religions and every human can appreciate any or all of them.

Specializes in Emergency Department.

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