Losing my religion

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life. Nurses Spirituality Article

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life.

1. Patients do not come to a facility seeking religious conversion. So a nurse should never take advantage of the fact that patients can be fragile, they may be in the bargaining portion of their grief process, and they do not give medals for saved souls.

2. Patients in general have their own set of religious values, beliefs, circumstances therefore, do not come into a facility to be converted into a nurse's own. If you are somehow "appalled" at someone's religious traditions, know your resources, and how to contact them to assist the patient.

3. If faced with a patient that is life or death, they have stressors that the nurse can empathize with, but we really have not a clue the unique circumstance that a patient is feeling. Act ethically as a nurse, not the time to push religious agendas.

4. We are required to meet the spiritual needs of a patient. Not ourselves.

5. Patient have the right to change their mind. When faced with a life and death there are and will be patients who decide to drop their religious restrictions. It is their right to do so. Please do not try and then convince them otherwise.

6. There are multitudes of people in the facility, the community, who know a heck of a lot more about one's particular religion than perhaps the nurse does. Use them.

7. It is interesting to know and understand someone else's religious beliefs. So take note for future reference. There are multitudes of religious and variations thereof in the world, so it can only help next time if a nurse has a general idea.

8. It is a huge grey area to participate in a religious act while someone's nurse. A nurse can pray for someone privately at home if you are so inclined.

9. There are certifications for nurses to become religiously affiliated should that be your forte.

10. Be respectful, but set limits to your participation, to your thought process in religion, and always have a plan "b".

If you are not comfortable with providing certain care due to your own belief system, then what? Always have a plan of action if this is the case. Remember, you may have a patient who is not religious at all. That requires just as much respect and support as the devoutly religious.

Compassion and empathy are not exclusive to any particular religion dogma, or no religion, nor will a nurse particularly "go to Hell" if they are providing ethical care to a patient. Patients have choices, and if a prudent nurse is acting in the best interest of what a patient wants for treatment at any particular point in time, all the better for it.

I feel certain that Jesus can handle the vagaries of conversation with it's shorthand and euphemisms. He knows what is in our hearts so we don't need to get offended on His behalf.[/quote']

It is not a matter of what Jesus can handle. It is a matter of respect and reverence.

WOW. Do they at least make this abundantly clear to the public before they sign up for hospice services, that they are signing up to be converted??

I'm not exactly sure how it works. I just know what I have read on the website.

Personally, I think it is wonderful, and if I ever get to do hospice (which is my ultimate goal), that is the company I want to work for.. one that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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It is not a matter of what Jesus can handle. It is a matter of respect and reverence.

Respect and reverence for who?

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For those who asked, here is the reference to the prayer study, note it is American and please read the conclusion.

Elsevier

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So......what does that prove?

I usually don't post in these threads, but here I go anyway...

I haven't read the entire study because it will cost about $32 that I don't have right now, but from what I can access, it indicates that intercessory prayer is associated with higher incidence of complications from the surgery. However, this is one study. If there are more studies about prayer and health outcomes out there, I'd like to read them. The study was also done at six different hospitals. I think it's fair to say that there are far too many variables involved with all the patients' post-op care to imply that intercessory prayer makes things worse. Perhaps if I had access (or if someone with access could relay the info) to the whole study, we'd have a better idea of how the study was set up.

Whether or not you believe in God or another deity, we all know that positive attitude can have a great effect on one's ability to get through a difficult situation. Thinking "positive thoughts", as it were. Prayer, while also having religious meaning, is also a type of positive thinking, is it not?

EDIT: I am reasponding to the person speaking about prayer having a negative effect, not advocating for active unsolicited praying.

Whether or not you believe in God or another deity, we all know that positive attitude can have a great effect on one's ability to get through a difficult situation. Thinking "positive thoughts", as it were. Prayer, while also having religious meaning, is also a type of positive thinking, is it not?

That may be true, however, it is up to the patient should they want to "think positive thoughts" or pray, or practice whatever spiritual or non-spiritual things they would like to. The nurse can certainly think positive, pray, whatever they would like to, but in private. It is not the time nor the place to reflect on ones own religious beliefs when caring for a patient who may have a completely different view than the nurse's own.

That may be true however, it is up to the patient should they want to "think positive thoughts" or pray, or practice whatever spiritual or non-spiritual things they would like to. The nurse can certainly think positive, pray, whatever they would like to, but in private. It is not the time nor the place to reflect on ones own religious beliefs when caring for a patient who may have a completely different view than the nurse's own.[/quote']

Oh I completely agree! I should have clarified that I was responding to the poster who claimed people who were prayed for did worse. I don't believe the nurses should actively pray for people who don't ask (essentially I am agreeing with the OP).

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Prayer, while also having religious meaning, is also a type of positive thinking, is it not?

We are not talking about positive thoughts though, we are talking about 'prayer' as in asking for something or hoping that something hears them.

Specializes in Emergency Department.
So......what does that prove?

What does what prove?

I have given you a reference to a study - take it or leave it.

We are not talking about positive thoughts though we are talking about 'prayer' as in asking for something or hoping that something hears them.[/quote']

Yeah, I understand that. Thanks, captain.