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My hospital is broke. BROKE. To the point where we're the lowest paid nurses in the area. We can't close cause we're a 260 bed county hospital and the only one around for miles who accepts trauma.

So here's the deal. Our broke-ness has led to a mass exodus of all the "good" nurses- the young, promising, bright nurses who are motivated and enthusiastic. Now the only thing left are the hardened mean old battle axes, the "I have no motivation to go anywhere else so I'll stay here and be miserable and make everyone else miserable" ones and the dumb ones. The morale and team environment on my floor sucks.

I knew this going in from my clinicals there, and still accepted the job because being a New Grad left me with zero options. I felt I had to jump on the first train leaving the station even though it was a broke down rusty old mess. But I had *no idea* how miserable it would make me.

I posted about my preceptor in another thread, so I won't go into detail here about it other than to say that she was horrible, awful, no good and very bad. She sets the tone for all the other nurses I work with: no comeraderie with anyone, wary of "outsiders" and generally unhelpful and mean. Two have stood out as being really awesome, but one of them is currently got her BSN and a year experience so she's being wooed by other places and won't be long until she's gone.

I was lied to when I got hired, saying I'd get cross trained to ICU and ER. Found out that will never happen, the unit supervisor just told me it would happen to get warm bodies in on the floor-- part of the reason we're broke is because of the mass exodus we're having to staff with agency nurses. I was told that during my orientation on days I'd spend at least 3 days in ICU. On my last day of days I asked my floor assistant supervisor (the unit sup is nowhere to be seen, ever) when I would be going over, and I got accused of overstepping my boundaries and then was asked if I really wanted to be there since I was already shopping around for another job. *****?

Our brokeness has led to dirty units. I mean just *dirty* and gross. No staff, no aides, no support. Many times we've had nurses with 5 patients or had the charge carry 4 patients plus act as resource for the LVN plus help a student nurse. Our patients, 9 times out of 10 are on contact isolation from MRSA and VRE cause we care for every indigent IV drug user in the county it seems (it's wintertime, afterall)-- not that I have an issue with that because I think they need care just as much as other people. But can I tell you how many times patients with regular insurance will be admitted from ER post trauma or whatever and the family will insist on having them transferred because "We have insurance, we don't need to be here. The care here is atrocious."

Because of our brokeness, what used to be the ICU step down unit (my unit, aka the Progressive Care Unit) is now just med-surg with tele. They don't want to pay us for being a PCU unit but we still get vented patients, heparin drip patients, dobutamine drip patients, etc. All of the things you'd expect from a PCU unit. So they left the floor the same but just renamed it so they could justify paying us less. So no raises in the past 2 years. None forseen either.

I am smart, motivated, assertive. I ask good questions with very strong rationales, I am intelligent and friendly. This has made me marked with a scarlet A-- they call me aggrressive, a loudmouth, tell me I butt in too much and that I'm trying too hard to fit in. So when I interrupt a conversation about where Nurse X bought her knockoff coach purse to get help because I've never hung blood before or I have a question about why a certain drug was ordered or need help starting an IV, I'm a buttinsky. I get eyerolls, heave sighs. They think I ought to know all of this by now, they think I should be able to handle 4 patients, nevermind that I've never had a vent patient before, nevemind that nursing school left me sorely lacking for experience with jevity feeds or hanging blood (not allowed to do them) and didn't prepare me for all the administrative duties of a floor. But they think I ought to know this by now. And I'm afraid that when I fail miserably on my first day on my own that I'll be ostracized even further because I can't handle it.

Any words of encouragement? I like many others plan to get my year experience and head for the hills because I don't see this getting any better. But to make the next year go by smoothly I am either going to need some serious antidepressants or a crapload of bourbon, or both (haha).

Sorry so long but I needed to vent to people who understand where I'm coming from. My husband god love him is a saint but he doesn't get it.

Thanks guys :)

So when I interrupt a conversation about where Nurse X bought her knockoff coach purse to get help because I've never hung blood before or I have a question about why a certain drug was ordered or need help starting an IV, I'm a buttinsky. I get eyerolls, heave sighs.

I can relate to your post as a whole, but this particularly struck me. I was on my orientation and the same thing happened to me. I would stand patiently for a couple of minutes listening to the personal conversations, and then would politely say, "excuse me", and ask my question. How frustrating! And I was labeled impatient and demanding.

I really like the advice given by canesdukegirl - read that a couple times - and best of luck to you!

Specializes in Med-surg, Ed, Trauma, ICA, LTC.

Wow! I have a few thoughts after reading your post. Really more questions. LOL.

First, I always say, "You worked too hard for your license to let anyone, nurse, manager, patient or family keep you from enjoying being a nurse." Nursing is a truly honorable profession you chose to serve in. Find people you enjoy then seek refuge and encouragement there. Network!!

Second, the first few months to one year as a new grad is very difficult. It will pass just as school did. Take each day one at a time. If you haven't killed anyone by now you are probably going to do fine. Sometimes just stepping into the bathroom for a fresh mantra or two helps. Many of us have been there.

Next, be patient with those other nurses since it sounds like they have been beaten up pretty bad. They may be dedicated and committed rather than stuck. Offer to help when you can and be a team player. They have survived nursing and have a lot of experience and knowledge. Don't patronize but genuinely believe that they have a lot to offer.

Plus, enjoy your patients. They are why you are there. The nurse can make a patients day! You make a difference every day you go to work. What more could you want. With a lot of experience I honestly resigned a charge position because patients make my day!! Really. As a charge I dealt more with nurses and just couldn't get that warm and fuzzie I needed to go home happy (freaking exhausted and brain dead, but satisfied, LOL).

Caution, you really have some negative posts. Examine your soul and see if you are bringing some high and lofty goals for others to meet. It is not uncommon and can develop like a cancer in a new grad. Expect the minimum from others and you can usually get that met and exceeded. My mantra going to work after many years is, "Let 2 patients appreciate what I do today." I can usually meet that need in a Level 1 trauma center. After those 2 it is all extra. Just remember to be patient with us older nurses.

Back to the first, no one should make you dislike nursing. You have worked too hard and paid to dearly for that license. If the position you are in doesn't get better after a while you can move on. But don't job hop. It is so common for new grads to leave the first position and find it little different at the next one. Get resume fodder while you are there. Join a committee and go to a couple conferences this year (many are free or less than $50). Network!!!

Good luck!!!!

I'm sure that there must be at least one nice experienced nurse.So are you saying that only young and pretty nurses deserve to work.Honey,you know what is the average age of a nurse-47 years yup:) I read somwhere that the most common age of a nursing student is 29 years. BTW,I'm not an old nurse:)But seriously you need to respect more experienced nurses,dont hate,blame the economy.

I am not a nurse yet, I am a student, so I am not claiming to be an expert but I have some thoughts.

-If you know what patients you will have for the following day or week, try and make a schedule of everything that has to be done. During that time if you have need more information on a condition or procedure you can research it. You can never know too much and no one can take your education away from you! Ask yourself "why" is this person on this diet or this med or whatever and dig deeper than what is expected, it will help later on when you take on more responsibility.

-Be at your shift early and set goals. Ex: by this time I will have bathed my pts and given meds... If you get the time consuming stuff out of the way early, you wont be overwelmed if you need to do a procedure your still mastering.

- If you have a question, try to look it up on your own first! If these nurses have been doing this forever, think about how many students they have trained. If you are unsure that you found the right answer when you do your research, double check. Its much easier to ask is "am I on the right track" as opposed to "what am I supposed to do" (not saying you do that, but I've trained people that do that in another field and its quite annoying)

- Remember you are not there to make friends, you are there to work, get experience, a be an amazing nurse! Do your job and don't take it personally if a couple nurses dont love you at first, they sound miserable. My Aunt is a nurse and she said there is always gonna be some mean old nurses, and advised me not to look happy around them as it will **** them off more. lol

- It sounds like some have bad habits, like cleanliness? Take pride in your patients and if you can take the extra steps to ensure the best possible care. Don't let bad habits from others sink in! Think of how you would want your mom to be treated in a hospital, and treat everyone like that.

- Keep looking for another job but make the best of where your at, its all a learning experience. When you do find somewhere better DO NOT badmouth! Canesdukegirl sounds like she got lucky. You can say I am passionate about this specialty and ICU has been a main intrest of study because..., I admire your hospital policies... When I have had to interview after a bad job I would stress what I am looking for: professionalism from staff, strict cleanliness protocols, opportunity for CEU's... You can demand a little during an interview and it looks awesome, if your talking about how much you strive for patient safety! (plus a good interviewer will pick up that maybe your last employer had some issues with pt safety, if you stress pt safety, and will appreciate a crafty choice of wording without putting anyone down). You never wanna burn bridges, trust me I have made that mistake! But don't worry too much, legally they cannot bad mouth you to a new employer.

Good luck and congrats on being a nurse and be grateful you have a job right now!!!! I hope this helps!!!!

Specializes in Med-Surg.

LOL of course not, are you kidding?

I'm saying that regardless of whether you've been a nurse for 1 year or 100 years you at one time were a student who was scared, unsure, untested, confused, overwhelmed. Nurses did not spring fully formed from the head of a God like Athena. There was a certain period of adjustment. So why on earth would anyone take umbrage to a new grad orientee not knowing anything? And going so far as to have serious attitude problems about it?

I said that there have been a few that are awesome. Out of my 5 preceptors (I had originally incorrectly said 4) three of them have been amazing and nice. But the two I had that were bad were very, very bad. And the one I'm so upset about was so egregiously awful that I'm appalled she's even in the profession despite being a really good nurse.

And the point I was trying to make was the mismanagement of my facility leading it to its brokeness has left only the dregs of nursing, it seems. Nearly everyone who is motivated and cheerful and still unencumbered by cynicism and jadedness has left-- I know this because I precepted there 3 times for N4, N7 and N9. Several awesome people who were there just as recently as March of this year are no longer there-- they've left for Sutter, Kaiser, UC Davis. Hospitals higher up on the heirarchy of "good places to work." Those that are left are seemingly only marking time until retirement, or live in the area and don't want to drive a commute to another facility (mine is the only one around, one other is about 40 minutes to the north and one other is about 30 minutes to the south). Some I haven't the faintest idea why they're still there, maybe they've grown accustomed to working within the system. But for sure the amount of complaining they do about our facility leaves me wondering why many of them are still there.

I am thankful that I even have a job, but that doesn't preclude me from venting about several issues I see and the injustices I feel I am exposed to every day I've been there.

I'm hopeful it will get better but right now it sure doesn't seem like it.

In my nightmare job, I was "guaranteed" 8 weeks orientation for a 50+ bed ER. However, I only had 2 weeks. They felt because I had ICU experience--mind you, a 7 bed small community hospital ICU--that I was "fine". It was hell, I hated it. I felt like you do--that no one was available to help me except a minimal few, and if I asked for help, I was met with sighs, eye rolling, etc. It was a horrible experience, and when I quit, I felt such a relief that it is indescribable. I only lasted 3 months before I gave it the ol' heave ho. The manager said to me, "You know this won't look good on your resume" and my reply was, "I would never list this place on my resume, ever". I never did list it, either.

Not that my advice is good advice, LOL, but I have totally been there. I felt as if my license were on the line--and nothing was worth that. I worked too hard for it.

I agree there are some awful and rude people out there. There are always one or two bad apples. Its not right, but you just have to learn to cope. Put yourself in their shoes, you have been there 8 days and hate it, they have been there like 30 yrs! You said one was mean but a really good nurse, you may learn from her?!?!? You WILL find a better job! Just pay your dues, this is not forever!!

Specializes in Trauma Surgery, Nursing Management.
i am not a nurse yet, i am a student, so i am not claiming to be an expert but i have some thoughts.

-if you know what patients you will have for the following day or week, try and make a schedule of everything that has to be done. during that time if you have need more information on a condition or procedure you can research it. you can never know too much and no one can take your education away from you! ask yourself "why" is this person on this diet or this med or whatever and dig deeper than what is expected, it will help later on when you take on more responsibility.

while this is a nice thought, the reality is that you don't know what your assignment will be until you get on the unit. there is very little time to research a condition when you have a mountain of tasks to do, and i think that is part of the reason the op is frustrated. but i like where your mind is, tretinoin.

-be at your shift early and set goals. ex: by this time i will have bathed my pts and given meds... if you get the time consuming stuff out of the way early, you wont be overwelmed if you need to do a procedure your still mastering.

this is also something that i wish we could do. unfortunately, time constraints are part of the budget for the unit. nurses cannot clock in early, and cannot perform duties without clocking in due to liability issues. i think the message you are getting across is that tedious, time consuming tasks should be taken care of first. i agree with that. if you have 3 patients who need to be prepped for surgery at 0700, or you have to hang iv abx by 0800, the baths and the assisted walking, for example, have to take a back seat or be delegated to nas.

- if you have a question, try to look it up on your own first! if these nurses have been doing this forever, think about how many students they have trained. if you are unsure that you found the right answer when you do your research, double check. its much easier to ask is "am i on the right track" as opposed to "what am i supposed to do" (not saying you do that, but i've trained people that do that in another field and its quite annoying)

i agree that all nurses should be proactive in their learning. however, as stated before, there is often little time to do this. we must utilize our resource people in the unit we work in. the op seems like she has a limited cache of resource people to depend on. for example, if she has to start an iv or hang blood for a pt, and has not been "checked off" in her competency skills for these procedures, she is absolutely running the risk of compromising patient safety. none of that is her fault-she is getting horrible guidance. can you imagine what would happen if she was ordered to start an iv, had never done so before and the end result was infiltration that led to cellulitis? this very scenario happened at one of the local hospitals here and as a result, the hospital was sued.

- remember you are not there to make friends, you are there to work, get experience, a be an amazing nurse! do your job and don't take it personally if a couple nurses dont love you at first, they sound miserable. my aunt is a nurse and she said there is always gonna be some mean old nurses, and advised me not to look happy around them as it will **** them off more. lol

totally agree here!

- it sounds like some have bad habits, like cleanliness? take pride in your patients and if you can take the extra steps to ensure the best possible care. don't let bad habits from others sink in! think of how you would want your mom to be treated in a hospital, and treat everyone like that.

i think that the op wants to do all of the above. i don't doubt for a second that she is appalled at the conditions she must work in. i have every confidence that she treats her patients well, which is why she is reaching out to us now for advice and opinions. it is difficult to do extra work like major housekeeping when you must complete med passes, treatments, wound changes, teaching, and charting in a timely manner.

- keep looking for another job but make the best of where your at, its all a learning experience. when you do find somewhere better do not badmouth! canesdukegirl sounds like she got lucky. you can say i am passionate about this specialty and icu has been a main intrest of study because..., i admire your hospital policies... when i have had to interview after a bad job i would stress what i am looking for: professionalism from staff, strict cleanliness protocols, opportunity for ceu's... you can demand a little during an interview and it looks awesome, if your talking about how much you strive for patient safety! (plus a good interviewer will pick up that maybe your last employer had some issues with pt safety, if you stress pt safety, and will appreciate a crafty choice of wording without putting anyone down). you never wanna burn bridges, trust me i have made that mistake! but don't worry too much, legally they cannot bad mouth you to a new employer.

i did get lucky. but i was also fiercely vigilant about seeking other jobs. i mean i was on the internet every minute of my free time searching. i was terrified of losing my license because patient safety was being compromised to the nth degree. for example, a nurse was scrubbed in and was wearing glasses. her glasses slipped off and fell into the surgical wound. another example was a doc who went ahead with elective surgery when the pt's k+ was 6.1. another example was a nurse who gave heparin iv pre-op. yes, iv!!! patients are often an afterthought when a hospital such as the op's is in such financial straits. that is just a horrible state of affairs.

good luck and congrats on being a nurse and be grateful you have a job right now!!!! i hope this helps!!!!

i think the op is genuinely and justifiably frustrated. we have all been there. the best we can do is deliver safe patient care. however if the op feels that patient safety is at risk, then there is a great deal to be worried about.

My hospital is broke. BROKE. To the point where we're the lowest paid nurses in the area. We can't close cause we're a 260 bed county hospital and the only one around for miles who accepts trauma.

So here's the deal. Our broke-ness has led to a mass exodus of all the "good" nurses- the young, promising, bright nurses who are motivated and enthusiastic. Now the only thing left are the hardened mean old battle axes, the "I have no motivation to go anywhere else so I'll stay here and be miserable and make everyone else miserable" ones and the dumb ones. The morale and team environment on my floor sucks.

I knew this going in from my clinicals there, and still accepted the job because being a New Grad left me with zero options. I felt I had to jump on the first train leaving the station even though it was a broke down rusty old mess. But I had *no idea* how miserable it would make me.

I posted about my preceptor in another thread, so I won't go into detail here about it other than to say that she was horrible, awful, no good and very bad. She sets the tone for all the other nurses I work with: no comeraderie with anyone, wary of "outsiders" and generally unhelpful and mean. Two have stood out as being really awesome, but one of them is currently got her BSN and a year experience so she's being wooed by other places and won't be long until she's gone.

I was lied to when I got hired, saying I'd get cross trained to ICU and ER. Found out that will never happen, the unit supervisor just told me it would happen to get warm bodies in on the floor-- part of the reason we're broke is because of the mass exodus we're having to staff with agency nurses. I was told that during my orientation on days I'd spend at least 3 days in ICU. On my last day of days I asked my floor assistant supervisor (the unit sup is nowhere to be seen, ever) when I would be going over, and I got accused of overstepping my boundaries and then was asked if I really wanted to be there since I was already shopping around for another job. *****?

Our brokeness has led to dirty units. I mean just *dirty* and gross. No staff, no aides, no support. Many times we've had nurses with 5 patients or had the charge carry 4 patients plus act as resource for the LVN plus help a student nurse. Our patients, 9 times out of 10 are on contact isolation from MRSA and VRE cause we care for every indigent IV drug user in the county it seems (it's wintertime, afterall)-- not that I have an issue with that because I think they need care just as much as other people. But can I tell you how many times patients with regular insurance will be admitted from ER post trauma or whatever and the family will insist on having them transferred because "We have insurance, we don't need to be here. The care here is atrocious."

Because of our brokeness, what used to be the ICU step down unit (my unit, aka the Progressive Care Unit) is now just med-surg with tele. They don't want to pay us for being a PCU unit but we still get vented patients, heparin drip patients, dobutamine drip patients, etc. All of the things you'd expect from a PCU unit. So they left the floor the same but just renamed it so they could justify paying us less. So no raises in the past 2 years. None forseen either.

I am smart, motivated, assertive. I ask good questions with very strong rationales, I am intelligent and friendly. This has made me marked with a scarlet A-- they call me aggrressive, a loudmouth, tell me I butt in too much and that I'm trying too hard to fit in. So when I interrupt a conversation about where Nurse X bought her knockoff coach purse to get help because I've never hung blood before or I have a question about why a certain drug was ordered or need help starting an IV, I'm a buttinsky. I get eyerolls, heave sighs. They think I ought to know all of this by now, they think I should be able to handle 4 patients, nevermind that I've never had a vent patient before, nevemind that nursing school left me sorely lacking for experience with jevity feeds or hanging blood (not allowed to do them) and didn't prepare me for all the administrative duties of a floor. But they think I ought to know this by now. And I'm afraid that when I fail miserably on my first day on my own that I'll be ostracized even further because I can't handle it.

Any words of encouragement? I like many others plan to get my year experience and head for the hills because I don't see this getting any better. But to make the next year go by smoothly I am either going to need some serious antidepressants or a crapload of bourbon, or both (haha).

Sorry so long but I needed to vent to people who understand where I'm coming from. My husband god love him is a saint but he doesn't get it.

Thanks guys :)

I read a comment on allnurses today that made me upset because she "is tired of reading people's posts of hating their coworkers and their workplace...." yada yada yada. I have to give you kudos, because I also come on here to vent and see what other nurses go through. Anyway, (I was also venting LOL), I think you should start looking elsewhere for now while you are getting experience, you will find you dream hospital :D

Hello, I'm a hardened old battle axe. In nearly 32 years of nursing I've only worked in two hospitals, my current one for 21 years now. You can learn a lot from us hardened old battle axes besides nursing skills. You can learn how to stick with your job no matter how tough it is because it's not easy out there in the job market these days. You're stressed yes, but I guarantee you the old battle axes are too. They are dedicated to what they do and you can learn from their example or cut and run. Examine your own attitude towards them and stop looking at them as adversaries. Hardened old battle axes are NURSES who have spent many years practicing nursing and have skills and experience that you currently through no fault of your own do not have. Pick the nurse who seems most approachable and ask her advice about something you need help with. Not only will she be flattered that you confide in her but she will be more willing to share knowledge with you in the future. You have to be the one to break the ice. Paula

Specializes in OB.

The situation you describe may be horrible, but do take a minute to examine your attitude. After only a few shifts you are labelling your coworkers as "hardened old battleaxes" and "the dregs of nursing".

Even if you never say any of these things at work (I'm sure you wouldn't) your attitude will show through.

Try taking a fresh outlook at your coworkers - they may have a myriad of reasons for staying there other than the inability to work elsewhere that you are unaware of. Maybe they are depending on years toward retirement. Perhaps their home situation requires that they work in a certain location or shift. Underneath the bad attitudes they may actually be dedicated to the facility and the patients if they have been there many years. Attitude may be their defense.

Realize also that there was a time when new nurses came out of school a lot more prepared in "hands on" nursing than the current grads. This may influence the "old battleaxes" expectations. Not necessarily your fault that you didn't get this, but just understanding can change perceptions.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

so here's the deal. our broke-ness has led to a mass exodus of all the "good" nurses- the young, promising, bright nurses who are motivated and enthusiastic. now the only thing left are the hardened mean old battle axes, the "i have no motivation to go anywhere else so i'll stay here and be miserable and make everyone else miserable" ones and the dumb ones. the morale and team environment on my floor sucks.

i knew this going in from my clinicals there, and still accepted the job because being a new grad left me with zero options. i felt i had to jump on the first train leaving the station even though it was a broke down rusty old mess. but i had *no idea* how miserable it would make me.

i posted about my preceptor in another thread, so i won't go into detail here about it other than to say that she was horrible, awful, no good and very bad. she sets the tone for all the other nurses i work with: no comeraderie with anyone, wary of "outsiders" and generally unhelpful and mean. two have stood out as being really awesome, but one of them is currently got her bsn and a year experience so she's being wooed by other places and won't be long until she's gone.

i was lied to when i got hired, saying i'd get cross trained to icu and er.

our brokeness has led to dirty units. i mean just *dirty* and gross. no staff, no aides, no support. many times we've had nurses with 5 patients or had the charge carry 4 patients plus act as resource for the lvn plus help a student nurse. our patients, 9 times out of 10 are on contact isolation from mrsa and vre cause we care for every indigent iv drug user in the county it seems (it's wintertime, afterall)-- not that i have an issue with that because i think they need care just as much as other people. but can i tell you how many times patients with regular insurance will be admitted from er post trauma or whatever and the family will insist on having them transferred because "we have insurance, we don't need to be here. the care here is atrocious."

i am smart, motivated, assertive. i ask good questions with very strong rationales, i am intelligent and friendly. this has made me marked with a scarlet a-- they call me aggrressive, a loudmouth, tell me i butt in too much and that i'm trying too hard to fit in. so when i interrupt a conversation about where nurse x bought her knockoff coach purse to get help because i've never hung blood before or i have a question about why a certain drug was ordered or need help starting an iv, i'm a buttinsky. i get eyerolls, heave sighs. they think i ought to know all of this by now, they think i should be able to handle 4 patients, nevermind that i've never had a vent patient before, nevemind that nursing school left me sorely lacking for experience with jevity feeds or hanging blood (not allowed to do them) and didn't prepare me for all the administrative duties of a floor. but they think i ought to know this by now. and i'm afraid that when i fail miserably on my first day on my own that i'll be ostracized even further because i can't handle it.

any words of encouragement? i like many others plan to get my year experience and head for the hills because i don't see this getting any better. but to make the next year go by smoothly i am either going to need some serious antidepressants or a crapload of bourbon, or both (haha).

sorry so long but i needed to vent to people who understand where i'm coming from. my husband god love him is a saint but he doesn't get it.

thanks guys :)

i guess i don't get it, either, although i must say i lost sympathy for your vent about the time you said the only nurses left were "mean old battleaxs", miserable or dumb nurses. you didn't win any points when you went on to say that you're smart, motivated, assertive, intelligent and friendly. (your posts don't sound very friendly!) evidently you're absolutely wonderful and everyone else is bottom of the barrel. poor you. it sounds like you read minds as well, since you claim to know what these experienced nurses are thinking.

i get that you're under a lot of stress in this situation, but i would venture to guess that the "hardened mean old battleaxes" are under a lot of stress as well. not only do that have to survive in deteriorating conditions, pick up extra slack for ancillary services that are no longer there and do without raises or perks, they have to precept you as well. i'm sure they weren't given any choice about whether or not they wanted to precept a new grad, either.

i understand that you're just venting, but you sound like one of the miserable nurses. i'd advice a little self-examination. figure out what you're contributing to the negative interactions you're having with your potential mentors and try to fix it. that's going to be difficult; it's easy to get a bad reputation and very, very difficult to fix it. are you sure you're interrupting conversations in a polite and respectful way? are you trying to be friendly and interested in your preceptors as people and not as potential fountains of information?

chat with your preceptors and clarify goals and expectations: yours and theirs. and try very hard to show some respect for their experience. calling them mean old battleaxes is not the way to demonstrate respect.

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