How do you think the New US President will affect Retrogression?

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It is so hard to wait. I have been watching the news but I really don't get to hear what are their plans for nurse immigrants. As an observer I think Barrack Obama will win. I just hope that something really positive pops up as the new president assumes office. Please share your views on this matter. Thanks:D

let us not forget, when mr. you know who from texas started his term, i am sure all of saw a lot of redflags stat. he took more vacation days than a regular john doe, and nobody said anything. gas price went up to the roof and nobody questioned it, i think. now that mr. obama wiil start his term next year, i hope every body, including the nay sayers will give him a break. he won't be in that position if he cannot do the job. and not to be out of topic, lets not forget that this country is an made of different people from different background, and we all know why illegals, legals, aliens, martians whathave yous wants a piece of america. they want to live free and make a better life. don't forget, for those who lives here in american soil, legal illegal etc. you live in one of the most powerful country in the world, each one of us contributes to the balance. it is now time for us to join mr. obama to move along to repair the damage done to our country and its people. it the time for us to show the world what it meant to be an american. or at least being part of this great country.

mr obama has the congress and senate behind him. also the press is 100% behind him, he will get positive press. one thing you have to remember the president from texas prevented another horrible attack on the usa. 9/11 changed my life in horrible ways, i lost people i knew. my hospital has security which is unbelievable, i have been in the hospital when the place was under stake down ( no one in or out) you are locked in the building. when i travel forget it is an ordeal. i wish mr obama every good wish but also hope he keeps america safe.

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Please dont be judgemental, dont generalize. I am a nurse and for sure before I post it its not a hearsay. Ive been one of the clients of this law firm, and they helped me from where I am now. (legally)..they are respectable and frankly speaking they are the most read site with 20,000,000+ visits. I am aware the US economy is melting, but it is not the end of the world.. Healthcare is still a strong field..Ok, this is what you want to hear. " The US Economy if weakening, NO WORK FOR IMMIGRANTS! PERIOD! STAY OUT!" Now, satisfied? But I tell you, my fellow countrymen from the Philippines especially nurses, who have an average age of 25 yrs old, are able to wait 2 yrs? 5yrs? 10 yrs? what the heck, Family based greencard petitions are running for 10yrs, and they can still afford to wait! The pride of the Philippines is that they have Young Professionals, by the way whats the average age of US Nurses right now? I hope those would be American Nursing Students wont have a hard time getting a student loan, with all those bad credits. :bow:

I agree with you when you are twenty the potential is endless, but I would add to your advice get nursing experience, if you are 5-10 years past graduation and no nursing experience you are not employable without going back to school and doing a refresher course.

Stafford loans are not based on credit, it based on being a US Citizen, registering for selective service ( males only) and no history of defaulting of a previos Stafford loan. And if the nurses have bad credit they can go to the Philippines to nursing school where is seems education is very cheap and admission is very easy.

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As I said, I do understand your post loud and clear. I think what bothers you is that I don't agree with what you're saying. But that's ok because I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me. You made comments about illegal immigrants, I called you on it and now you have to deal. You can dish, but you can't take. End of story

I have read both of your posts and can see both of your sides of view as a casual observer since I do not come from either of your countries. But from my view it is very difficult not to be biased to a personal view and I think that is at play here. What I simply don't understand is how someone that has come to this country from somewhere else whether it be 1 year ago or 100 years ago could be so forgetful of how thankful a person was to come to this country. From my perception your posts don't reflect your understanding that everyone wants the same dream that you and your ancestors were able to realize. I have no idea how long ago you were fortuntate enough to come to America but the fact remains that Lawrence has been attempting for many years to come to this country legally and you have to understand how frustrating it is to see those who are illegals being considered for legal citizenship prior to those who are still in their home countries waiting for many years just at a chance at permanent residency and then another long wait for citizenship. You can't blame someone for wanting something you already have been granted. But this is way off topic since this post was created to see what other people think Obama will do. He has a huge task to accomplish and I find it very amusing that even those who voted for him are now realizing he will not be able to accomplish anywhere close to what he promised and he has not even been sworn in yet.

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I have read both of your posts and can see both of your sides of view as a casual observer since I do not come from either of your countries. But from my view it is very difficult not to be biased to a personal view and I think that is at play here. What I simply don't understand is how someone that has come to this country from somewhere else whether it be 1 year ago or 100 years ago could be so forgetful of how thankful a person was to come to this country. From my perception your posts don't reflect your understanding that everyone wants the same dream that you and your ancestors were able to realize. I have no idea how long ago you were fortuntate enough to come to America but the fact remains that Lawrence has been attempting for many years to come to this country legally and you have to understand how frustrating it is to see those who are illegals being considered for legal citizenship prior to those who are still in their home countries waiting for many years just at a chance at permanent residency and then another long wait for citizenship. You can't blame someone for wanting something you already have been granted. But this is way off topic since this post was created to see what other people think Obama will do. He has a huge task to accomplish and I find it very amusing that even those who voted for him are now realizing he will not be able to accomplish anywhere close to what he promised and he has not even been sworn in yet.

My family is from Cuba, I wasn't born there. I'm a US citizen born in an American hospital. I totally understand frustration because I see my people are being granted legal residency when there are others who are desperately trying to make it here. I am one who voices my opinion on how I think it's unfair that my people get this opportunity that most don't get. The whole argument is that Cubans are seeking political refuge, it applies to some, but in reality the majority of them come here to make more money because they see what we have here.

The original poster made statements regarding illegal immigrants that were not only false, but also some didn't even apply to them. That's what usually what happens when you assume something regarding a whole group of people that you know nothing about. Also regarding illegals (and some of them are legal BTW) you have to understand they're not here taking skilled jobs, they're taking on the jobs that YOU AND I DON'T WANT! These people are working the fields, dairy farms, packing sheds etc and they're keeping the prices of these products down because they're willing to work for cheap. I wouldn't want to work there and I know you wouldn't want to work there. If you see the conditions that they live in now you'd be mortified, and just to think that these conditions are paradise compared to where they came from. So if someone wants to desperately come to this country, come in illegally and work the fields, dairy farms, packing sheds etc for cheap. People who are desperate to find work will work any job at any wage, and these immigrants are the perfect example.

But back to retrogression, Obama has more important issues to deal with inside this nation. He has to clean up the mess that Bush has made. Retrogression is going to be the last thing on his mind with the war going on, the economy in the toilet, and unemployment in this country. He can be for immigration for people wanting to enter here to work, but it will be secondary to the citizens and residents who are unemployed.

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My family is from Cuba, I wasn't born there. I'm a US citizen born in an American hospital. I totally understand frustration because I see my people are being granted legal residency when there are others who are desperately trying to make it here. I am one who voices my opinion on how I think it's unfair that my people get this opportunity that most don't get. The whole argument is that Cubans are seeking political refuge, it applies to some, but in reality the majority of them come here to make more money because they see what we have here.

The original poster made statements regarding illegal immigrants that were not only false, but also some didn't even apply to them. That's what usually what happens when you assume something regarding a whole group of people that you know nothing about. Also regarding illegals (and some of them are legal BTW) you have to understand they're not here taking skilled jobs, they're taking on the jobs that YOU AND I DON'T WANT! These people are working the fields, dairy farms, packing sheds etc and they're keeping the prices of these products down because they're willing to work for cheap. I wouldn't want to work there and I know you wouldn't want to work there. If you see the conditions that they live in now you'd be mortified, and just to think that these conditions are paradise compared to where they came from. So if someone wants to desperately come to this country, come in illegally and work the fields, dairy farms, packing sheds etc for cheap. People who are desperate to find work will work any job at any wage, and these immigrants are the perfect example.

But back to retrogression, Obama has more important issues to deal with inside this nation. He has to clean up the mess that Bush has made. Retrogression is going to be the last thing on his mind with the war going on, the economy in the toilet, and unemployment in this country. He can be for immigration for people wanting to enter here to work, but it will be secondary to the citizens and residents who are unemployed.

You have taken my posts out of context. Same way you are also taking rngrad2006's post out of context as well. Anyway, people can compare our two posts and judge for themselves. At least, I was able to express my opinion w/o being condescending nor result in name-calling.

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You have taken my posts out of context. Same way you are also taking rngrad2006's post out of context as well. Anyway, people can compare our two posts and judge for themselves. At least, I was able to express my opinion w/o being condescending nor result in name-calling.

I have to agree, if people re-read your post, it's clear what you stated. As I said before if it was taken out of content it's because of the way you worded it. You also made statements regarding a group of people that you know nothing about. But that's just one group of people that we're talking about. There are many illegal immigrants here who are here for different reasons.

I really have nothing against you, I don't dislike anybody on this board, but I just don't agree with what you said regarding immigration. I want to make that clear. You may dislike me for my posts but that's ok because that's on you.

Anyway, back to retrogression. You're waiting patiently for your turn at a chance to come here, and I really hope that you're one chosen once retrogression is lifted. I think that the people who are in line doing things the right way should be granted a chance at a green card.

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My dad was an American immigrant. He loved this country and taught me respect for this country. He also talked about his (my) heritage. He was a Columbia College graduate but would humble himself to take any employment that was available. Was very proud to be an American and became a citizen as soon as he could.

My mother was first generation immigration, my grandparents had to endure prejudice and would here- "Irish need not apply" and her family had to leave because of a famine. Many of her family died of hunger in Ireland.

I do not forget what my parents and grandparents had to endure to come the USA. Both my parents embraced the USA, very active in politics and paid taxes. Both where very proud to be Americans.

My issue with foreign nurses sending money home is several reasons, if I gift my American children $10,001 my kids have to pay taxes on my that I already paid taxes yet, foreign nurses send money home. Not only is this money not spent in the USA it is not taxed again. Every time I travel outside the USA I am asked if I have over $10,000 in cash, so I am assuming I would have to declare this if I left with this amount.

I feel very bad for everyone who is trying to get into the US the legal way. It is a gift if you are able to get the opportunity my father did to come the USA. But it is a gift not a right . You are asking to be a guest . I was blessed being born here .

As a guest, you have to wait until all the Americans have jobs and services. It is privilege to work in the USA. Don't assume just because you are a nurse you are above other people.

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Retrogression is a backlog in the system due to the huge difference in the number of approved applicants and the number of available EB visas per year and also wastage of visa numbers by CIS. It is not only about foreign nurses but affects all employment based categories. When the congress considers EB immigration reform (I believe they will sooner or later) they will consider all aspects and not only from a nursing point of view.

If some are so convinced that the nurse shortage in US is a myth, then the solution should be to remove RN occupation from DOL's Schedule A classification hence insisting on Labour Certification process. The employer will then have to prove the lack of available local nurses for each job vacancy before offering it to foreign nurses. Hence retrogression is not the pathway to prevent foreign nurses from coming to US.

To Alex49,

I have not read a single post by anyone on this thread claiming to be superior to anyone just because he /she is a nurse or demanding to get into US on this basis. As foreign nurses applying for US, most of us are aware of how the US immigration system works. I find your advice unwarranted and irrelevant to the topic of discussion.

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Retrogression is a backlog in the system due to the huge difference in the number of approved applicants and the number of available EB visas per year and also wastage of visa numbers by CIS. It is not only about foreign nurses but affects all employment based categories. When the congress considers EB immigration reform (I believe they will sooner or later) they will consider all aspects and not only from a nursing point of view.

If some are so convinced that the nurse shortage in US is a myth, then the solution should be to remove RN occupation from DOL’s Schedule A classification hence insisting on Labour Certification process. The employer will then have to prove the lack of available local nurses for each job vacancy before offering it to foreign nurses. Hence retrogression is not the pathway to prevent foreign nurses from coming to US.

Well said!!!

If nursing shortage is a myth then recruiters and hospitals enticing nurse immigrants to apply in America should be sanctioned. American Employers as well as hospital representatives conduct seminars and orientation to nurses in our country to invite them to apply. As applicants we undergo the legal process of hiring. Requirements are met and we also take and pass the same NCLEX-RN exams.

Nurse immigrants apply in US with the thought of finding a career and not to "steal" employment slots or compete with American Nurses making them out of job in the process. As a soon-to-be nurse immigrant (I am also in line waiting for movement of retrogression), I am making myself well equipped and capable to render the best nursing care I can provide to my future clients in the US.

I am fully aware that US welcomes immigrants regardless of race, color and creed. America is the author of democracy in our country. I just hope that President Obama will be fair to applying immigrants.:)

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Specializes in Telemetry.

Amen! I was born here in the USA and it hurts me to see people using a paint brush to plaster all illegal immigrants here. Some of these people work verey hard. If Obama has no time for retrogression, he will provide a passage for some illegals to be permanent residents here. I hope and pray that something works out for them. There are many illegal immigrants who are nurses here too and the passage to permanent residency will help them.

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this is not the place for personal attacks on anyone and will not be tolerated.

please stick to what was being discussed and please play nice.

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Specializes in Nephro, ICU, LTC and counting.

On the matters of illegal immigration, I am with Lou Dobbs. I wish the new president would listen to him.

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