How do you think the New US President will affect Retrogression?

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It is so hard to wait. I have been watching the news but I really don't get to hear what are their plans for nurse immigrants. As an observer I think Barrack Obama will win. I just hope that something really positive pops up as the new president assumes office. Please share your views on this matter. Thanks:D

If you want to look at immigration and foreign policy, Obama isn't going to look at retrogressoin over the Trade Embargo & Travel Ban against Cuba. This policy is brutal and will be looked at before retrogression. I honestly don't believe he's going to even look at it anytime soon. At this point retrogression is in the back burner.

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My opinion is that the embargo to Cuba needs to be lifted from a humanitarian view point, since Cuba is such a close neighbor to the USA.

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Most Americans feel that there should be limited immigration since immigrates at least intially add to the tax rolls ( kids going to school, healthcare , etc). With the US economic situation I don't think most Americans are looking to add to their tax burdeon.

I really don't want to make personal assesments.. and I'm sorry but there is no other way to say it... but that is a very xenophobic comment.

Reducing people to "tax burdens" is very cold and unappreciative of the wealth of social, professional and economic growth that can occur for a community with the right kind of immigration patterns.

We are not talking about refugees, which Iraq and Afghanistan are the current largest numbers into the USA for (thank you Mr. Bush).

We are talking about educated professionals who are coming to work for employment.

Even if we were talking about refugees it has long been the responsibility of the USA (by the nature of its creation) to be a refuge for those who have been forced from homelands due to oppression and fear.

I realize now that we have fundamental differences of opinion with the nature of immigration. Whereas I see it as an open door for all who are not criminals or who would not seek to spread violence and crime; you seem to only want immigration for a select elite few.

I cannot agree with your view and I hope and pray that you represent a minority opinion.

According to you, my wife should not even be allowed into the USA. After all, she is not immigrating to be employed or anything... I guess she'll just be one of those "Tax burdens" you were talking about.

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Hushdawg, how do you find our people? How was adjusting to change here? I really appreciate all that you have shared in this thread. By coming to the Philippines, I'm sure you have embraced some of our ways and practices. Hopefully, when I get to US, change will welcome me. One think is certain, I'm quite sure that I will be Americanize...without people forcing Amrerican culture, I will embrace it.

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The Filipinos are the best part about the Philippines. By far. I love the food, the fruit, the ability to be completely isolated in just a few jeep rides or be in the heart of one of the busiest cities in the world by just as much time.

But by far all the reasons I love living in the Philippines come back to the people.

On the whole, I find that Pinoys are gentle, considerate, have close and devoted family ties, are polite to a fault and exceptionally giving even when they have little for themselves.

Yes, it is true that there are some rotten ones like the fixers, scam artists and those who target foreigners to take advantage of them. Yes, I have been victimized by a lot of those and I face discrimination on a daily basis. However, all that being said.. the average Pinoy has a lot to teach the average American.

I think that both cultures could grow and improve a lot with adaptations of bits and pieces here and there.

The Filipino family concept is much better than the American mindset. The high level of respect given to family members, elders and others is something that I hope the Philippines exports along with it's workers.

I adore the concept which is shared with Arabs and Africans of calling all similarly aged persons "brother" or "sister" ("ate" and "kuya" of course).

There is a lot that I would like to see change in the Philippines, but more and more there are ways I'd like to see the Philippines change Americans.

I hope that you will not completely Americanize.

There is a concept that America is a "great Melting Pot" yet a young and enthusiastic Representative in Illinois once told me that it has never really been that.

America is not a Melting Pot where people come in and infuse and merge into a homogeneous culture and format.

Rather, America is like a stew. The broth is the American culture and the American legal system with rights, freedoms, liberties and a base construct of culture. Every subculture that is added to the mix is like the meat, the potato, the carrot or the peas of the stew... they add to the overall richness, flavor and consistency, but they do not stop being who they are. They are flavored by the broth, but do not become broth. They add flavor to one another but do not become one another.

In this way America has become the multicultural society that we now see and which flourishes both economically and socially.

It is this order that has allowed the election of our first African-American president. The push of Caucasian supremacy in rule and in power of the country has succumbed to the overwhelming increase of persons of all races and cultures merging together into this 21st Century America.

As a white person whose ancestors fled religious persecution and came to the USA more than 350 years ago, I am proud to see her maintaining such promise and hope for all peoples from all lands.

Sorry for straying off-topic... anything further will go to Private Message.

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I really don't want to make personal assesments.. and I'm sorry but there is no other way to say it... but that is a very xenophobic comment..

Me and my colleagues,totally agree with you. Post are getting strayed and totally sounding Xenophobic. No wonder some members are not visiting this site anymore. :o

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Specializes in BWICU.
If you want to look at immigration and foreign policy, Obama isn't going to look at retrogressoin over the Trade Embargo & Travel Ban against Cuba. This policy is brutal and will be looked at before retrogression. I honestly don't believe he's going to even look at it anytime soon. At this point retrogression is in the back burner.

Retrogression or no retrogression, Filipinos will be coming to the US to work as Nurses. They are doing it the Legal way, so no ones going to stop those who wish to work in the US. Unless you tell US Hospital Recruiters to stop recruiting in the Philippines, or tell US Boards of Nursing to stop accepting foreign applicants to take the Nclex and tell US Immigration to ban Filipino Nurses in applying for greencards.. Contracts have already been signed, I-140 have been filed and approved, now they are just waiting for their Permanent Residence Visas. Sooner or later their processing dates will come. Those who have left for the US as Greencard holders will be replaced by a new batch, it only goes on and on. So whos going to stop them from coming, if they follow by the rules. Lou Dobbs? FAIR? NumbersUSA? Retrogression or no retrogression, it is not important to Filipinos. bec they can wait, unlike US counterparts,Filipinos are not rich on mortgages and credits, but rich on helping one another in times of difficulties, thats what makes us different.

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Can we please keep to topic and not stray from the question President elect and immigration. Please keep to friendly debates and no personal attacks.

Closing this thread for a short time out

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