How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

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How have you expressed your displeasure about their choice? Are you questioning why they have not been terminated yet?

5 hours ago, subee said:

You make it confusing when you insert your reply into the previous post.

One cannot wear effective PPE outside of a hospital.  PPE doesn't help us much for going to plays, concerts or restaurants.  The colleagues who don't vaccinate are the ones creating the stress.  All sorts of terrible things have happened in history because people didn't speak up about injustice,

PPE was a solution before e.u.a for the vaccine is all I’m saying,I feel it’s important to be vaccinated being in the healthcare field, but I reserve the right to critique those who’ve been there from the beginning to have to make a decision if it goes against their moral compass.I’m referring to working in the hospital,obviously your not going to walk around gowned,masked and safety goggles. Sorry for the confusion…

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1 hour ago, LoriLu2010 said:

PPE was a solution before e.u.a for the vaccine is all I’m saying,I feel it’s important to be vaccinated being in the healthcare field, but I reserve the right to critique those who’ve been there from the beginning to have to make a decision if it goes against their moral compass.I’m referring to working in the hospital,obviously your not going to walk around gowned,masked and safety goggles. Sorry for the confusion…

What "moral compass" tells people not to vaccinate against a highly contagious disease?

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1 hour ago, LoriLu2010 said:

PPE was a solution before e.u.a for the vaccine is all I’m saying,I feel it’s important to be vaccinated being in the healthcare field, but I reserve the right to critique those who’ve been there from the beginning to have to make a decision if it goes against their moral compass.I’m referring to working in the hospital,obviously your not going to walk around gowned,masked and safety goggles. Sorry for the confusion…

And yet more than 3600 healthcare workers  died in the first year of the pandemic. PPE is not the only tool to protect us.

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I wonder how many of those unvaccinated workers are basketball fans and will take the vaccine because LeBron took the vaccine recently, endorsing it's efficacy? 

And then, if that's their rationale for taking the vaccine, why shouldn't they lose their qualifications immediately and put in jail for stupidity! 

I don't doubt for a second that LeBron's influencer status is probably greater than Dr Fauci's. And, what does that reflect about our society? 

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On 9/29/2021 at 6:21 PM, nursej22 said:

And yet more than 3600 healthcare workers  died in the first year of the pandemic. PPE is not the only tool to protect us.

That's right!  Still need vaccine and social distancing for the best protection.  Most laymen do not think of that:(

 

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On 9/23/2021 at 9:02 PM, DesiDani said:

Rushed tested for COVID or claim that the patient is negative. I have no clue why it happens. Busy? I guess. Still is has happened a few times. Maybe the RNs in ER doing the tests aren't doing them correctly. When a pt comes to a unit and the nurse who does a better tests gets a positive. This is only after that positive patient has shared a room with another person for a week or more.

I think you missed the point of @toomuchbaloney s . ER nurses wouldnt be swamped and rushing if we didn't have swarms of people in the ER for a virus that is preventable with a vaccine. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

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1 minute ago, Charlcie said:

think you missed the point of @toomuchbaloney s . ER nurses wouldnt be swamped and rushing if we didn't have swarms of people in the ER for a virus that is preventable with a vaccine. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

To be honest. I don't know the whys. All I know is the result on my end, in my unit. What you say is true, not doubting that. Still you have to deal with the unvaccinated and those with COVID. I do know that the identity of the unvaccinated is not a monolith. 

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50 minutes ago, Charlcie said:

I think you missed the point of @toomuchbaloney s . ER nurses wouldnt be swamped and rushing if we didn't have swarms of people in the ER for a virus that is preventable with a vaccine. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

Speaking from first hand experience as an ER nurse who obtains PCR samples on virtually every shift I work, I can atest to the fact it takes about 10 seconds or less to properly obtain the nasal swab sample for a PCR test. I don't understand how any competent RN would be unable to obtain a usable sample w/o difficult regardless of whether they are in the ED, on a Med-Surg floor or the ICU. Even if they are dealing with "swarms of people". I work in the regions only Level 1 Trauma Center ED and thankfully we are not dealing with "swarms" of COVID patients. We have our share, but they are not the reason we have bed shortages or crowded waiting rooms. We have staffing shortages that resulted in more than 60 floor beds and 20 ICU beds being closed on my last shift (that is data available to the staff to see on line). During that same time, I believe I saw maybe 3 patients listed as COVID positive in the ED. So all that to say this: A negative test obtained in the ED is just that. How long after that test was the patients the earlier poster referring to retested? Could it have taken some time for the virus to incubate/replicate enough to be detected? Just throwing that out there, because the process of obtaining the sample is not rocket science and even if the facility in question is "swarming" with patients, 10 seconds in a competent RN's shift should not be that hard to put aside in order to obtain a good sample.

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19 minutes ago, RJMDilts said:

Speaking from first hand experience as an ER nurse who obtains PCR samples on virtually every shift I work, I can atest to the fact it takes about 10 seconds or less to properly obtain the nasal swab sample for a PCR test.

I don't think anyone was arguing that. I was speaking to something that was said prior. I work ER and ICU and do them all the time and I agree it takes all of a few seconds and I knock it out 

As far as the other part of your comment I can only speak to the geographical areas I've worked since delta and from personal experience people are not getting care they need because of this horrible outbreak which has caused workers to be out sick and an influx of patients. Our ICU is full of covid right now so if we get ANYTHING else in the ER we have to send the patient elsewhere. We are flying people out of state because there are no beds. The staffing issue here is because we are full and the patients are extremely sick so we are tripled with people who would normally be a 1 to 1. 

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Sometimes we'll find out the same day. Like I said I don't know the whys, but it happens. Once we had a resident run up to our unit in a hurry, before the pt got to the room. 

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7 hours ago, DesiDani said:

Sometimes we'll find out the same day. Like I said I don't know the whys, but it happens. Once we had a resident run up to our unit in a hurry, before the pt got to the room. 

I wonder if it was the fact of what that they were tested with in the ED. My ED sometimes "double" tests. What I mean by that is this: There is a rapid "antigen" test, which is less sensitive/acurate and then there is the PCR. Where I work we often do both. Sometimes though, if the patient is asymptomatic, they only get an antigen test before going to the floor. Maybe that is what happened where you are at? Antigen in the ED and PCR on the floor? IDK, but I know that has happened where I work. After reading Charlcie's response to me, it hit me, that we did two different tests according to the situation and patient. EX: Trauma with pending emergent surgery pending and asymptomatic got a rapid test and off to the O.R. or asymptomatic pending admission, again, rapid antigen and/or PCR depending on the chief complaint/patient history. Obviously any symptomatic gets the PCR.

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