How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

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How have you expressed your displeasure about their choice? Are you questioning why they have not been terminated yet?

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1 hour ago, DesiDani said:

Who knows. Maybe they are rushed, too busy?

 

I'm sorry that is not an excuse. A flippant neg today positive tomorrow is callous when a patient could potentially be infected.

Yes...many emergency departments are busier than they would prefer because there are lots of unvaccinated people getting sick and visiting their place of work.  

I didn't offer an excuse.  I stated the obvious.  An exposed individual who is covid negative today has no guarantee that they will be negative tomorrow. That's basic virology.

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1 hour ago, DesiDani said:

This is the vaccinated elitist attitude I speak of. The CDC says you can still get the Delta Virus and spread it even if fully vaccinated. 

When will the Snow Piercer COVID Express leave the station?

Twilight zone theme.  Is it just all or nothing with you?  

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11 hours ago, hherrn said:

What on earth are you talking about?

It appears to reference a 2014 Sci Fi movie about a dystopian society that lives on a train whose tracks span the Globe. (I guess they forgot about oceans) Still people who get their ideas from Bad movies should be met with disdain.

Hppy

 

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12 hours ago, DesiDani said:

This is the vaccinated elitist attitude I speak of. The CDC says you can still get the Delta Virus and spread it even if fully vaccinated. 

When will the Snow Piercer COVID Express leave the station?

 

11 hours ago, hherrn said:

What on earth are you talking about?

Pretty good TV show based off a pretty decent movie! Snowpiercer is an apocalyptic drama taking place entirely on an apparently very long train that continuously circles a frozen earth.  All of surviving humanity is on this train, separated by class with the front of the train being the elite, class descends as you go farther down the train until the end where the "tailies" live that are the stowaways that managed to get on the train as it was leaving the station. Drama ensues.

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On 9/23/2021 at 6:37 PM, DesiDani said:

Umm wrong. You are using a misinformation trope. I clearly said that immuned compromised can get covid from both the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Never said equally, you added that. By the way I checked my facts with the CDC and Clevland Health Institute.

Just because you are vaccinated doesnt mean you can not be a risk to others. Not everyone can get vaccinated.

And that's exactly why everyone who CAN get vaccinated SHOULD get vaccinated...to protect those who can't get vaccinated, silly.  Vaccinated people are less risk to others.  Are you saying that because we can't ensure that vaccinated people aren't 100% ever contagious that means that we shouldn't vaccinate everyone that can receive it?  And don't even bring Snowpiercer into this argument.  That movie is way beyond your understanding if you actually believe that vaccinated people are "elitist."

We are soooooo lucky to live in a country with access to the vax that it accessible to everyone who is willing to show up and get it.

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20 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Look at it this way.  Your employer is allowing all involved to understand where the risks for covid are known to exist...in the patient population and in the employee population.  Many health professionals may not feel comfortable working in close environments with unvaccinated coworkers.  They deserve to at least know so that they can try to protect against breakthrough infection.  

Is it "judgy" to ask the person to not smoke right outside the door of the library? How about, is it "judgy" to mention that the line cook just picked that bun up off the floor and brushed it off? Vaccination is a matter of public health.  This is a pandemic.  No kidding,life is full of choices if you’re a line cook you are required to wash your hands after using the bathroom,wouldn’t one want to protect the vulnerable with a vaccine? If you wear PPE aren’t you protecting the vulnerable? The message is blurred with self righteous ppl looking down their noses at those who make the decision not to vaccinate,who cares? We should be supporting our colleagues during a stressful time.We all have different perspectives on all of this but NO ONE knows the answer otherwise this would be over.Peace Out ✌️ 

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3 minutes ago, LoriLu2010 said:
20 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Look at it this way.  Your employer is allowing all involved to understand where the risks for covid are known to exist...in the patient population and in the employee population.  Many health professionals may not feel comfortable working in close environments with unvaccinated coworkers.  They deserve to at least know so that they can try to protect against breakthrough infection.  

Is it "judgy" to ask the person to not smoke right outside the door of the library? How about, is it "judgy" to mention that the line cook just picked that bun up off the floor and brushed it off? Vaccination is a matter of public health.  This is a pandemic.  No kidding,life is full of choices if you’re a line cook you are required to wash your hands after using the bathroom,wouldn’t one want to protect the vulnerable with a vaccine? If you wear PPE aren’t you protecting the vulnerable? The message is blurred with self righteous ppl looking down their noses at those who make the decision not to vaccinate,who cares? We should be supporting our colleagues during a stressful time.We all have different perspectives on all of this but NO ONE knows the answer otherwise this would be over.Peace Out ✌️ 

You make it confusing when you insert your reply into the previous post.

One cannot wear effective PPE outside of a hospital.  PPE doesn't help us much for going to plays, concerts or restaurants.  The colleagues who don't vaccinate are the ones creating the stress.  All sorts of terrible things have happened in history because people didn't speak up about injustice,

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52 minutes ago, subee said:

You make it confusing when you insert your reply into the previous post.

One cannot wear effective PPE outside of a hospital.  PPE doesn't help us much for going to plays, concerts or restaurants.  The colleagues who don't vaccinate are the ones creating the stress.  All sorts of terrible things have happened in history because people didn't speak up about injustice,

Really? I think the medics on ambulances wear pretty effective PPE. I am vaxxed, so my non-vaxxed colleagues don't cause me one iota of stress. Why would, they since they are wearing PPE at work so I am doubly protected. And what injustice are you talking about? 

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2 hours ago, LoriLu2010 said:

No kidding,life is full of choices if you’re a line cook you are required to wash your hands after using the bathroom,wouldn’t one want to protect the vulnerable with a vaccine? If you wear PPE aren’t you protecting the vulnerable? The message is blurred with self righteous ppl looking down their noses at those who make the decision not to vaccinate,who cares? We should be supporting our colleagues during a stressful time.We all have different perspectives on all of this but NO ONE knows the answer otherwise this would be over.Peace Out ✌️ 

Wrong.

We do have the answer to this pandemic and that answer is vaccination. 

Peace out.

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2 hours ago, LoriLu2010 said:

The message is blurred with self righteous ppl looking down their noses at those who make the decision not to vaccinate,who cares?

I care.

2 hours ago, LoriLu2010 said:

We all have different perspectives on all of this

But the actual experts on the subject overwhelmingly share the same perspective.

Not all perspectives are equal, and not all have value.

2 hours ago, LoriLu2010 said:

NO ONE knows the answer otherwise this would be over

Actually, epidemiologists do have a pretty good idea how to slow, or stop this epidemic.  It isn't really a mystery.  If people stopped transmitting this virus to each other, we would be closer to being out of it.  And experts absolutely DO KNOW how to slow virus transmission.

Virus transmission has absolutely nothing to do with perspectives, particularly those gained primarily from social media, and the activity many refer to as "doing my own research".  As a virus, it doesn't give a s*** about anybody's perspective.

Pees out.

 

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6 hours ago, hppygr8ful said:

It appears to reference a 2014 Sci Fi movie about a dystopian society that lives on a train whose tracks span the Globe. (I guess they forgot about oceans) Still people who get their ideas from Bad movies should be met with disdain.

Hppy

 

Hey if the train can travel the world without refueling, I suppose it can float across water too??

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3 hours ago, RJMDilts said:

Really? I think the medics on ambulances wear pretty effective PPE. I am vaxxed, so my non-vaxxed colleagues don't cause me one iota of stress. Why would, they since they are wearing PPE at work so I am doubly protected. And what injustice are you talking about? 

They aren't wearing PPE outside of the hospital.   Do they wear PPE while eating and drinking  in the breakdown? How about the movies or restaurants? The justice part comes in when a few people can hold so many others hostage.

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