Have anyone else heard of "basic care NURSES"?

purplemania, BSN, RN · Oct 8, 2004

It is illegal in Texas to call yourself a nurse if you are not licensed as such (same for MD too, by the way). Sounds shady to me.

mscsrjhm · Oct 8, 2004

Awwww, maybe we are just jealous.

After all: "Nightingale students earn national certifications in six areas: phlebotomy, EKG, front office and back office skills, acute and chronic long-term care, glucose specialist and medical administration skills." (See post #9).

Front AND back office skills.....gosh.

Seriously, this is really sad.

P_RN, ADN, RN · Oct 9, 2004

I wrote the Georgia and SC BON's http://www.llr.state.sc.us/POL/Nursing/.

I also wrote the Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/index.html

and the AUgusta Chronicle (where the Medical College of Ga is)http://augustachronicle.com/

So far no acknowledgements but maybe someone will take note.

RN4NICU, LPN, LVN · Oct 9, 2004

Awwww, maybe we are just jealous.
After all: "Nightingale students earn national certifications in six areas: phlebotomy, EKG, front office and back office skills, acute and chronic long-term care, glucose specialist and medical administration skills." (See post #9).
Front AND back office skills.....gosh.
Seriously, this is really sad.

:eek: Good God - they're gonna let these wannabe hacks give meds??

I don't want some fool off the street that doesn't even know what a nurse is OR ISN'T giving a vitamin to MY DOG!! I sure wouldn't want them doing a chemstick on me! What if it's out of range? Do they get to write their own sliding scale too? (Trained by docs, after all...) :uhoh3:

Here's to hoping I never need medical care in GA! :chair:

If their BON takes this lying down, that says a lot about them, don't you think?

NurseFirst · Oct 9, 2004

Around here (Northern California), taking an EMT course through a private school is in the thousands of dollars. I think the charge for the subsequent paramedic training is around $10,000.

Private school programs are EXPENSIVE.

(So is University of Phoenix, by the way.)

avahsmiles · Oct 9, 2004

:angryfire Ridiculous!!!! They are ripping people off! and defrauding the community.
I can get my BSN for $9,000--I wouldn't pay $6,000 for a six month PSEUDO_NURSE program.

Yep, I agree! $6000 to become a 'fake nurse' is pretty unbelievable! :nono:

RNPATL, DNP, RN · Oct 10, 2004

I find this outrageous! I also think it is very interesting that physicians are teaching students about basic nursing skills under the premise that they want to keep with Florence Nightengale's principles. Can anyone tell me how many physicians they know which would even have the slightest clue as to what Florence Nightengale's principles would have been? I know I could not!

PRN - Can you post a sample of the letter you wrote? I am ready to send off an email also!

talaxandra · Oct 10, 2004

I think "medical administration skills" are probably admin duties (ie medical secretarial type work) rather than medication administrations. OTOH, given the shonkiness of the whole thing I wouldn't bet on it!

I want to know about being a glucose specialist - I suppose it means learning how to take a blood sugar (cause that's soemthing I'd pay $6600 for), but maybe it means knowing everything about the glucose molecule. Hmm.

Indy, LPN, LVN · Oct 10, 2004

Omigosh... I'm almost embarrassed to be from Georgia after reading that ad. I hear that nursing schools in Atlanta do have some long waiting lists, so it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of impatient people with too much money and no sense.

I hope to graduate an ADN program in the spring and I don't think i've spent $2k total on my education so far. Hello, financial aid! I get paid to go to school; the estimate of $2k is for gas, assorted childcare, and the expenses of my first two quarters before financial aid kicked in.

I'm forwarding that ad and the links to the GA BON to my classmates and teachers.

-Indy

ReinventingMyselfAgain, MSN, RN · Oct 10, 2004

:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire and the village idiot with a 10th grade education can go through a 6 month program and start off at around $14.00/hr???:angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

that's the most insulting part. that theses people believe they have the 'solution' to the nursing shortage, by lowering the standard of what a nurse is :angryfire:angryfire . i know people may find this hard to believe, but not everyone is cut out to be a nurse!!!! and i love the part about how 'unlike traditional nursing programs, these classes are taught by physicians'. hello?!?!?!? what do doctors know aout being nurses!! are people stupid enough to fall for this and enroll? and what happens when they find out they are not really nurses, and cannot get a job as a nurse?

ReinventingMyselfAgain, MSN, RN · Oct 10, 2004

i have the feeling that the people enrolling in this program cannot qualify for college entrance, and this program is taking advantage of that. much like medical assisting programs, they cost too much and the pay is terrible. people often do not research what they are getting into, and will not go the extra mile to fulfill the requirements for college entrance, such as high school education, sat's, etc. patients do not deserve to be thrown into the care of people who cannot persevere through a traditional nursing program. and my really big question is, what do doctors know about nursing? it is a completely different practice!

that says it all. not for nothing, but if they don't have the sense to get a hs diploma, they're certainly not going to see through this scam. besides, it must be legit, if doctors are teaching it :chuckle :chuckle

LydiaGreen · Oct 10, 2004

I sent an e-mail to Alberta's version of your BONs - about the "school" they have in Alberta. I haven't heard anything back. I hope they are taking their time because they are investigating it. My main question was about the title "Basic Care Nurse" that the Georgia school claims to have secured in Alberta. They do list it on their Alberta site but with no information other than that they have it trademarked - as in a brand name like Coke or Pepsi. Doesn't THAT sound a little shady?