Gee, thanks, Mom!

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I know, I know, I'm on a roll. Last night with the strangling post and now this. What can I say? This is cheaper than counseling. :chuckle

I have posted several times about my mother in the past, how, despite my newly minted MSN and soon-to-be NP, apparently my cousin, her niece, still knows more than I do, despite having only an Associate's Degree. (and no, I am not knocking that, she worked hard for it, it just rankles, and I'll explain why in a minute)

Back in June, my GF contracted bacterial endocarditis. Initially, his WBC count was only 11.4, and with cultures pending, the ER docs did not want to start abx, thinking it was most likely a virus. I was right along with them, seeing as how my preceptor was the Medical Director of that ER. Well, a week goes by, and he did not get better, running fevers, delirious, peeing on himself, etc... Did Mama take him to HIS doc for a follow up? No. Did they respond to the phone call from the ER that the cultures grew out gram + cocci in clusters? No. GF does not make business phone calls because he does not like to. So, I have to listen in the meantime to a barrage of criticism from family about the no abx. Never mind that they did not do the basic thing like TAKE HIM TO THE DOC! No, I just have to listen to them say what idiots we all are. Except Christine. Christine said he NEEDED abx, for a boost. Christine said that a count of 11.4 was low, and that was why he needed them. Even after my aunt, Christine's mother trotted that out in front of the whole family, so as to make me look a fool, and I contradicted with my Patho book to back me up. No dice. And my own mother did not defend me. Of course, she was mystified 2 days later when GF's doc started calling ME instead of her for decisions, but that's another story.

Flash forward a month. I pop a bleeding ulcer in Florida and lose 6 pints of blood. I nearly died, with no one but DH and my in-laws there. Mama and Daddy were all het up to get me home, and then Mama decides she "might not come" to get me. I thought at the time she did not want to see me like that, but more recent instances have made me think differently.

About a month before my graduation, I am having a conversation with Christine online about my clinicals and she makes the comments that, "NP's can't give orders. How would that hold up in a court? Anyone who follows what you say is just setting themselves up." When I told my Mom about this, her response was, "Well, she just does not understand." Dear God, if the situation were reversed and I had said that to Christine, I'd have been persona non grata for the rest of my natural life.

December rolls around, and I am trying to get hold of Christine to ascertain whether or not her little boy has something that I am going to get him for Christmas. She will not answer her phone, return my calls, or speak to me on the Internet. As I am also trying to get several little presents for Mom and Christine's mom to give he boy, I really need to find out what he does and does not have. About a week ago, Christine left a message that she had had some bad news medically, but that everything was OK now, and to call her. She still has yet to answer.

I relayed this to my Mom as we were eating dinner on our way to a concert one night, and her excuse for Christine was that until I dealt with something like that, I would not know how it was. To which I responded, "You know, Mom, I looked death in the face 6 months ago, and while I can't say I was thrilled at the prospect of that, I took my phone calls, including about 10 from Christine."

She made several other various and sundry excuses, and then, the thing I could not then and still really have not come to terms with was said.

"Well, this will sound cold, but I can stand the thought of you dying easier than I can her. You don't have small children."

That really did wonders for the old appetite, let me tell you. My own Mama would rather me die than a cousin, simply because I have yet to spawn. I guess I should have asked her if having just one would do, since Christine has 2, or did I need to try for twins so I'd be worthy.

I suppose I'm overreacting, and I guess i just wanted to vent. The DH thing was bad, but at least he hasn't said he wants me dead. If it wasn't for my Daddy, I don't know what I'd do. I really do not know how to explain how much it hurts to go through all the education to try and better myself and still have your own family treat you like garbage and basically tell you that they'd rather see you dead than someone else. I just don't know what to do. Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

counseling, counseling, counseling.....

are you the only girl or at least oldest girl? ....when you said "i dont know what i would do without daddy" it makes me think that your mother sees you as a threat.....that is if your parents are still together...

now repeat the first line......

you are not alone. i too have a mom very similar. there is just not enough room or time to tell you about it. the competition thing runs so rampant in my family. i still do argue w/my mom, but at a very minimum. you see, there has been a trust issue broken between us and i have become very independent of my family. i love my mother and have grown to understand she will not change into what i want, she has grown quite a lot in recent years though. for that, i am proud. there is always the inner child in me that desperately wants an apology and for her to finally be proud of me, i guess thats why i still sometimes do argue w/her. time and distance did heal some of this (not miles distance, she actually lives kind of close, oh and the serenity prayer-big time). anyhow, i do have children and there is no way i could ever look them in the face and say that i would have an easier time seeing... i can't even type it. rest assured you have someone in your corner who does understand though, my mom once told me she loved her dog more than me...no she never apologized and i don't think she ever will. its so hard when your own mother says these kind of things. you are wonderful, you don't have to have children to prove it, because you too, were a child yourself once...her child. and i know its hard, but don't stress yourself by bringing the books out to prove yourself (man, you sound so much like me), just try to listen more than talk, be confident in yourself by just observing them blabber about whatever they want and talk about anything but nursing...if they ask about something related to it, give a "yes" or "no" or "i don't know" answer, be kind though as to not stir up trouble, as the saying goes "kill them (not literally) with kindness. ok, sorry, i tend to go on and on. hope this helps and if you ever need to vent, you can contact me, you know where to find me. :icon_hug:

ring in the new year with a great sense of pride in yourself!!! :clpty:*wine2009!!!

god grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change, the courage to change the things i can, and the wisdom to know the difference. is that the prayer? it does help.

Specializes in Psychiatry.
It may be a little harsh but the unhealthiness only goes away completely if you drop them. Not necessarily forever but long enough for them to realize that you don't need them or their behavior.

Not saying it's the best way but dropping my mother for 2 years let her know that anymore nonsense and I was apt to walk. For good.

No one has a right to make you feel bad. Not even family.

Well said!

Specializes in LTC, Hospice, corrections, +.

Listen to Stanley and protect yourself from toxic people. They can be so damaging and draining in ways you don't even realize. Too bad it is the people closest to you who should be supportive of you. Stay strong.

Specializes in Developmentally Disabled, LTC, Clinic, Hospital.
I have always said that we put the funk in dysfunctional.

Thats funny, I've always said we put the FUN in dysfunctional. :smokin: Maybe it really is more the FUNK!!

I can relate to your post immensely. My mom would take healthcare advice from dog if he could talk before she would listen to me. Fortunately for me, (and her!) I have a really good report with her doctor and he will listen to what I tell him about s/s of whatever her illness is and go from there. He lets her talk, then I fill in the blanks. Its kinda fun because we can use more jargon and she doesn't really catch what we are saying. It frustrates me to no end that she can't/won't believe me when *I* tell her something, but you can bet your bottom dollar if the neighbor says "Hey, I had that, you need this" she is all over it!! :banghead:

Moms.... can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em!! lol

Specializes in Oncology, Cardiology, ER, L/D.

Wow, Angelfire, I am so sorry that she said that to you. I too, have some Mom issues like a lot of people that I have posted. I am probably the co-dependent poster child at this point. It is hard when someone that is supposed to love you unconditionally says hurtful things like that and my heart hurt for you just reading your post. I think I would just want to kick your cousin right in the teeth, definitely sounds like jealousy issue there,(Duh). Like Stanley said, can you break away from these people for awhile and give yourself a break? Good luck to you and lots of hugs.

Specializes in Oncology, Cardiology, ER, L/D.

Moms.... can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em!! lol

Amen!:D

Angelfire, it would be good for you to get some counselling just to help you deal with these freaks that happen to be family members. Unfortunately, sometimes distancing yourself completely from these family members is the only way to save yourself. I've had to do this with my father. I don't even know where he is right now, and frankly I no longer care. I hear from him about once every six months or so. He will never change and the relationship will never get better. So I've let go of it. If I hadn't, I'd be as nutty as he is.

Specializes in ICU.

You cant choose your family. And if you could, I bet you would choose better! Thats awful that she would say anything like that. I really dont know what to say, just that alot of people are idiots. Just know that YOU know whos the real winner!

Specializes in Psychiatry.

I just started therapy this last summer to deal with the multitude of issues I have with my mother.

It has been painful, but one of the best decisions I have ever made.

I am to the point where I am trying to decide IF I want to continue a relationship with my mother, and if

so, there are going to be some serious boundaries. If she can't deal with them, then oh well. Her problem,

not mine.

I've let my mother s*** on me far too many years. I'm just figuring this out at 38 years old....

I wish you the all best and you work to cope with your situation. :heartbeat

Best,

Diane

Specializes in Clinicals.
Never mind that some of these people that have kids, I wouldn't let them water my houseplants. :no:

LMAO!!! Amen to that:yeah:

I had huge issues with my mother that i allowed to affect my health and after a few years (20 years) of various abuse, emotional, physical and mental, i had a breakdown. When i got myself back together a little, with the support of my fiance, i dropped my mother. I have nothing to do with her, no cards,presents,phonce calls nada. She also has no contact with my daughter as i dont want a nasty person like that anywhere near my daughter.

It wasnt worth my health, time or effort.

Im better than her, ive learned to love myself and anyone who doesnt love me can go whistle. I will not go down that path again, i value my health

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