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It has been noticed that due to mass media and just general word of mouth that there is a HUGE number of people scrambling to get into nursing school any way they can. I just wanted to provide a little information for those of you who are considering it and dismiss some myths that you have probably heard.

However, if nursing is what you really want to do in your heart, this is not meant to discourage you, just to provide a realistic view of the current nursing trends.

#1 There will always be a job for you

This is not necessarily true unless you have the ability to relocate on a whim's notice, even then, no guarantees.

I am a new graduate RN and have many former classmates who live in the bay area of california. They are currently working as LVN's or not at all. Many of them are unable to find jobs, and I know that the bay area is not the only area that has this problem. It has taken me three months of job hunting to obtain employment, and I started searching for a job two months prior to graduation. By the way, it is not my dream job, it's a med-surg night shift every other weekend. I am actually a lucky one.

#2 You can work in a lot of different areas right away

Don't I wish! Some places will hire new graduate RN's in their dream area. But certain state regulations can vary. For example, in California there is a law that states a nurse must have a year of experience to even be hired in hospice. Some facilities require a year or more experience for specialty units. And you will probably be competing against other nurses for those sought-after positions.

Also, all those travel jobs that I know most pre-nursing students google (I know this, I did it too!) are reserved for experienced nurses, usually several years of experience is recommended if not required. You don't want to go onto a floor you're not familiar with and have a patient crash on you and not even know where the crash cart if or what the hospital protocol is.

#3 Nurses make really good money

They make average salary for as long as the schooling takes to complete. Most people who go the traditional route are going to realize that an associate's degree of nursing even takes four years to complete. 2 years prerequisites and applying, then another 2 years of nursing school. Same amount of time as the average bachelor's degree. The salary may be a bit more, but you are giving up your weekends, your nights, the typical mon-fri normal job life. If you plan on having a family, or if you want to take a weekend trip, it's not going to happen that often. The main part of the "shortage" anyway would be hospital med/surg nurses who are willing to work nights/weekends.

Even more so, many do not realize the emotional and physical exhaustion nursing brings. As an LVN, I have had MANY shifts where lunches did not happen, breaks did not happen, and going home and hitting the bed was all I wanted to do. Not every job is like this, but it happens. If your patient is dying it's not like you can leave the bedside to go eat an apple. Nursing school will give you a crash course in how much of a luxury sleep is in nursing.

#4 You can live anywhere (exotic place, whatever)

Each state has different licensing requirements as well as different "needs" for nurses. California right now, many graduates cannot find work. If you had the dream of moving to California after nursing school, it is not likely to happen because many hospitals are refusing to even look at candidates who are not locals, because they are even turning many locals away for jobs.

Also, if you planned on moving to another country, different countries have licensing requirements, and many of their nurses come here because the salary/cost of living ratio is better in many states.

#5 Nursing is a safe job

It is, if you work at an office job. You can get a back injury from lifting heavy patients (yes nurses lift their patients!) An injury from a patient, whether intentional or accidental. I have had a patient grab an insulin syringe from me and attempt to stab me with it. There are many precautions you can take to make the job safer, but the risks are still present.

I'm sure there are more myths out there, this is just a few of the one's that I see all the time. I actually believed them at one point too. Anyway, good luck to those of you out there who really want to be nurses!

I didn't get the impression that you don't like your job at all; you were simply being

realistic!

And, yes, even in Texas, there are nurses in search of jobs; I know; I am one (LVN) and that's why I'm going back for my RN, to be able to get a job!

And, yes, you were so on point on all the points you made!

Wow...not sure what to offer up. New grads...unless you have setup yourself for a position wishing for it wont happen. A majority of the new Grads want Mother baby and L&D...the hospital cant have all new grads in one department. Now, hospitals need experience personnel...after a year that will be you. But you got to pay your dues. Med/Surg (new grad) welcoming dept, step down units or where every you can get in. I havent started nursing school an I know where I'm going to work.

Everyone have their fantasies about what they want to do, what there schedules will be like, hopefullly after a while those fantasies will turn into goals. Just like you probably fantasized about being a nurse...but in order to be a nursing you had to complete certain steps along the way. Dont be discourage, just set some goals.

You know GA has the same problem it is hard to get any type of job here. I figure I went through too much to get this so I am not turning away now.

I also think that part of the problem, is the economy for one, and lack of educators for the other. I never know it to take four years for a two year degree though. I am working on my preq. and I should be done within a year and then my other course will be about two years, at least that was my impressions.

Nursing is a second career for my I have 20 years accounting and finance, I want to work bedside for maybe around 10 years and develop my own agency. I worked adminstrative health on the finance end, and interviewed with a nurse who did this very same thing, and was extermely please, and she was able to retire, without working at the bedside for ever, the only thing is that most states require that a RN is part of the board of directors.

I guess it depends on how you plan on using your RN, I do expect to put in my bumps and bruises along the way. Several other nurses make the suggestion of seeking employment before you graduate so that maybe a ave for all of us.

I also believe it all depends on where you live. I live in the Boston area, so I'm hopeful to have a decent job. I do see your points and I appreciate your being the "devil's advocate" as someone else has said.

I do notice that most places do not like to take new grads. I can see that new grads may end up getting the not so desired night shifts until they get the experience they need. Thankfully, I'm happy to work nights. I go to work, come home take the kids to school, sleep, pick the kids up and spend time with them, along with my husband and then go to work again.

Thanks for the info~

Served over 10yrs in the military. I think I'll be okay. I try not to absorb too much negative energy. School is stressful enough without taking on someone else's views and generalizations.:twocents: I know it's not going to be tea and roses. Just like I did grunt work in the beginning of my first career, I expect to start at the bottom again. Most of the people I'm in school with are on the same level of thinking. I have no clue what type of nursing I truly want to do. I'm open to what comes. I know where I'd like to end up, but I'm open to whatever road will get me there.

Specializes in Med-Surg; ER; ICU/CCU/SHU; PAR.

I think that most of your difficulty lies in the fact that you're pursuing employment in the great state of California, I'm afraid.

Let me offer a word of wisdom gained by many years of experience to all you pre-nursing students and new grads to be: always remember that your first job is just that...it's your first job. Nursing shortages are nothing new. Neither are nursing job shortages. When I went into nursing school, there was a shortage of nurses, they said. When I got out of nursing school, I wanted to work in peds...I couldn't find a job to save my life, and this was in Chicago! I took the job they offered me...in geriatrics. (A far cry from my dream job of pediatrics, don't you think??!) :cry: Did I like it? No. Did I give it everything I had and do my best? You bet I did. A year later I was able to transfer off that unit and onto a cardiac step-down unit...not because there was suddenly a shortage again, but because I was now able to claim a year of nursing experience. A year after that I was working in the ICU, and a year after that my dh and I moved to the 'burbs and I could pretty much have the job of my choice anywhere I wanted. :yeah: But as a new grad in ANY profession, you need to be prepared to take an entry-level job. Be flexible, be willing to take what is available to get your foot in the door, and spend that first year learning. Believe me, when you graduate from nursing school, you are not ready to "fly" as a nurse! You are ready to go in and deliver basic, basic care without hurting anyone, hopefully! Nursing is something you learn largely on the job. So that first year of being an "RN" is still an extension of your schooling, if you will. Treat it as such, give it your all, get good peer reviews from your preceptor and your manager, and THEN you will have the resume that will allow you to get the job that you really want.

Best to you all!

Lori:nurse:

Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.

I'm getting ready to graduate in a couple of months and if I was willing to work in any area of a hospital, I would have already been hired.

However there is only two departments that I want to work in...and I am willing to move where those jobs are.

It has been noticed that due to mass media and just general word of mouth that there is a HUGE number of people scrambling to get into nursing school any way they can. I just wanted to provide a little information for those of you who are considering it and dismiss some myths that you have probably heard.

However, if nursing is what you really want to do in your heart, this is not meant to discourage you, just to provide a realistic view of the current nursing trends.

#1 There will always be a job for you

This is not necessarily true unless you have the ability to relocate on a whim's notice, even then, no guarantees.

I am a new graduate RN and have many former classmates who live in the bay area of california. They are currently working as LVN's or not at all. Many of them are unable to find jobs, and I know that the bay area is not the only area that has this problem. It has taken me three months of job hunting to obtain employment, and I started searching for a job two months prior to graduation. By the way, it is not my dream job, it's a med-surg night shift every other weekend. I am actually a lucky one.

#2 You can work in a lot of different areas right away

Don't I wish! Some places will hire new graduate RN's in their dream area. But certain state regulations can vary. For example, in California there is a law that states a nurse must have a year of experience to even be hired in hospice. Some facilities require a year or more experience for specialty units. And you will probably be competing against other nurses for those sought-after positions.

Also, all those travel jobs that I know most pre-nursing students google (I know this, I did it too!) are reserved for experienced nurses, usually several years of experience is recommended if not required. You don't want to go onto a floor you're not familiar with and have a patient crash on you and not even know where the crash cart if or what the hospital protocol is.

#3 Nurses make really good money

They make average salary for as long as the schooling takes to complete. Most people who go the traditional route are going to realize that an associate's degree of nursing even takes four years to complete. 2 years prerequisites and applying, then another 2 years of nursing school. Same amount of time as the average bachelor's degree. The salary may be a bit more, but you are giving up your weekends, your nights, the typical mon-fri normal job life. If you plan on having a family, or if you want to take a weekend trip, it's not going to happen that often. The main part of the "shortage" anyway would be hospital med/surg nurses who are willing to work nights/weekends.

Even more so, many do not realize the emotional and physical exhaustion nursing brings. As an LVN, I have had MANY shifts where lunches did not happen, breaks did not happen, and going home and hitting the bed was all I wanted to do. Not every job is like this, but it happens. If your patient is dying it's not like you can leave the bedside to go eat an apple. Nursing school will give you a crash course in how much of a luxury sleep is in nursing.

#4 You can live anywhere (exotic place, whatever)

Each state has different licensing requirements as well as different "needs" for nurses. California right now, many graduates cannot find work. If you had the dream of moving to California after nursing school, it is not likely to happen because many hospitals are refusing to even look at candidates who are not locals, because they are even turning many locals away for jobs.

Also, if you planned on moving to another country, different countries have licensing requirements, and many of their nurses come here because the salary/cost of living ratio is better in many states.

#5 Nursing is a safe job

It is, if you work at an office job. You can get a back injury from lifting heavy patients (yes nurses lift their patients!) An injury from a patient, whether intentional or accidental. I have had a patient grab an insulin syringe from me and attempt to stab me with it. There are many precautions you can take to make the job safer, but the risks are still present.

I'm sure there are more myths out there, this is just a few of the one's that I see all the time. I actually believed them at one point too. Anyway, good luck to those of you out there who really want to be nurses!

Great post!

And as for Texas, I have nurse friends in there who are having a very hard time finding employment. Nursing jobs are not plentiful all over TX.

Specializes in Pediatric Pulmonology and Allergy.

I am preparing to begin an Accelerated BSN program in the summer. It took me 2.5 years to get to this point; I'm not backing down now!!!

I am prepared to do what it takes to go through the program and get my BSN. After that, I will see what's available. I'd love to work Peds, L&D or Psych, not settled on a favorite yet, but if none of those three work out I'll take what I can get. Having an RN/BSN opens up so many doors for future opportunities and education, even if the $$$ jobs don't line up immediately. Do you know how many highly educated professionals take low-paying jobs straight out of school?

I thought about many different careers and I couldn't think of anything that was as challenging, demanding, interesting, exciting, full of opportunity and yet attainable, as nursing.

Specializes in Gyn/STD clinic tech.

maybe it's the 100mg of zoloft a day, i have been on it for years, but i love med/surg.. hehe.i also would prefer to work nights and weekends, like fri/sat/sun night.

i am not religious, so i can work every holiday..

maybe that will make me more marketable as a new grad rn.. :)

Specializes in Wilderness Medicine, ICU, Adult Ed..

It is called, "paying your dues;" taking night shifts, weekends, and holidays on a med-surg floor. This is common in all professions. You will spend a few years on the bottom of the totem pole, perfecting your skills and knowledge. The better positions are out there, but you have to work your way up to them.

As for non-nurses considering nursing school, I always recommend that they do some volunteer work in a hospital. Let the nurses know that you are considering the profession, and ask them to let you work closely with them. That is how you see nursing in the real world.

It bad in Tucson my hospital has a hiring freeze and another TMC is not even hiring the new grads whos schooling they paid for!

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