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It has been noticed that due to mass media and just general word of mouth that there is a HUGE number of people scrambling to get into nursing school any way they can. I just wanted to provide a little information for those of you who are considering it and dismiss some myths that you have probably heard.
However, if nursing is what you really want to do in your heart, this is not meant to discourage you, just to provide a realistic view of the current nursing trends.
#1 There will always be a job for you
This is not necessarily true unless you have the ability to relocate on a whim's notice, even then, no guarantees.
I am a new graduate RN and have many former classmates who live in the bay area of california. They are currently working as LVN's or not at all. Many of them are unable to find jobs, and I know that the bay area is not the only area that has this problem. It has taken me three months of job hunting to obtain employment, and I started searching for a job two months prior to graduation. By the way, it is not my dream job, it's a med-surg night shift every other weekend. I am actually a lucky one.
#2 You can work in a lot of different areas right away
Don't I wish! Some places will hire new graduate RN's in their dream area. But certain state regulations can vary. For example, in California there is a law that states a nurse must have a year of experience to even be hired in hospice. Some facilities require a year or more experience for specialty units. And you will probably be competing against other nurses for those sought-after positions.
Also, all those travel jobs that I know most pre-nursing students google (I know this, I did it too!) are reserved for experienced nurses, usually several years of experience is recommended if not required. You don't want to go onto a floor you're not familiar with and have a patient crash on you and not even know where the crash cart if or what the hospital protocol is.
#3 Nurses make really good money
They make average salary for as long as the schooling takes to complete. Most people who go the traditional route are going to realize that an associate's degree of nursing even takes four years to complete. 2 years prerequisites and applying, then another 2 years of nursing school. Same amount of time as the average bachelor's degree. The salary may be a bit more, but you are giving up your weekends, your nights, the typical mon-fri normal job life. If you plan on having a family, or if you want to take a weekend trip, it's not going to happen that often. The main part of the "shortage" anyway would be hospital med/surg nurses who are willing to work nights/weekends.
Even more so, many do not realize the emotional and physical exhaustion nursing brings. As an LVN, I have had MANY shifts where lunches did not happen, breaks did not happen, and going home and hitting the bed was all I wanted to do. Not every job is like this, but it happens. If your patient is dying it's not like you can leave the bedside to go eat an apple. Nursing school will give you a crash course in how much of a luxury sleep is in nursing.
#4 You can live anywhere (exotic place, whatever)
Each state has different licensing requirements as well as different "needs" for nurses. California right now, many graduates cannot find work. If you had the dream of moving to California after nursing school, it is not likely to happen because many hospitals are refusing to even look at candidates who are not locals, because they are even turning many locals away for jobs.
Also, if you planned on moving to another country, different countries have licensing requirements, and many of their nurses come here because the salary/cost of living ratio is better in many states.
#5 Nursing is a safe job
It is, if you work at an office job. You can get a back injury from lifting heavy patients (yes nurses lift their patients!) An injury from a patient, whether intentional or accidental. I have had a patient grab an insulin syringe from me and attempt to stab me with it. There are many precautions you can take to make the job safer, but the risks are still present.
I'm sure there are more myths out there, this is just a few of the one's that I see all the time. I actually believed them at one point too. Anyway, good luck to those of you out there who really want to be nurses!
Shoot not this winter. It has been very very mild. Amazingly, summer was pretty mild as well. My first winter here was 06/07 that is when we had like 5 blizzards in 4 weeks and DIA was shut down, I am told that isn't common for my area which is about an hour north of Denver. though, but that it does happen about every 4/5 years. This week it's in the 70's, just in time for Spring Break!When I left SD I left going through Spearfish Canyon, it reminded me so much of Washington, just so beautiful!
Where is your wife from?
Sorry it took me so long to reply - I don't check these every day....
My wife happens to be from Malaysia - a great little country, lots of cultural diversity (sort of a mix of Malay, Chinese, and east Indian cultures - my wife is east Indian) but it's sort of a blank spot on most American's consciousness LOL. The most frequent question I get from most people is "Where's Malaysia?" - they've never heard of it most of the time. Ask a Brit where Malaysia is, and they know right away since it's part of the Commonwealth (my wife speaks with a Brit-sounding accent)
I would ask you to be specific. Name the hospitals that still have new grad programs and how many openings. Kaiser has a hiring freeze (and not just for new grads) and I know of nowhere that still has sign up bonuses. Give us the names of the recruiters you spoke with that had unfilled new grad positions with sign up bonuses. Tis would be really useful information. i mean are they giving you different answers than so many other posting here are getting? I get the impression by your name that you are male. Are you an active job seeking new grad?
Or are you referring to the past?
I know on the Massachusetts board dicussions alot of nurses can agree with the OP and are having similar problems finding jobs. I have spoken personally with new grads too and they are having a hard time finding work. I have a friend who graduated with an ADN last May and it took her 8 months to find a job. She ended up taking a position in our neighbor state of Rhode Island and hates it. Believe me when I say she worked so hard for many years just to get this degree in hopes that it would pay off. I was always under the impression that you are offered jobs before you even graduate but I guess this is not the case. I have also started to find out that many positions are going to start requiring a BSN instead of a ADN. This is all very discouraging but I am still going to persue my degree because I have invested so much time and energy and I really want to do it for the job itself not the so called "perks" that go with it. I guess I will keep my expectations low.
I am thinking about going into Nursing School, but don't want to waste 4 years in college so I'm thinking of becoming LPN first then become a RN. If I start with LPN I don't need pre-req classes right? But will I need them later when I do want to become a Registered Nurse? Can someone answer this for me please and thanks.
I am thinking about going into Nursing School, but don't want to wast 4 years in college so I'm thinking of becoming LPN first then becoming a RN. If I start with LPN I don't ned pre-req classes right? But will I need them later when I do want to become a Registered Nurse? Can someone answer this for me please and thanks.
I believe you need pre-reqs when you go to college whether it is for LPN or RN. You do not need pre-reqs if you go to a vocational school for LPN but will need to take them if you wish to go on to the RN. I plan to take them a little at a time online after I graduate as an LPN.
Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong :-)
Kim
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Unfortunately, I live in the less populated areas of California (or shall I say fortunately?) and we have very little opportunity here, unless I want to drive 3 hours. So I must drive to Reno Nv, (right to work state, no benefits in my last 5 jobs) or drive to other small communities in California who have run out their other nurses from poor management. It just seems the majority of DON's are mean and nasty.
If I want money, I have to go per diem and give up benefits. If I want benefits, I have to go for low pay ($16/hr in some places. )