do you ever just wanna yell..."Would you SHUT UP already???"

[coltsgrl]

I guess there's always gotta be one in every class, you know they type that can't resist saying..."well I work at such-n-such place and we do it this way...." ON EVERY TOPIC!!! or ask 20 questions where all the answers from the teacher are "yes" because it's some elementary ? that they are just asking to let everyone know they already know something. Im gonna start bringing water balloons to class and throwing 'em at people who can't SHUT UP!!! :chuckle

oh and btw....can y'all quit tappin and clickin your pens!!!!! :angthts:

feel free to add your frustrations, and what should be done with these people!

[ambil]

No offense, but I would never tell anyone they were "annoying" me. If someone told me that I would tell them the fact they put it that way annoyed me! And who wins? Nobody. It's okay to feel the way you do and express it on these boards but when you start pushing your feelings off on someone else, it just makes everyone feel bad. It's the same with the sighs and the looks in class. You shouldn't bring everyone else down because you are feeling a certain way. It's a little selfish, don't you think? No one should have to "act" the way you want them to and most people will NOT act the way you want them to. It's part of professionalism to deal with different people and different ways people do things. Is it always pleasant? No. Is it really up to you to want to change the way a person behaves? No. Just my two cents. :wink2:

Yes, I feel it is up to me in certain situations to help a person 1) become aware of his behavior on others and 2) to help him or her change for the better. That's one of the reasons students are put together with experienced nurses in the first place, right? I'm not doing any student any good by babying him. Being able to take critisism is a part of making it in this world, especially in the nursing/medical profession. No one buttered my path along the way and for the most part I'm grateful. If I really wouldn't say anything about an annoying student then what would it bring? This poor thing would continue to stumble about, getting laughed or talked about behind her back because no one else was....courageous(?) enough to want to help. I want to help these people and simply said, sometimes the truth hurts but at least it is the truth. Students like to work with me at the station where I work. We laugh alot amongst ourselves and with the patients. I'm known to have a very strong sense of humor, which helps smooth the "positive critisism" that I share. I suppose I have a strong mother instinct, ha, and try to cradle these newbies under my wing and help them learn to fly better. Stupid analogy, I know!:imbar When I think back over the years I can only remember one student who was not impressed with my observations. :chuckleShe was so thoroughly convinced of her superhuman powers that she drove the whole station batty, patients too. But I don't regret telling her what we all thought the problem was, somebody had to. She was making a fool out of herself. I wasn't worried about her not likeing me in the end. I did the right thing and hopefully she grew up a little bit and learned about herself in the process. :igtsyt: We all seem to be able to say what we really want on this thread, well, why not in person too?

[chaxanmom]

When I was in school I resolved that type of behavior by only showing up for necessary classes and for tests. My attendance was pitiful; but, my grades were top of the class, so the school couldn't say much. However, one one class, I was downgraded from an A (based on grades) to a B+ because of poor attendance. I just told everyone that I can't learn in the type of environement they had and was had a solitary learning style. For the few classes that had attendance policies, I sat in the back and studied or did homework.

Wait to you finish school and enter the wonderful world of nursing to really see rude, offensive and gang type of behavior.

That's the beauty of distance education. You don't have to deal with that stuff.

[justme1972]

Yes, I feel it is up to me in certain situations to help a person 1) become aware of his behavior on others and 2) to help him or her change for the better. That's one of the reasons students are put together with experienced nurses in the first place, right?

Yes, but the word "annoy" is not a professional way to encourage someone to change their behavior...I can think of alot of other ways you could have approached that same situation and got the same result.

I probably would have said (and I also wouldn't have made reference to the fact she was young either..."new" is a better term b/c age has nothing to do with ability), "Hey, I know you are still new around here, but what you'll eventually learn is that each nurse has their own way of doing things and we each have our own reasons for doing so based on experience...eventually you will find your own preference. You may want to be careful in comparing senior nurses to other nurses because it can be easily misinterpreted as you suggesting they are wrong, and they may not be very nice about it."

Then, you may want to ask her WHY she has this need to point that out...maybe it's a question in disguise.

For example, during my internship I would say, "Hey, I saw Susie do that the other day and she did it this way....but I see you are doing it another way...is there a benefit/con to one or the other?"

I never once had a RN get offended over that...in fact, they were happy to explain why they choose that particular method.

I would always end it with, "Hey, I really appreciate you explaining it to me...I just like learning from the different nurses and find it interesting and I'm trying to learn from everyone while I'm here."

I have a feeling that is what your student is probably getting at...just verbalizing it poorly.

[ambil]

Yes, but the word "annoy" is not a professional way to encourage someone to change their behavior...I can think of alot of other ways you could have approached that same situation and got the same result.

I probably would have said (and I also wouldn't have made reference to the fact she was young either..."new" is a better term b/c age has nothing to do with ability), "Hey, I know you are still new around here, but what you'll eventually learn is that each nurse has their own way of doing things and we each have our own reasons for doing so based on experience...eventually you will find your own preference. You may want to be careful in comparing senior nurses to other nurses because it can be easily misinterpreted as you suggesting they are wrong, and they may not be very nice about it."

Then, you may want to ask her WHY she has this need to point that out...maybe it's a question in disguise.

For example, during my internship I would say, "Hey, I saw Susie do that the other day and she did it this way....but I see you are doing it another way...is there a benefit/con to one or the other?"

I never once had a RN get offended over that...in fact, they were happy to explain why they choose that particular method.

I would always end it with, "Hey, I really appreciate you explaining it to me...I just like learning from the different nurses and find it interesting and I'm trying to learn from everyone while I'm here."

I have a feeling that is what your student is probably getting at...just verbalizing it poorly.

Good point with asking a student why she has this need to point such things out. I'll remember that. And I didn't actually use the word "annoy". I work in Germany so am speaking german-good grief! That's a a barrel of laughs sometimes... I said translated into english..."I don't really like it when you compare me with nurse so and so, it kinna bugs me." (A softer form of annoy-ha) In any case, it's true that some of the younger,opps, new ones are just expressing themselves without thinking first. But I can also say that some of them are just being little sassy pants and trying to show off! Tomorrow I have a new student on my tour...give me strength!!

[Me, SN]

The instructor that I have happens to be the one who never, EVER stops talking...I keep a migraine...

We don't go to the same school do we? lol Last quarter I had an instructor who's test questions were so hard, NO ONE got an A, and only a handful (in 80 students) got a B, and many people dropped out or failed. This woman would go on and on about her family (telling a lot of stories more than once) and the stupidest things like the Mickey Mouse club and read to us from an old novel about critical thinking instead of engaging us in some sort of learning process about the reading we had. None of the lectures made sense, but you had to go to them for the class participation points because you'd never pass if you didn't show up and every point counted (most people got through teetering on the edge of failing).

The "stupid" questions to her, were questions on the chapters. I remember one girl asking a relevant question once or twice and getting some flippant remark about reading the chapter over again. Yeah...I'll stick to the stupid questions by students in a class with an intelligent teacher. :chuckle I have this same instructor again in January and I'm not looking foward to it.

[ajessrn, BSN, RN]

oh yes, there is always at least one person who you know is just talking to be talking. and they take up way too much lecture time talking about a work related incident they know about that really didn't add to your knowledge about the topic at all. or their family member that had this or that happen to them. i have actually had instructors interrupt that type of student so they could get back to the lecture...it is nerve racking. there is a difference between being and active particpant in class and just being annoying.

[Laughs-a-lot, RN]

ok. wher I work, we had to take a class on the new ekg machines because everything went computerized. pretty cool, I can log on and see all of my patients past ekg's to compare. Mind you the "assumption" being that all of the nurses already know how to perform an ekg, they just need to learn the computer part of it. So, she shows us (only 2 of us in our group that morning) how to do it, hands-on. The other person was a 70 yr old LPN, and maybe thay didn't teach lead placement to LPN's back then, but after working 13 hrs that night, what was supposed to take 20 mins, took almost 2 hrs. Most of it concentrating on the lead placement. I don't know know if she just likes to get attention by acting stupid, or if she needs to retire, but my gosh, take a private lesson and let me go home already. I need to start screening class lists before I sign up.

[Agrippa]

Yes. They're called "Gunners".

[tma0312]

The one thing that really irks me is the person who asks a question and while you are trying to explain it, constantly interrupts with random information or starts talking to someone else. Or starts asking another question before you finish answering! oh my goodness, it drives me up the wall

[cursedandblessed]

Oh def there's one in every class. I'd love to scream I don't care how they do it in your hospital, I don't care how your friend the EMT does it. Every lecture we get stuck listening to her.

All I want to know is how my instructors expect me to perform my duties, I don't want to listen to some self-absorbed persons tales of gore and misinformation. My problem is if I tune her out, then I have trouble tuning back in once the instructor is finally able to take back control of the class.

[Mexarican]

Yup, to several classmates and some instructors!

Mex

"Don't Tase Me Bro!"

[Mexarican]

It's a myth...THERE IS A SUCH THING AS A STUPID QUESTION!! LOL

Mex