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Dr. told patient, "Nurses are STUPID".

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by Daetwin2 Daetwin2 (New) New

I am not easily offended and l let things roll off my back. The P.A. was making rounds the other day and walked into one of my patients room. I heard the patient ask, "A nurse came into my room at 3a.m. and put something in my IV. I have no idea what it was." The P.A. came out of the room and asked me what it was. I told him I was not sure, but I would find out and let him know. I followed that up with, I'm sure it was important if it was 3a.m. He smiled and thanked me, and walked back into the patients room. I heard him say, "you know, Nurses are stupid. They think if they are awake at 3 a.m. then you should be too." It was probably a flush to make sure the IV is still working. Anyhow, I'll find out fore sure." My mouth hit the floor. At that very moment, I remembered in report the nurse tell me the pt had a Bigeminy rhythm and he was given IV Mag, which corrected it. I quickly walked into the patients room and explained to the pt and P.A. what was given and why. The P.A. responded with a great big smile on his face, "See, I knew we would find out!" I still get pissed every time I think about it. I am a very quiet, non-confrontational person, but let me tell you....I can spit out a sarcastic comment that will make your head spin when I feel the need. I am feeling the need!

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Here.I.Stand, BSN, RN

Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro. Has 16 years experience.

He must sorely lack confidence in himself, if he feels the need to undermine others on the care team like that. :madface:

Does he make you call him "doctor" cuz he isn't one. :sour: What a putz!

The immature part of me wishes you would have said, "......magnesium for an abnormal heart rhythm, not for just any ol' stupid reason. Can I get you fresh ice?"

SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

Wellll A "PA" is NOT a doctor is he? And Nurses are NOT stupid.

Why does your thread title say "Dr." when the text says "PA"? Deliberately disingenuous? Click bait?

TheCommuter, BSN, RN

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych. Has 15 years experience.

After explaining what the 3:00am IV medication was for, I probably would have said, "See! Nurses are not as stupid as you make them out to be!"

Anyhow, the PA may lack intellectual horsepower since he is not a doctor. Stupid?

datalore

Specializes in Cardiac/Tele.

Patients are smart too -- the unprofessional comments made by any member of the care team are not lost on them. I'm sure nurses won some brownie points in the patient's eyes that shift. Kudos to you for not throwing in a jab in front of the patient and making the patient feel like a pawn in the middle of the PA's one-sided power struggle! ;)

Sour Lemon

Has 9 years experience.

I've heard nurses say horrible things about doctors to patients, as well.

Been there,done that, ASN, RN

Has 33 years experience.

As you are not a nurse, this question from the P.A., should have been directed to one.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma. Has 41 years experience.

For me I don't care if it was a Dr. or PA.....If I over heard that I would definitely let it be known that I heard. I would smile sweetly and look him/her in the eye in front of the patient...."Well, Mr 3 O'clockam....I found out that the medicine was for you heart having some extra skipped beats and we gave you MgSO4 to make it better.....do you need anything else from this stupid nurse right now? I am needed in another room.

quazar

Has 20 years experience.

That is called disruptive behavior and I have written up a provider for very similar behavior before. The provider who did it to me at least said the nasty things to my face, though, not all passive aggressive behind my back. So childish.

He is not a doctor, as in physician. He is a PA, The ASSISTANT (EXTENDER) of the physician. He is also a rude *******!

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I would be upset too. PAs need someone to pick on, because they don't get respect from doctors either...

Irish_Mist, BSN, RN

Specializes in Cardicac Neuro Telemetry. Has 100 years experience.

I am not easily offended and l let things roll off my back. The P.A. was making rounds the other day and walked into one of my patients room. I heard the patient ask, "A nurse came into my room at 3a.m. and put something in my IV. I have no idea what it was." The P.A. came out of the room and asked me what it was. I told him I was not sure, but I would find out and let him know. I followed that up with, I'm sure it was important if it was 3a.m. He smiled and thanked me, and walked back into the patients room. I heard him say, "you know, Nurses are stupid. They think if they are awake at 3 a.m. then you should be too." It was probably a flush to make sure the IV is still working. Anyhow, I'll find out fore sure." My mouth hit the floor. At that very moment, I remembered in report the nurse tell me the pt had a Bigeminy rhythm and he was given IV Mag, which corrected it. I quickly walked into the patients room and explained to the pt and P.A. what was given and why. The P.A. responded with a great big smile on his face, "See, I knew we would find out!" I still get pissed every time I think about it. I am a very quiet, non-confrontational person, but let me tell you....I can spit out a sarcastic comment that will make your head spin when I feel the need. I am feeling the need!

This behavior is unacceptable for two reasons. One, it is showing a lack of respect for colleagues. Two, it jeopardizes the confidence patients have in their nurses. This patient was either completely put off by how much of a jerk this guy is or became extremely worried at the thought of "stupid nurses" caring for him/her.

Report this PA for disruptive behavior. It'll behoove management to do something about it since he said something to a PATIENT!

la_chica_suerte85, BSN, RN

Specializes in Pediatric Hematology/Oncology.

He meant that nurses are "stupid hot." Hey-yoooooooh!:lol2:

I work with Surgeons all the time and some can be notorious for their negative / sarcastic remarks about staff. There's 2 ways to respond in my opinion..

What "TheCommuter" suggested..

In a playful but call them out on their behavior type of way..

or pull them to the side and let them know their comment/behavior is not appreciated and UNACCEPTABLE. (Especially since it was said in front of a patient)

You need to let it be known that you overheard it and that it is not acceptable. People act this way because they get away with it. Any respectable professional that is worthy of being respected will respect your efforts and intentions. I remind myself this when face with these type of challenges.

Davey Do

Specializes in around 25 years psych, 10 years medical. Has 42 years experience.

Every action which is the result of an emotion stems from either love or fear. If we remember that, we will understand the reason for other's behavior.

He must sorely lack confidence in himself, if he feels the need to undermine others on the care team like that. :madface:

Here.I.Stand hit the nail on the head right out of the gate. An attempt at putting others down in order for one to feel better about themselves is clearly a sign of low self-esteem.

In order for one to elevate their self-esteem, it is done through introspection and a change of consciousness. Neither are usually gained through negative confrontation. We don't possess the power to change another.

"My happiness is not a result of what others do or say or what happens around me. My happiness is a result of being at peace with myself."