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ok, just now i was watching dr. phil interveiw a physician who had an affair with a nurse and he said (as close a paraphrase as i can remember from five minutes ago):

"i've worked in the health care delivery system for a long time and i've seen lots of times nurses playing footsie with doctors because they see it as their ticket out of having to work as a nurse".

ok, i'm not going to even get into all the problems with this statement since they are obvious, i am writing the show right now to explain why this is not an acceptable way to desribe a profession.

who's with me?

edited by nurse ratched to add an update on the story:

http://www.nursingadvocacy.org/news/2004nov/30_dr_phil.html

speaking of stereotypes did anyone see Tyra Banks come out in a slutty nurse outfit to hamm it up with taye diggs on America's Next Top Model? it was brief but I thought immediately of this board.

Just a note to say I logged onto the dr. phil site and told him exactly what I thought of his remark. Hoping if enough of us do this it might make a difference. I've always wondered why my dh can't stand Dr. Phil - he says its a gut feeling that he is just a phony. Have to tell him about this remark. I'm still fuming :angryfire

Okay, I think maybe Dr. Phil has hit on the real reason there is a nursing shortage: Those damn doctors keep stealing the nurses off the floor and then they marry 'em and keep 'em at home, pregnant and barefoot.:chuckle

And I have to ask: Are the CNAs waiting for a nurse to save them and take them away? And what of the male nurses out there? are they playing footsies with the female doctors? And as for us traveling nurses, well ya know we email each other as to where the best prospects (doctors) are...kinda like window shopping with sampling along the way.:p

I did email Dr. Phil and ask what was up with his way of thinking and if he would "own" his mistake. Still waiting to hear from him.:coollook:

not all women are anna nicole smith--and certainly not all nurses are!

i think you'd have to be pretty desperate and pretty crazy to go through all the training and all the tushie wiping and bedpan cleaning, all in the hopes of landing some pig who could provide a nice diamond and a big house. (in which case, the pig is going to get what he deserves.....)

as for dr. phil's "affair," i'd like some evidence of some sort--too many people in the public eye get mud thrown at them simply because they are in the public eye......

somebody needs to email him the url to this thread, though.

if he's going to make statements like that, he needs to know better than to say "lots." let's not imply something that can't be backed up.

come to think of it, it does sound like he is letting the pig off the hook, doesn't it? like the poor guy has been trapped by anna nicole rn?

i'm reaching my limit with dr. phil too. jerry springer with a phd and a modicum of audience self-control. defining moments, my a**.

Here is the part that makes me SICK..... exactally what job duty am I relieved of or will the Dr. perform for me if I do play "footsie". People are people. Doc's, pilots, restaruant mgrs etc. male and female flirt and have sex w/ co-workers. Because this lame-a** can't stay faithful just proves he's a jerk. The fact that he doesn't accept responsiblity for his own choices would bother me, even have a working relationship w/ him. I don't make it a habit to watch "do no wrong" Phil, but, I can't believe he didn't call the guy on sucha stupid statment.

I was watching 7th Heaven...the oldest son was a med student who showed up to clinical w/o a stethascope (sp??). The other med students offer to lend him one and the Dr. says "no" grabs one from the nurse walking by and states " you all are going to need yours, the nurse (ER) doesn't need hers" grabs it off of her and hands it over to the student. That was a few weeks ago and it still makes me mad at how we are portrayed.

As sad as what Dr. Phil said, I've seen it happened. Some nurses do play footsies with The Doctors in hope to achieve a higher social status in life. Nursing should be a way of life not just somekind of a job or career. Code of conducts and ethics that applies to nursing should also become our daily norm in life.

I work with one in every unit who innappropriately fawns over the docs when they come onto the unit.. There's always one or two who are actively trying to 'snag a doctor' too and don't mind having affairs with married men. While it doesn't describe 'all' of us, it certainly describes some.

Just another ugly stereotype professional nurses must deal with.

I'm sure there are a few women in every profession who try to 'snag' the eligible, powerful, affluent men.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

I emailed the link to this thread to the Dr. Phil website, and also to two other boards i go to, who have gone off about his comment.

I still do not think that his comment about what HE has seen SOME nurses act before is a blanket statement on how he believes all nurses act. I saw the show where he said it, he didn't say all nurses, he talked about some of the ones he has seen.. My first thought was what a disgrace those nurses are to the nursing profession if that's what happened, and any other nurse who acts like that. Maybe it's judgemental, but oh well.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
I work with one in every unit who innappropriately fawns over the docs when they come onto the unit.. There's always one or two who are actively trying to 'snag a doctor' too and don't mind having affairs with married men. While it doesn't describe 'all' of us, it certainly describes some.

Just another ugly stereotype professional nurses must deal with.

I'm sure there are a few women in every profession who try to 'snag' the eligible, powerful, affluent men.

Golddiggers. Just the other day a good looking doctor walked by the nursing station. I mean this man is fine. A nurse was all over him. I said "forget it, he's happily married". She said "sigh....one of these days I'm going to find me a nice doctor to marry".

I was dumbfounded. I didn't think there were many nurses around like that. But there are. Date and marry a doctor because you like the guy/girl not just because their a doctor. Sheesh.

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I don't understand why Dr. Phil didn't also say something about those doctors who think of the nursing staff as their personal harems? The doc is an innocent victim of those golddigging nurses?

I have only met one nurse who wanted to snag herself a doc. I have met at least three unit secretaries who were trying. Unfortunately, they allowed themselves to be used by the residents and they garnered terrible reputations year after year among the residents.

uhhh...I personally DON'T know any nurses like this. Considering how incredibly difficult and competitive nursing school is, how completely consuming clinicals are and how mind-wracking it is preparing for the NCLEX it would be much easier to meet a doctor working as a waitress in a country club.[/quote

AMEN TO THAT!!!! It is so incredibly difficult just to get IN to nursing school, much less to stay in and succeed. I don't know of anyone in my nursing class who enrolled in the BSN program for the sole reason of snagging a Dr. If a woman worked her butt off to get the GPA just to be eligible to apply, and then basically have no personal life for 5 semesters of clinicals, all for the hopes of a Doctor??!!! I say more power to her then, because she sure did WORK HARD just to be in a position to get him!!! :rotfl:

Specializes in Oncology RN.
as for dr. phil's "affair," i'd like some evidence of some sort--too many people in the public eye get mud thrown at them simply because they are in the public eye......

dr. phil used to live in kc (i want to say attended high school here). to my knowledge, his ex-wife is still in the area. yes, the "rumors" of the affair are true. i guess dr. phil also perpetuates another stereotype...doctors will leave the very wives who got them through medical/graduate school for a trophy wife once they are a high and mighty doctor.

Specializes in NICU.

It sounds like Dr. Phil is also dumbing down the schooling it takes to become a nurse. (yet another reason to get mad at the jerk) Who the heck would go through such hard classes just to get a husband? It's nursing school, not finishing school.

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