Does the BSN in 10 apply to all nurses or just RN's and why?

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Does the bsn in 10 apply to all nurses or just rn and why?

2 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

No one can deny that a BSN student undergoes a more rigorous course of study.

They go through a longer/broader course of study for sure but is it more rigorous? How do we know this? Are the BSN nursing courses actually harder? ?

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3 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

They go through a longer/broader course of study for sure but is it more rigorous? How do we know this? Are the BSN nursing courses actually harder? ?

I am not necessarily talking about clinical rigor - but I have never written more papers in my life, and I have BA's in both English and history. Really It just seems to be a huge money grab to me but that is only my opinion.

Hppy

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4 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

I am not necessarily talking about clinical rigor - but I have never written more papers in my life, and I have BA's in both English and history. Really It just seems to be a huge money grab to me but that is only my opinion.

Hppy

Thank you for your honest answer. I really do appreciate it. And I agree with you.

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Gonna throw my opinion on this fire:

I was an LPN first because we were moving so often with active duty husband - I then did an ADN and practiced as an RN for 8 years, went back did a BSN, MSN and a couple of post-MSN APRN certificates.

IMHO, the BSN did not make me a better nurse - it was just fluff.

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There will always be people who disagree on this topic but at the end of the day a patient in pain, or with a new CA Dx, or facing great loss doesn't care what studies show. Nothing replaces your presence at the bedside, a kind word, a gentle touch, quiet support - any nurse with any degree can do this.

Hppy

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On 1/28/2019 at 4:00 PM, LPNTORN704 said:

Thank you, I read it but all it mentions is rn.i know why but I dont see the point considering an rn an a bsn do the exact same thing and in most places get the same pay.just sounds to me like they just want an excuse to drop an extra load on nurses as far as patients and responsibility. I hope they have plans of paying for tuition and providing a large hourly wage

Pay does not increase because hospital decides you are so valuable they cant live without you,....the reality is collective bargaining is what helps move wages along.Nurses sticking together for a common cause.

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On 1/28/2019 at 4:49 PM, NICUmiiki said:

An LPN can’t get a BSN (without becoming an RN), so I’m going to go with “just RNs.”

Why not? There are LPN to BSN programs out there..

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On 1/29/2019 at 2:44 PM, pedi_nurse said:

That's interesting there were more clinical hours in the ADN program.

I went to an ADN, then did the ADN-BSN. I got 4 ICU job offers and only put in two applications. I was on a 1 day rotation to the ICU and was offered a job in said ICU with the option of starting in their CVICU if I so wanted. During the interview the manager said she preferred applicants from our school over the much more expensive BSN program because our clinical experience was much better than the BSN. Everyone knew this, and we could see it on our rotations at the hospital. the BSN students were coddled and not required to really "get their hands dirty." Where I am now (different state) some of the programs won't even let the students pass meds. I think it's dependent on school/location. I received an excellent nursing education, and the BSN did ZILCH in making me a better nurse. The only reason I did it was that it was a hoop to jump in order to get where I am now. This is obvious if you look at any of the curriculum for the BSN. It's nursing "theory" and other fluff classes that require you to write a paper about subjects that in no way pertain to clinical patient care. The education is nonsense, and would be better if it contained material applicable to medicine.

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Once the alredy worsening nursing shortage gets worse (193k short by 2030 in CA alone), you'll see why this is an unattainable idiotic mandate/goal.

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On ‎1‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 1:05 PM, JadedCPN said:

One is a licensure, which is the RN, and one is a degree, which is the BSN.

I hate to pop your bubble, but I have a nursing degree, and it isn't a BSN.

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Ugh. Double post.

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3 minutes ago, JKL33 said:

Rigor. ?

[edit: decided to stop at that ^]

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