Dismissal From Nursing Program - Is all hope lost?

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Has anyone ever been dismissed due to non-academic reasons? My GPA is not too bad, but due to other reasons I was dismissed from a four year program during my first year due to a unprofessional email exchange with a tutor. I am left wondering if any other nursing programs will accept me due to this reason. I don’t think the fact that I was dismissed shows up on transcripts, but it does seem to be a top questions when one is trying to transfer into a new nursing program after already being accepted and attending one recently. Is there any hope out there? Any similar experiences? 

10 hours ago, vintagegal said:

It depends on what was said in the email. Was the content non-excusable? For instance, some bantering may indicate that this field may not suit you. Only you can answer that for yourself. If you shouldn’t say it aloud, then it should not be written in any form of communication whether electronic or otherwise. Did someone touch a nerve? Patients can get to your nerves quicker than anything, so can an egotistical Dr. You have to keep your cool, maintain tact and dignity. There is still a way to get your point across without crossing the line. 

Yes, it was bad of me to respond.  Patients have never touched my nerve before. Patients are in a weak state and don’t go around insulting those helping them in my opinion. As long as I am helpful, I’ve never been insulted. So I am not really understanding how it correlates to eachother. 

12 hours ago, PollywogNP said:

Well you’re the one having trouble getting into another nursing program. I attended 4 nursing programs from LPN, ADN, RN to BSN & MSN in 3 different states. I have also taught in 3 different nursing programs. They all required transcripts from every school attended. You can see I have over 40 years experience, about to start my 45th year as a nurse so have lots of accurate information for those that will heed it. You however don’t seem to like the information given to you. So are you saying the programs you are now applying to are not asking for transcripts from all schools you have attended? They are asking questions obviously. You sound very immature overall.

 

I believe you are mixing up someone else’s story of another individual they know and mine into one opinion. 

18 hours ago, HarleyvQuinn said:

 I imagine they're going to ask why you were dismissed. Nursing, and nursing academia, are not large circles. Those at the new program may even know some at the previous program, so they may have some backstory already. Be very cautious about how you frame the incident. They're going to be looking for evidence of insight into what led to your dismissal, remorse, reflection on how your behavior in the interaction was problematic and could have been better, how it could have translated into practice, and changes you have made.  

 Based on what is quoted above, I can sense that you still have strong feelings from the incident and likely feel wronged. I know I don't know the story behind what happened to you and please understand that I'm not passing judgment on you at all. The goal here is to get your nursing education back on track. Take it as a learning experience to always be cautious about how you interact with others professionally, even if you're still just in school. Best of luck. 

 

Thank you for your kind insight. 

45 minutes ago, Rach1234567 said:

Yes, it was bad of me to respond.  Patients have never touched my nerve before. Patients are in a weak state and don’t go around insulting those helping them in my opinion. As long as I am helpful, I’ve never been insulted. So I am not really understanding how it correlates to eachother. 

You have a huge learning curve ahead of you if you think just because a patient is weak, they won't insult you.................

6 minutes ago, Mergirlc said:

You have a huge learning curve ahead of you if you think just because a patient is weak, they won't insult you.................

Long term wise they never do. They probably fall in love with me actually. Probably the short term ones or ones unlucky enough to not get me will insult me because they are jealous. 

14 hours ago, PollywogNP said:

Well you’re the one having trouble getting into another nursing program. I attended 4 nursing programs from LPN, ADN, RN to BSN & MSN in 3 different states. I have also taught in 3 different nursing programs. They all required transcripts from every school attended. You can see I have over 40 years experience, about to start my 45th year as a nurse so have lots of accurate information for those that will heed it. You however don’t seem to like the information given to you. So are you saying the programs you are now applying to are not asking for transcripts from all schools you have attended? They are asking questions obviously. You sound very immature overall.

 

I have not tried much yet. We shall find out if it is much of a hinderance or not. I’m starting to think it might not be. I tried to inquire about one at most but due to the extremely low acceptance rate and high ranking of the program they said it is unlikely. 

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On 8/7/2021 at 10:14 PM, Rach1234567 said:

This is true. She should have done that outright. But in the present-day or future as you might call it, they usually know what schools you’ve attended in the past. It sounds like they were desperate for money and wanted to admit her for some dough. 

Because of FERPA, schools cannot know about your educational history unless you give permission.

It does seem to me that you have a problem with professionalism. Would you agree with that?

I’ve been plenty upset in my career, and in school. I’ve shed a few tears in the bathroom at times, and I’ve stood up for myself when necessary but I would never curse someone out over email even just for the simple fact that it could bite me in the behind later. 
 

If you’re young and ill tempered you need to address this about yourself because you must have some emotional control to be a good nurse. If you are over 30, please just pick another career. This isn’t for everyone.

3 minutes ago, FolksBtrippin said:

Because of FERPA, schools cannot know about your educational history unless you give permission.

It does seem to me that you have a problem with professionalism. Would you agree with that?

I’ve been plenty upset in my career, and in school. I’ve shed a few tears in the bathroom at times, and I’ve stood up for myself when necessary but I would never curse someone out over email even just for the simple fact that it could bite me in the behind later. 
 

If you’re young and ill tempered you need to address this about yourself because you must have some emotional control to be a good nurse. If you are over 30, please just pick another career. This isn’t for everyone.

Quite disturbing to hear you received such ill treatment leading to tears in a bathroom. My former mentors would be shocked to hear that kind of comment. I do not think so, since I have been treated with respect and trained right. But I do agree it is not for those who do not have to subject themselves to such treatment (not doing it for their kids or have huge financial burdens, etc). I can understand those who must do their careers in a certain way due to their life constraints. 

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55 minutes ago, FolksBtrippin said:

Because of FERPA, schools cannot know about your educational history unless you give permission.

If you took out financial aid, the previous enrollment may show up.

On 8/8/2021 at 10:48 AM, Rach1234567 said:

Polly - you are spreading misinformation about the application process and it reflects poorly on your ability to properly guide any potential student during their application process. You should refrain from misguiding those much younger than you in any form. 

It's the narcissism in this thread for me. 

On 8/6/2021 at 1:15 PM, Rach1234567 said:

Has anyone ever been dismissed due to non-academic reasons? My GPA is not too bad, but due to other reasons I was dismissed from a four year program during my first year due to a unprofessional email exchange with a tutor. I am left wondering if any other nursing programs will accept me due to this reason. I don’t think the fact that I was dismissed shows up on transcripts, but it does seem to be a top questions when one is trying to transfer into a new nursing program after already being accepted and attending one recently. Is there any hope out there? Any similar experiences? 

Interesting responses that you’re giving to people that are kindly giving you advice. I have a friend who is a retired professor and her saying is “ In school, you (student) are not the one that has power. Also, “school is not the place to f… around.” So, I guess as the saying goes, you fu…. around and found out. You always have to remain professional even if your brain is telling you other things and especially in an email where you had the chance to change what you were saying. 

3 hours ago, Rach1234567 said:

Patients are in a weak state and don’t go around insulting those helping them in my opinion.

Oh yes they do. They do A LOT. Like, so much. 

Long term, short term, bedridden, dying, not that bad off. Patients of all demographics. You can be an angel and give them exactly what they asked for and still be verbally assaulted or threatened. 

I'm not sure if your mentors are doing a great job if they haven't mentioned it or are telling you otherwise. Definitely prepare for it if you plan to get into a other program!

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