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i know somoene that cheated in every last one of their pre reqs and has plans to cheat their way through nursing school. they have very poor math skills, and said that they will have a friend who can do math in nursing school with them who will do it for them so they can make a 90% on the math tests. this person has gotten away with cheatign so well i wonder if he will make it as far as being able to sit for the nclex
i am curious to know if there is a way for someone to get all the way through nursing on dishonesty especially for the chronic cheaters who cheat on everything they do? in nursing school do the instructors do more to weed out the cheaters?
i feel that this person doesnt deserve to be a nurse at all. why pick a professoin that you have to do that much cheating. and to not know basic math is big concern as well.
I agree with you. Looking the other way because it doesn't directly effect me, is a playground response. My school policy states that if I witness cheating and don't report it, I'm as guilty as the cheater. So, if I witness cheating, I report it. I truly don't understand this attitude of looking the other way. Cheaters do impact me, they change the curve of the exams and more importantly, they impact the credibility of the program I'm in!Reporting what I've seen, is also just the right thing to do. For me, that's reason enough.
You get curves on your exams?!!!?? LOLLL my program doesnt even round grades. If you make a 69.99, then you have failed that class!
You get curves on your exams?!!!?? LOLLL my program doesnt even round grades. If you make a 69.99, then you have failed that class!
Wow. We fail at 75.9, and yup, no curve.
Wrong is wrong regardless of where it's happening. If you saw someone stealing at the store wouldn't you report it? I feel the same way about cheating. That being said, the cheating idiot would have to be pretty obvious for me to notice because I don't even look up from my test when I'm taking it. Talking would be ABSOLUTELY noticed by our instructors. We have about 6 of them roaming the class room while we are testing.
Wow. We fail at 75.9, and yup, no curve.Wrong is wrong regardless of where it's happening. If you saw someone stealing at the store wouldn't you report it? I feel the same way about cheating. That being said, the cheating idiot would have to be pretty obvious for me to notice because I don't even look up from my test when I'm taking it. Talking would be ABSOLUTELY noticed by our instructors. We have about 6 of them roaming the class room while we are testing.
Yeah I know what you mean because our teachers are watching us like vultures circling their prey. Not to mention we usually have 4 different versions of the test to begin with. There is no way that anyone could cheat at my school. Also, yes cheating is wrong. My instructors have emphasized honesty and integrity as vital to being successful nurses, and also as the key to success in life as well.
The cheater will eventually get caught, or fail out all together. You cant cheat during clinical when your instructor asks you what to assess before giving meds or during physical assessments.
No one can cheat on the NCLEX. Any when you bust your butt in nursing school and find some one is cheating...it just takes one person to tell. I worked by butt off to graduate with honors, I heard there were some people cheating (never knew how, just heard some people were) but had I known who I would have told.
If I were the dean of a school, ANY school not even just nursing.. you CHEAt and you're out. No 2nd chances cause once a cheater ALWAYS a cheater. There should be no tolerance to any form of cheating, it makes me sick. There are people who work so hard to get a good grade and to see someone with the answers written on their hands and getting a better grade than you is the worst feeling, it makes my blood boil. UGH!
No 2nd chances cause once a cheater ALWAYS a cheater.
An incident that happened last night makes me wonder when college students began to cheat.
My now-7th grader cheated on a test in 2nd grade. My husband and I were extremely angry and disappointed, and we worked with the teacher to ensure it never happened again. (He was separated from the other kids during tests for a little while...humiliating for him, but quite frankly, tough ****.) To my knowledge, he's never cheated again.
I found out last night through a roundabout way that my 5th grader copied a friend's math homework. I didn't yell, but I let him know in no uncertain terms that "there will be no liars or cheaters in this house." I also informed him of the consequences as one gets older of cheating. (One day, when my kid told me that a neighbor girl punched him in the stomach, I explained that, as adults, that's considered assault and you can get thrown in jail for it. I like opening their eyes to adult consequences of things that kids do without thinking.) Based on my 5th grader's reaction to my disappointment and his punishment, I'm pretty sure we won't have cheating issues again.
Part of the reason my kids' solitary incidents with cheating bothers me is because I and their father never cheated in school at all. I wish I could get inside my kids' heads to understand WHAT THE HELL they were thinking!!!
I know this whole story is off-topic, but I'll admit that the incident last night bothered me quite a bit---once a cheater always a cheater; I wish I had a crystal ball to be sure that it doesn't apply to my kids!---and I had to get it off my chest. :)
I have actually seen someone making there way through school pretty dishonestly. I have heard that either he cheats on tests by talking to people in other classes after they take the test which at least gets him to pass. Not acing the test but its enough. If he does his homework, which is rare, its someone elses. He's not even supposed to be allowed to stay for clinicals without his homework but they let him. Then at clinicals he just disappears for like an hour here and there. Enough that the instructors are always looking for him. But they don't want to give an unsatisfactory for the day, so he'll get two little u's (3 little u's make a big U). Its frustrating when you stay up working on homework, show up with not alot of sleep, actually try even when you don't like the clinical that your doing, just to watch this go on.
I think sometimes that instructors really know the deal they just don't want to go through all of the hassle to actually do their job.
nurse2033, MSN, RN
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I sure hope they can't make it through. If she makes it as far as the NCLEX then that should put an end to her madness because I don't see how you could reliably cheat your way through that. I agree with many others. Report!