Biden and Trump, with and without masks, respectively

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Memorial Day 2020 offered an array of contrasts as some Americans sheltered in their homes, others flocked to beaches and pools, and the nation’s political leaders honored generations of war dead, with former vice president Joe Biden wearing a mask and President Trump going without.

Well, is this a surprise to you???

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Memorial Day offers array of contrasts as Biden and Trump salute war dead, with and without masks

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One man is confident in his ability to demonstrate patriotic role modeling during a somber memorial to the fallen, in the midst of a national health emergency. That man know knows the weight of grief, loss, and the accountability of leadership.

The other man is an empowered idiot who only seems capable of bullying, belittling and belligerent, narcissistic $#&$#%£.

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On 5/26/2020 at 4:19 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

The other man is an empowered idiot who only seems capable of bullying, belittling and belligerent, narcissistic $#&$#%£.

Deep down inside, the fact that so many people are not only OK with that, but actually champion that behavior, and that a number of clergy openly do the same, makes me fear for the future of our country, toomuchbaloney.

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On 5/26/2020 at 4:19 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

One man is confident in his ability to demonstrate patriotic role modeling during a somber memorial to the fallen, in the midst of a national health emergency. That man know knows the weight of grief, loss, and the accountability of leadership.

The other man is an empowered idiot who only seems capable of bullying, belittling and belligerent, narcissistic $#&$#%£.

Couldn't have said it better!

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1 hour ago, nursel56 said:

Deep down inside, the fact that so many people are not only OK with that, but actually champion that behavior, and that a number of clergy openly do the same, makes me fear for the future of our country, toomuchbaloney.

We are in the process of losing our republic to corrupt charlatans right this very moment. Trump just fired the IG investigating another of his hand picked kleptocrats. It's a pattern of behavior; consolidating power and removing limits on authority are obvious signs that my grandchildren are likely to grow up in some authoritarian ****hole rather than the country we were promised.

https://www.citizensforethics.org/trump-removed-watchdog-investigating-elaine-chao-mcconnell-vetted-replacement/

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Oh please. Trump the dictator? He’s removed many obstacles to American success. He’s lessened bureaucratic regulations. He’s not using the FBI and IRS as tools to bludgeon those who disagree with him. He isn’t sending out his thugs in the middle of the night to burst into people’s homes and wake them up to arrest them after he’s notified the press. He has elected Supreme Court justices who actually value our constitution, not the laws of other countries’ courts. He doesn’t rule with his pen. He’s allowed industry to recover. He’s allowed us to become energy independent. He doesn’t divide us into groups of victims. He has achieved the highest level of employment for African Americans and Hispanics. And to top it all off, I very much enjoy the fact that I pay $2 something for gasoline, not $5 a gallon, which was the direction we were headed in.

I enjoy the fact that I no longer have to hear about our nation’s public schools being strong armed to allow boys to shower in girls’ locker rooms. By the use of that pen. And that police officers are a little safer because the rule of law has support. And that there haven’t been riots caused by hateful divisiveness and rhetoric.

Patriotic role modeling? I’m assuming you mean Biden. Who went into office as one of the poorest politicians, was actually in debt, and after using his position as leverage, managed to amass a fortune for himself and his family. What a role model! He strong armed the Ukraine to allow his son a pass on illegal behavior.

I very much wish for this country to recover from the virus. If we can bring back manufacturing back, it will benefit so many. The American people have been sold out and it’s time to take our country back. Trump is in no way perfect, but he’s a damn world away from what we had before, which was utterly disastrous.

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3 hours ago, zbb13 said:

Oh please. Trump the dictator? He’s removed many obstacles to American success. He’s lessened bureaucratic regulations. He’s not using the FBI and IRS as tools to bludgeon those who disagree with him. He isn’t sending out his thugs in the middle of the night to burst into people’s homes and wake them up to arrest them after he’s notified the press. He has elected Supreme Court justices who actually value our constitution, not the laws of other countries’ courts. He doesn’t rule with his pen. He’s allowed industry to recover. He’s allowed us to become energy independent. He doesn’t divide us into groups of victims. He has achieved the highest level of employment for African Americans and Hispanics. And to top it all off, I very much enjoy the fact that I pay $2 something for gasoline, not $5 a gallon, which was the direction we were headed in.

I enjoy the fact that I no longer have to hear about our nation’s public schools being strong armed to allow boys to shower in girls’ locker rooms. By the use of that pen. And that police officers are a little safer because the rule of law has support. And that there haven’t been riots caused by hateful divisiveness and rhetoric.

Patriotic role modeling? I’m assuming you mean Biden. Who went into office as one of the poorest politicians, was actually in debt, and after using his position as leverage, managed to amass a fortune for himself and his family. What a role model! He strong armed the Ukraine to allow his son a pass on illegal behavior.

I very much wish for this country to recover from the virus. If we can bring back manufacturing back, it will benefit so many. The American people have been sold out and it’s time to take our country back. Trump is in no way perfect, but he’s a damn world away from what we had before, which was utterly disastrous.

Sure.

When a rant like that ends with the completely partisan and baseless claim that the Obama presidency was a disaster, I just chuckle. One hundred thousand dead Americans with millions more on the edge of economic collapse, while the wealthiest profit from the pandemic, in the most incompetent federal pandemic response in history and here we read that Obama was the disaster.

Bwahahaha

Why are you worked up about some partisan campaign conspiracy theory that Biden strong armed Ukraine but it's apparently OK for Trump to strong arm Ukraine for personal political investigations? The hypocrisy is stunning if you condemn the previous VP for doing what you said is OK for the POTUS.

It's OK that you don't know what patriotic role modeling is, there isn't much evidence of it among the GOP today. Nonpartisan patriotism is almost unrecognizable and uncommon in the public life of Trumpublican leadership. Loyalty to the president's latest narrative (con/distraction/deflection/projection) is most important.

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zzb13 wrote “And to top it all off, I very much enjoy the fact that I pay $2 something for gasoline, not $5 a gallon, which was the direction we were headed in.”

I just picked this comment as I’m not sure why you think trump has any thing to do with gas prices dropping. What actually happened is saudi arabia & russia are having an oil war, which “will also directly rattle the United States. U.S. oil prices had tumbled to a four-year low of $27.34 a barrel in anticipation of Saudi Arabia saturating the market with excess crude in its quest to take back market share.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-and-saudi-arabia-spark-unprecedented-oil-war

I suggest you read the entire article. And if you can give a reason how trump caused gas prices to drop, please post.

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Trump allowed fracking. And the pipeline. So the US is able to produce its own oil. That allowed prices to drop. We no longer need to suffer at the whim of despots in the Middle East.

Our economy was in rough shape after Obama and all his regulations. We need the freedom to grow. And we need to bring manufacturing back to this country. Obama said that would never happen and we needed to get used to a new normal.

I enjoyed ranting. I’m so tired of hearing the constant criticism of Trump. I hear it at work, and heaven forbid you give a dissenting opinion. I hear it out and about.

Open minded people can’t possibly imagine that someone actually supports him as President. Since he was elected, plenty of us did. I think he’s done a great job, considering the circumstances. And I voted for him very reluctantly. He is not an ideal candidate by any means, but he’s the best of the ones we unfortunately have.

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Trump opened up fracking?

“But a deeper look at the statistics reveal that while drilling has ticked back up since 2016, the current oil and gas “boom” remains a mere shadow of the frenzy that occurred under Obama’s reputedly burdensome policies, and the recent comeback has very little to do with Trump’s rollbacks. It’s a matter of correlation rather than causation.”

https://www.hcn.org/articles/natural-gas-trumps-policies-arent-actually-fueling-a-fracking-boom

And as for the economy being in rough shape after obama? Seriously? Claiming that is to simply deny history. Check out this story from business insider which shows multiple charts depicting how trump just continued what obama started.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/9-charts-comparing-trump-economy-to-obama-bush-administrations-2019-9-1028833119?op=1#wage-growth-for-non-supervisory-and-production-workers-in-the-private-sector-slowed-down-after-the-recession-but-mostly-picked-up-during-president-trump-s-first-term-as-the-labor-market-has-tightened-4

And another question - trump & the gop pushed through the 2017 tax cut which didn’t make sense economically. Why supercharge an economy that is not in recession? Increase the deficit while reducing gov revenue. Here’s a good recap from the left wing leaning forbes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2019/05/30/the-2017-tax-cuts-didn't-work-the-data-prove-it/#32c6f64758c1

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"And another question - trump & the gop pushed through the 2017 tax cut which didn’t make sense economically. Why supercharge an economy that is not in recession? Increase the deficit while reducing gov revenue."

"Why supercharge an economy?" "Reducing gov revenue??" What are you talking about? After the tax cuts the government collected record revenue/taxes. Maybe that's because businesses were able to expand operations and hire more people since the government was taking less of their money.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/

From the article, "The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

It's clear you don't know how economics work. More regulations and more taxes equal less business and less growth. When the government takes less money from businesses and individuals those entities can choose to invest or spend as they see fit. Why would you want the government to have more of your money, do you think they can spend it wiser than you?

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