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    Riots in Minneapolis

    We agree there. Peaceful protestors should be left alone. Looters and rioters should be arrested.
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    Riots in Minneapolis

    Honest question for you Toomuch, what do you think the response should be in Minneapolis from the police? Should they stop the looting and rioting and let it happen?
  3. Toomuch, a simple Google search will yield numerous results of conservatives being shadow banned. That's the practice of letting them post but not showing that post to many or any of their followers. "It said that Twitter’s new strategy to make trolls less visible was accidentally ensnaring some Republican politicians, making it harder to find them in the search bar by not autofilling their account names. Vice reported that the affected accounts included those of Reps. Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, and Matt Gaetz; Republican Party Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel; and Donald Trump Jr.’s spokesman Andrew Surabian." Or the accounts no longer appear in search. I tried searching for Donald Trump Jr a few months back and his name didn't appear on instagram. He called them out on Twitter and it was back searchable a day later. I follow Candice Owens and rarely see her posts in my feed. I have to look her up to see what she's been posting. These are small steps, not outright bans, but they prevent certain voices from getting their message out. My overall point is that this, and censorship, is bad and that we should let all voices be heard in the marketplace of ideas. @heron, I've never heard the term "fuzzy headed liberals." I guess I'm too young! Yes, fact checking is different than removing a post. But what happens when the fact checker has a clear political bias like the one at Twitter? Do you think he's going to fairly fact check both sides of the isle?
  4. TomPaine

    Riots in Minneapolis

    Toomuchbaloney, you seem to be missing my point and conflating several issues. Everyone with a working brain is appalled by what happened to George Floyd and people want to see the cop arrested and charged. I believe that will happen very soon. That's how our system works. And it's going to work in this case. Imagine if every time something happened we didn't like politically we burned down our neighborhood and looted from businesses. It would be anarchy. There is no excuse for the looting. The riot police were only brought in when the looting and destruction began. The armed protestors at the capitol is a separate issue. I don't recall seeing the armed capitol protestors looting, destroying cop cars or businesses. If you have some video or anything showing that please share. What do you want to happen in Minneapolis? Should the police let looters continue to steal and burn down businesses? Are you really advocating for more chaos? Or are you just upset that peaceful protestors at a capitol in another state weren't met with riot police as well?
  5. I'm not confused at all. I never said the government should take action. I said these media companies are putting themselves in the crosshairs of government regulation by censoring certain political views. Though the government puts restrictions on private businesses all the time. Explain to me why you're OK with Twitter censoring conversations but not AT&T or Verizon. Would you be OK with your phone company disconnecting your call if you said something that opposes the CEO's of Verizon's political views?
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    Are churches safe?

    We know this virus predominantly kills old people. Maybe just maybe the church could reopen but ask their elderly parishioners to stay home for the time being. The same could be said for most businesses. In MN the average age of those dying from covid is 86 years old. Doesn't matter if they went to church or the marijuana store, it's predominantly only killing old people. The rest of the population doesn't need to be on lock down from churches, or anywhere else, unless you are old or have underlying conditions.
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    Riots in Minneapolis

    Remember when MLK jr said, "To further the cause of social justice go down the street and rob and loot your neighbors." Me neither, because it didn't happen. I fully sympathize with the situation in Minneapolis and the death of George Floyd. I believe in due process, but after seeing the video I was sickened by the police officer's actions. He did not need to have his knee of the neck of a man who was handcuffed and held down by two other officers. His excessive force caused the death of Floyd. He was fired and he will be arrested and charged. There will be a court case and evidence will be presented and a verdict delivered. That's how our system works. It does not work by robbing your neighbors and destroying their livelihoods. There is no cause that is furthered by the looter's actions. There is no traction gained. Their actions haven't changed policy and ensured that justice was done. It was simply a group of people who took the opportunity to steal and destroy for personal gain. The looters are selfish because they took some of the spotlight away from George Floyd and now the nation sees another example people run amok without furthering their agenda or making any positive strides. If the looters actually cared about Floyd or the social cause they speak of they would take civil action. It worked in the past and it would work again. The Montgomery bus boycott changed policy. But it wasn't easy, it was certainly harder than breaking glass and stealing a tv. And therein lies the problem. It's easy to riot, it's easy to steal and claim "XYZ caused me to loot." It's hard to organize like-minded people and bring about change. It takes time, grit and determination. Think how much better things would be if the thousands of people who looted and rioted got together and voted for change. They could elect someone who could enact policies to prevent something like this from happening again. That's how our system works, not by destroying your own neighborhood.
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    Are churches safe?

    What were the ages of the people who died? Covid-19 remains a virus that predominantly kills the elderly and those with existing conditions. Those people are just as at risk going to the liquor store or WalMart as they are going to church. It seems odd that in Illinois pot dispensaries (which didn't even exist there 6 months ago) are essential but churches are not. What sense does that make?
  9. Take out "social media" and insert "phone company." Imagine if AT&T disconnected calls or internet service if their user said something a supposedly unbiased "fact-checker" disagreed with. What is the US Postal service labeled conservative mail as disinformation or destroyed it instead of sending it on to the intended recipient? We are in modern times, and although I agree that these are private companies and for the most part can do with their business what they want, there is a fine line when the main mode of dialogue is biased towards one political view. I'm not saying I agree with what Trump said, but when these platforms start censoring one political point of view they are putting themselves in the crosshairs. facebook's approach is better in my opinion. Let the marketplace of ideas decide what is valuable and what is garbage.
  10. As we've passed the two month mark of the lockdown it's become apparent that two things are true...the virus isn't as bad as the "experts" made it out to be and some governors have become drunk with power. The first point (it isn't as bad as predicted) is a good thing. Early on in the pandemic the media, some politicians, and internet virtue-shamers implored us to close businesses and stay home or 2 million people will die. Although every life is valuable the actual number of deaths is far far lower and seems to be centered around the old and those with underlying conditions. That's a good thing because it's not the world ending cataclysm that was predicted. The second point is more troubling. In the early days of the pandemic we didn't have much info and a lockdown seemed like the best bet to slow this virus. As we gained more information (and it wasn't as bad as predicted) the lockdown rules became more random and punitive. Some states closed down more, others opened up while others still never really closed in the first place. Businesses are struggling, some are closing permanently and some will close if they can't get back to business soon. Meanwhile state leaders seem to be loving the ability to lock people at home and control who can and cannot operate a business. A stylist can't see ten customers in a day but the cashier at the liquor store can ring up fifty people per hour. I can't get my hair cut but my dog can. I'm not allowed to go hike a trail in a state park but I can go to Target with 200 other people. We have to stay 6 feet away because the virus can't travel 6 feet and 1 inch. It's safe to shop for flooring at Home Depot but unsafe to go to church. I can buy a Subway sandwich but I can't buy a gun. It just doesn't make any sense. The problem lies in the politician. The governors of some states seem to love telling people what to do. Since we now know that Covid-19 predominantly affects the elderly and those with conditions why don't we let the rest of us get back to work. People are literally losing their life's work for no reason. What sense does it make that North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin (Wisconsin only opened because the governor was sued and the state supreme court ruled his stay at home order unconstitutional) and Iowa are opening up for business but Minnesota and Michigan are not opening. Are politics at play? Why would a governor want more turnmoil and hardship in their state? Does it have to do with the election in the fall? None of this lockdown makes any sense. If you're old or have a condition or don't feel safe because the big bad media scared you, then stay home. But open up the country, let people get back to work, let us thrive again. Governors, get out of the way or the people will take action. We don't want a handout, we want to go back to work and earn a living!
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