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30 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:Yep, he said very fine people on both sides. YOU HAD OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES NEO NAZIS and WHITE SUPREMACISTS there. Those are the people who he is referring. You taking his statements out of context but that is what the liberal left does consistently.
If you want to quibble about whether people who support confederate monuments and participate in protests organized and attended by white supremacist groups are white supremacists or not, that’s your prerogative, but Trump’s statement emboldened the white supremacist movement as they also saw it as tacit approval of their cause.
Whether we give Trump a pass on this or not, the fact remains that the far right frequently protests heavily armed and when they attack their opponents it’s with lethal intent and often lethal results. If you’re concerned about political violence that should rate higher than stealing a child’s hat.
36 minutes ago, MunoRN said:I would agree that he didn't specifically refer to the guy who ran down people with his car as being one of the "very fine people", but the "both sides" consisted of those protesting statues and other monuments to the confederacy, and those in support of honoring the confederacy. The confederacy came to exist for one stated purpose; to defend the ability of people to own other people based on the color of their skin, I don't think it's a stretch to consider anyone who supports that view to be a white supremacist or at least a supporter of their core views.
The monuments were all largely erected during a time of heightened white supremacy as well. It’s a very direct ideological link.
"Thank you Mr. President for creating such a divisive nation" said someone once ✊?✊?✊?. This political violence is getting out of control.
Poor parenting on the mother for allowing that child to wear that hat. That child can't vote and obviously doesn't understand what the, "others" meaning of that hat is.
11 hours ago, Crojo1501 said:"Thank you Mr. President for creating such a divisive nation" said someone once ✊?✊?✊?. This political violence is getting out of control.
Poor parenting on the mother for allowing that child to wear that hat. That child can't vote and obviously doesn't understand what the, "others" meaning of that hat is.
Eh, I mean, parents raise their kids with the politics and values they themselves have. I’m not fussed about a child wearing political gear. I think it’s pretty typical to mirror parents’ politics on the path to developing ones own which may or may not be different.
On 8/22/2020 at 4:28 PM, Daisy4RN said:This is just so disturbing. I don't know why these people think it is okay to behave like this. Maybe bc some of the Dem politicians have encouraged it bc of their extreme hate for Trump. I wonder if CNN and the NYT will try to blame this boy for the situation like they did with Nick Sandman. I also saw that people in Portland were protesting the fact that someone dared to have an American flag on their own balcony so of course they had to scream at them (and also their neighbors in the process) all night because that was racist. This is just getting out of hand. At what point did we decide it was OK to solve problems this way, oh yeah, we (the people) didn't. I sincerely hope that woman was not at RN.
Um, no no no. Dem politicians have nothing to do with this, even if they're just as full of it as Republican politicians are. This is one, incredibly messed up woman. This is on her. Even if she's an RN, what she's done in no way reflects on you as a nurse or anyone's politics. She's messed up.
35 minutes ago, Rill said:Um, no no no. Dem politicians have nothing to do with this, even if they're just as full of it as Republican politicians are. This is one, incredibly messed up woman. This is on her. Even if she's an RN, what she's done in no way reflects on you as a nurse or anyone's politics. She's messed up.
I was referring to the encouragement by some Dem leaders (like Maxine Waters) who told people to harass Trump supporters. They have emboldened people to do things just as these 2 did, it is esp disturbing that they would steal a childs hat. I have already stated the mother went to far, but for the fact that her kid was assaulted nothing would have happened.
17 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:I was referring to the encouragement by some Dem leaders (like Maxine Waters) who told people to harass Trump supporters. They have emboldened people to do things just as these 2 did, it is esp disturbing that they would steal a childs hat. I have already stated the mother went to far, but for the fact that her kid was assaulted nothing would have happened.
Oh well. Trump has said and implied much worse with a much bigger megaphone. He sets the national tone.
1 hour ago, FNP2B1 said:When has Trump encouraged Republicans to harass Democrats in restaurants, at home or anywhere else. I'd love to read the quote. I've watched the Maxine Waters speech.
Here’s a couple of trump tweets & comments encouraging violence. There are more in the link.
"These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won't let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!"
"LIBERATE MICHIGAN!; LIBERATE MINNESOTA!; LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!"
"When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, 'Please don't be too nice,'" he said.“
"When you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over [their head]," Trump continued, mimicking the motion. "Like, 'Don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody, don't hit their head.' I said, 'You can take the hand away, OK?'“
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766
11 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:Thanks for the quotes but nowhere is there an instance where The President is instructing the general public to harass the other side of the political aisle. Democrats own that.
No one is surprised by that stance. Of course, Trump just speaks his mind and doesn't ever have to be concerned about setting a tone or escalating unrest, right? That's true in Trumplandia but not true in the USA where the expectations for the president are quite a bit different than that. It would appear that in order to support Trump, one must hold everyone EXCEPT Trump to high standards.
Just because Trump isn't personally confined by ethical, moral, legal, constitutional or societal norms and standards doesn't mean that they aren't important and still at play within our society and republic. We the People are about to send DJT and his band of miscreants home. Unless his supporters have handed already him the republic in quest to make liberals cry. It would be a country level expression of a Jim Jones event to give an unrestrained authoritarian, with few personal ethical boundaries, 4 more years to corrupt our public institutions for his whim.
By the way, millions of Americans aren't buying the propaganda about the glorious leader "dad". They knew who Trump was before 2016 and more have been educated since then.
Trump is not kind, generous, forgiving, faithful, honest, peaceful, humble...none of it. That's all marketing. Propaganda. Trump embodies the seven deadly sins, really...ìn my born again opinion.
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White Supremacist want Trump to remain president not because he does not have racist bone in his body as many Trump Supporters like to say. That would be antithetical to their beliefs. So, no, the media did not twist his words. His words were plane and simple. In fact, White Supremacists love Trump because he is an effective racist president. He is effective at suppressing the civil rights of black and brown American citizens and turning law enforcement against white Americans who have the audacity to try to stop him. However, this impeached president is not good at anything else.
Donald J. Trump is responsible for the deaths of 170,000+ Americans due to his crap and poor federal response to COVID-19. He is also responsible for deaths and injuries of thousands of black and brown immigrants including the babies that were ripped from their mother's arms at the border. All brought to us by the Nazi policy maker in Donald Trump's White House, Stephen Miller.
No, Trump Supporters, the only good thing about this clown show of a dangerous presidency and administration (similar to the RNC snooze-lie-fest/convention) is that it is almost over! So say we, the majority of American citizens because we will vote and our votes will be counted! And yes, he will finally be removed from office, so says the United States Constitution.