Biden suporter assaults 7 year old child, supposedly she is a RN

allnurses Guide · Aug 27, 2020

toomuchbaloney · Aug 27, 2020

39 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

This is a really confusing quote, isn't it? Is she saying that Trump benefit from the chaos during Trump's administration?

Is she saying that the clear choice would be the person not currently responsible for chaos, anarchy, vandalism and violence (Biden)?

Is this a parting shot of sorts? Weird.

Hoosier_RN, MSN · Aug 27, 2020

3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Oh well. Trump has said and implied much worse with a much bigger megaphone. He sets the national tone.

while he's a first class jack***, I've never heard him threaten anyone like that. I have heard Maxine Water and Rashida Talib say some very bothersome things along those lines. Please provide sources so that I can read up on it

Hoosier_RN, MSN · Aug 27, 2020

42 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

This is a really confusing quote, isn't it? Is she saying that Trump benefit from the chaos during Trump's administration?

Is she saying that the clear choice would be the person not currently responsible for chaos, anarchy, vandalism and violence (Biden)?

Is this a parting shot of sorts? Weird.

to me, it appears she's saying that Trump wants law and order and these actions by the opposite party followers highlights that. Anyone who wants the chaos and perpetuates it should be arrested and be served justice. Peaceful protests are totally okay, but the folks that are out hurting others and destroying property are creating problems then crying when caught, regardless of the party line that they are touting

toomuchbaloney · Aug 28, 2020

35 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

while he's a first class jack***, I've never heard him threaten anyone like that. I have heard Maxine Water and Rashida Talib say some very bothersome things along those lines. Please provide sources so that I can read up on it

36 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

while he's a first class jack***, I've never heard him threaten anyone like that. I have heard Maxine Water and Rashida Talib say some very bothersome things along those lines. Please provide sources so that I can read up on it

You've never heard Trump threaten who in what way? Please explain when or where I claimed that Trump threatened someone directly or directly ordered another to behave similarly. I didn't.

I continue to point out that what the president says is important and, as another poster referenced, sets tone. What tone does it set for you when the president "jokes" about police harming people in custody, or second amendment solutions or having tough people as supporters.

I wonder if you intentionally pay closer attention to the words of a couple of non-white female legislators (who don't represent you) than you pay attention to the words of the most powerful man in the country, or is that the focus of your media choices.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B · Aug 28, 2020

Not recent but qualifies in the did he ever category:

“"Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is," Trump said at a campaign rally.”

“Trump also encouraged his supporters at another event to "knock the crap" out of any protesters causing trouble.

"I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees," Trump said.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/394128-morning-joe-plays-montage-of-the-many-times-trump-encouraged-violence

And then there’s this article. Trump sounds dog whistles, trying to give himself plausible deniability .

”a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 54 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.“

”The 54 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt. These links are not speculative – they are documented in official records. And in the majority of cases identified by ABC News, it was perpetrators themselves who invoked the president in connection with their case, not anyone else.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889

Hoosier_RN, MSN · Aug 28, 2020

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You've never heard Trump threaten who in what way? Please explain when or where I claimed that Trump threatened someone directly or directly ordered another to behave similarly. I didn't.

Your words, to me imply this:

Oh well. Trump has said and implied much worse with a much bigger megaphone. He sets the national tone.

He's only part of what sets the national tone. Media, other politicians, and celebs also have a hand in the tone that directs us. Why not call it as it is?

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I continue to point out that what the president says is important and, as another poster referenced, sets tone. What tone does it set for you when the president "jokes" about police harming people in custody, or second amendment solutions or having tough people as supporters.

I agree and this is one of my reasons for not liking him. It's bully and boorish behavior, and we already have enough of that from the people that we encounter in our daily lives

I wonder if you intentionally pay closer attention to the words of a couple of non-white female legislators (who don't represent you) than you pay attention to the words of the most powerful man in the country, or is that the focus of your media choices.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

You're trying to pull the race card on me again. I've told you before that my sons and my brother are bi-racial, so please, keep that card for someone else, it doesn't work with me. Those 2 representatives make controversial statements often, and they know that they are making headlines, they do it unapologetically-there are more than a few who do it, crazy press is still press. They are played on all of news channels and are run in many newspapers. So, wonder no more, I don't have to focus on either of them as they put themselves out there. Also, you are correct that they don't represent me directly, but as they introduce and vote on legislation that may may have an effect on my life, I pay attention when I hear anything that is newsworthy with any of them-from any state, any party, House or Senate. We all should have a general awareness of those who are making our laws!

As far as news channels, the only available in my clinic is CNN, and I don't have any at home, as I cut the cord a while back

toomuchbaloney · Aug 28, 2020

31 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Your words, to me imply this:

Oh well. Trump has said and implied much worse with a much bigger megaphone. He sets the national tone.

He's only part of what sets the national tone. Media, other politicians, and celebs also have a hand in the tone that directs us. Why not call it as it is?

You're trying to pull the race card on me again. I've told you before that my sons and my brother are bi-racial, so please, keep that card for someone else, it doesn't work with me. Those 2 representatives make controversial statements often, and they know that they are making headlines, they do it unapologetically-there are more than a few who do it, crazy press is still press. They are played on all of news channels and are run in many newspapers. So, wonder no more, I don't have to focus on either of them as they put themselves out there. Also, you are correct that they don't represent me directly, but as they introduce and vote on legislation that may may have an effect on my life, I pay attention when I hear anything that is newsworthy with any of them-from any state, any party, House or Senate. We all should have a general awareness of those who are making our laws!

As far as news channels, the only available in my clinic is CNN, and I don't have any at home, as I cut the cord a while back

You and Trump apologists would like to cloud the reality that Trump encourages violence with his language and implied meanings by making some semantic appeal to exact language. It's disingenuous at best.

I'm not playing a race card. I don't care about the color of your children. I correctly pointed out that you are more familiar with the words of those women and wondered why you would be focused upon them or if that was the focus of your media. Because they have exactly nothing to do with what comes out of Trump's mouth. It is interesting though that you apparently know and care more about their comments than you do about the president's.

Trump is the most unapologetic president of my lifetime, yours too. His unapologetic and nasty corruption and dishonesty surely out pace anything either of them have to offer. After all, they don't get the societal benefit of the doubt that a white man born into wealth would get in this country. It is interesting that you know more about what they say when Trump is the most important political voice right now. I also don't watch cable programming, so I'm wondering what media is prioritizing those women for you?

Hoosier_RN, MSN · Aug 28, 2020

31 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You and Trump apologists would like to cloud the reality what Trump encourages violence with his language and implied meanings by making some semantic appeal to exact language. It's disingenuous at best.

I'm not an apologist, nice try...

I'm not playing a race card. Yes you are, you tried to call me out on something that you think is there by saying "non-white women." In fact, I find your tone offensive, and somewhat condescending...I don't care about the color of your children. I correctly pointed out that you are more familiar with the words of those women and wondered why you would be focused upon them or if that was the focus of your media. Because they have exactly nothing to do with what comes out of Trump's mouth. You're right, they don't. But the fact is, that they are influencing laws and media as much as he is. Many Americans of all party affiliations can tell you who they are. It's a matter of fact, whether you like it or not. AOC is also influential, but she hasn't told followers to go harass people that don't believe as she does. I also believe that she has some interesting ideas and enthusiam about achieving them. I look forward to seeing where her political career takes her. It is interesting though that you apparently know and care more about their comments than you do about the president's. Actually, like most persons, I hear about many politicians. Go back and reread my comments. Plain and simple.

Trump is the most unapologetic president of my lifetime, yours too. His unapologetic and nasty corruption and dishonesty surely out pace anything either of them have to offer. I agreed with this...oh, and if you believe other politicians are clean as a newborn babe compared to him, you are about as naive as it gets. I've never met a trustworthy politician. Most just do their deeds behind the scenes, he has to be the center of attention, carrying on about what he does. He's a braggart and very boastful. It's a major downfall for any politician. After all, they don't get the societal benefit of the doubt that a white man born into wealth would get in this country. It is interesting that you know more about what they say when Trump is the most important political voice right now. I also don't watch cable programming, so I'm wondering what media is prioritizing those women for you? I saw a write up in USA Today when Maxine made those comments. The writer was cheering her on. Rashida was on multiple news channels with that back then. I myself think that shows low class when anyone with any power invites actions like this. These actions and statements were made since Trump was elected, and again, the representatives were unapologetic about the statements they made. While I don't agree with the method or message, at least they don't flounder and backtrack when called to the carpet. And we wonder why society is like it is. JFK and Teddy Roosevelt are turning in their graves knowing that this is not how politicians in either party should conduct themselves.

Now, let's get back to the original topic, we have strayed way to far off of the path....

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toomuchbaloney · Aug 28, 2020

15 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Whether or not you might fit the definition for Trump apologist is a matter of opinion. It's curious to me that you think that two female representatives, out of 535 voices in that chamber, are as influential as the leader of the entire republican party and the executive branch of the federal government. I mean, the Senate majority leader won't even debate legislation unless he's certain that Trump supports it...those women don't have that power.

Again, you seem to be concerned that those women aren't apologetic for their words, but the words of the president are not even worth you reading about them or listening to them, much less expect an apology or accountability or anything. Trump just gets a pass but those women are just so powerful...is that how it is?

Yeah, the topic of this thread is a nonsense attempt to discredit support for Biden. It goes well with nonsense double standards for conduct and language of elected officials as compared to what is tolerated from Trump.

butterflyxoxo · Aug 28, 2020

On 8/25/2020 at 2:21 AM, DMQ48 said:

I remember winning a coloring contest at my grocery store back when I was around that age and the "2nd place" kids mom was arguing with the manager saying mine sucked compared to the other runner-ups. I cried as I accepted my gift basket, it was actually pretty traumatic.

Kids take small stuff very personally. I would imagine an adult, even as low functioning as these ones are, would know this. The mom shouldn't have put her kid in this situation either, just like some of the people bringing their kids to the volatile protests going on right now.

Oh a brighter note, I sometimes think about what a failure I am, but then I watch footage like this and it reminds me that I'm doing OK in life.

I had a similar experience with my own kids. And sadly they were too sad to accept the trophy for a soccer game. Worst part is it was 5 year olds and noone kept score or was supposed to. It was a nice man trying to be a good coach as a volunteer on his own time, he gave his kids trophies he bought and hand made awards for a good job (season). The city did pizza parties for every team at the same location for every team. One nasty family stood up and "boooed" at every team including ours for getting "participation awards" they apparently did not earn. ?

Worst part was, just as you said. Those kids including my 2 kids. Took it personal. They had never played and after trying their best, making new friends and getting exercise and having fun. (which was the only goal) they felt discouraged and sad instead after being told they basically sucked. When did it become okay for adults to belittle small children?

I saw a post on fb the other day of a mom, having her tiny kids hold up protest signs with bad language on it and mean comments. I don't even think the kids could read or write. Yet somehow they should be on street corners to protest "adult" propaganda.

Kids should never be aimed at violence and used to make statements or used as pawns in adult content and issues. It's so wrong. And adults need to start being better role models to children, even if not their own. Myself included. I forget sometimes my opinions and emotions take over, and my own kids see me let it get the best of me. Kids remember that stuff, they hold onto it. I hope we can all get our stuff together and start acting like better people. We truly are a divided country and it's showing in more ways than just politics now. Covid has amplified things on a whole new level it seems.