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Sorry state of Nursing ...

  1. 33 I am a Male RN with about 8 years of work experience in the ER, Prison, Acute PTSD/TBI @ the VA. I came from another Industry (Aviation/Airline), after 9/11 retrained into Nursing with the thought of doing something that "Matters" instead of making a corporation another pile of $$$$. After 8 years this has been my Observation of the current state of affairs within Nursing.
    1) I have never been so poorly treated within a professional career as I have been with nursing, Managers MD's and Patients all use you as a human punching bag (I can tolerate some of this from a sick PT but not my peers and above). Unprofessionalism often rules and vengeful remarks and treatment are the norms..ie... I have heard the following from RN's,MD,managers..."shes a stupid ***** (MD), you need to find another line of work (MBA manager to new grad), "you need to pass those meds faster , whats wrong with you, cant hack it" (Charge RN).
    2) Call offs and low pay...Name any other profession where you have to take hard earned leave or rotate to a totally different unit and are expected to perform (Board of nursing should demand changes to this its unsafe). BSN starting at 17 to 19 a hr nationwide avg...really...MSN with 5 years unless specially trained 60K...for real...(Bank of America pays a avg of 70 k to 100k for mid level MBA's)
    I retired from USAirways in 2003, there were troubles galore with the company..but I was paid well, had exc healthcare...WAS TREATED AS A PROFESSIONAL...WHICH I WAS AND STILL AM.
    Nursing as a profession.......only if you join the service as my wife did (CDR USN ret) ....to a hospital your a expenditure that they work like a dog, then throw away.
    Its a sad state only getting worse as the economy is slow and Obama care will reshape the industry in pay and quality of care.
    Good By Nursing.....it was a experience of a life ...time to do other things.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Sep 17, '13 : Reason: TOS
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  3. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    What will you try next?
    anotherone likes this.
  4. Visit  HouTx profile page
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    It's great to have observations from someone who is qualified to make those comparisons. Are we an "abused child" profession? . . . dealing with poor conditions for so long that it is perceived as normal?
    canoehead, Wise Woman RN, imintrouble, and 17 others like this.
  5. Visit  Been there,done that profile page
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    Male nurses have a more difficult time handling the abuse of nurses. Women are used to it.

    Think about this, Howard.. as a man you got better treatment!

    With 8 years of experience, I wouldn't throw in the towel.
    You have many options in nursing now.

    I work from home as a case manager, making that MBA wage, you can too.
    KeyMaster, imintrouble, OCNRN63, and 11 others like this.
  6. Visit  lub dub profile page
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    BSNs starting at $17/hour? Where?
    Asclepius86, Jay406, poppycat, and 1 other like this.
  7. Visit  Gem0607 profile page
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    Lub dub I think it's possible anywhere. While working in home health with my BSN in Southern Cal, I was only paid $18-$19/hr. I made more than that working in the flu shot clinic.
    Fiona59, anotherone, Esme12, and 1 other like this.
  8. Visit  adventure780 profile page
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    I wouldn't give up eight years of experience I would go for my NP or Clinical Nurse Leader, I only have 2.5 years experience so far, but if I had 8 wouldn't throw in the towel, eight years in healthcare is an achievement!
    prnqday likes this.
  9. Visit  adventure780 profile page
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    Quote from lub dub
    BSNs starting at $17/hour? Where?
    that is way too low for a bsn
  10. Visit  RN 033 profile page
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    My first job as a new grad was filled with unprofessional behavior and disrespect for coworkers. I thought maybe it was just the facility, but after reading so many posts and talking to seasoned nurses, believe it to be common practice. I'm looking for other avenues in nursing where I can continue working without all the drama. Honestly, if I had truly listened to the warnings from people prior to getting my degree, I wish that I had chosen a different profession. I didn't think it would be as bad as what I've experienced.
  11. Visit  MunoRN profile page
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    The nationwide average RN starting salary is $24/hour, while the average Bachelor's degree graduate only makes $21/hr, so we're actually doing much better than most bachelor's grads. As for people with Master's making $60,000 there are many who make less than that, they're called teachers.
    fridayschild, OCNRN63, myelin, and 8 others like this.
  12. Visit  plinytheRN profile page
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    it seems like this is the dark ages of nursing... hoping it gets better, scary to think it could get worse. with acuity and responsibility increasing but pay and time decreasing or not keeping up with the changes.
    1Dreamer, elprup, lindarn, and 3 others like this.
  13. Visit  BSNbeDONE profile page
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    Quote from Gem0607
    Lub dub I think it's possible anywhere. While working in home health with my BSN in Southern Cal, I was only paid $18-$19/hr. I made more than that working in the flu shot clinic.
    Say it isn't so!!!!! I made more than that 11years ago as an LPN! And my LPN pay was $10/hr more as base pay BEFORE I got the RN 3 years ago! Holy cow! I hope this BSN pay you're referring to wasn't in recent years!!!! If so, you guys are on the wrong coast!!!

    And I thought the new grad RNs here were poorly paid at $23/hr. When I was offered this as a new grad RN at a different facility, I walked out because that meant that they weren't offering me zilch for my 20+ years of LPN experience, including med/surg and ventilator experience as an LPN. I don't quiver over pennies but I will fight like hell over a wallet!!!

    To the OP: oh how I wish I knew how to do something else besides sitting on my ***! If I did, I would be right there with you. So for now, two days a week is as close as I can get to freedom. Good luck to you!
    lindarn likes this.
  14. Visit  Howardhughes profile page
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    With regards to pay CMC health system here in CLT was paying 19.00hr for RN ADN grad, +50cents a HR 19.50 for BSN ....I worked at Gaston Comm Hosp along side a MSN with 2 years making 26.00hr (2007). The nationwide average is flawed as Calif/North East pay rates are quite high. No one commented on getting pulled or having to take leave for low pt count...that is a norm for this industry.....its outrageous .......as for me...I plan on devoting time in some fashion to Wounded Warriors ...I have seen way too many kids get sub standard care at the VA.
    ANnot4me, dotoriffic, elprup, and 8 others like this.

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