nurse vs doctors

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hello nurses,

I'm a doctor (keep readind, don't turn off the computer!) who's been qualified approx 2 years. In that time I've met nice doctors, stupid doctors, super inteligent doctors, weird doctors, dedicated doctors and lazy doctors. Also in that time I've met nice nurses, stupid nurses.. You see where I'm going with this? I'm sick and tired of stereotypes from both sides. However as a doctor I have to say that for most of our training, until we make consultant/GP, we are worse off than the nurses. We work much longer hours despite EWTD. We have much more responsibility and thus have more at risk. We are paid less PER-HOUR than nurses; serriously work it out. We are generally stereotyped as cold, unfeeling and patronizing. And finally there's more of you than us so its not fair.

Anywho, another bugbear; who's more inteligent nurses or doctors? well doctors need at least 3 A's at A'level and then have to pass an appetitude test and then compete with ten others for one place in a medical school. Then pass 2-3 sets of exams each year, then pass the first two years before competing again to gain entry into a speciality thus doing publications, research etc, then pass exit exams... so nurses then.

Specializes in Emergency, Trauma, Critical Care.

I think you are taking what he said out of context. He's not picking on anyone, he's simply stating perhaps nurses are smarter because they made the choice to go to less school and make more money...

Different people have different viewpoints.

Specializes in Acute Care Cardiac, Education, Prof Practice.

Whether he is picking on us, or applauding us I still think it is a weird bit of post.

Specializes in Peri-op/Sub-Acute ANP.

I just put my finger on why I found the OP offensive. It is demeaning, to both professions. We spend a great deal of time promoting professionalism and collaboration with other healthcare workers, and then someone like this posts a question that is on a par with “can my Dad beat up your Dad”? It is just juvenile and ridiculous to think that any professional has the time, energy or inclination to post such a ridiculous proposition.

OK, I’m done and off my soapbox now!

Monkeymedic you certainly have more education the most nurses. What are you doing here? And welcome,

Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.

I find it hard to believe there are very many doctors making less than the average nurse.

Actually, Dr's in their residency make less than nurses. At our institution it is 40K/year for residents. And it doesn't go up much from that for junior and senior residents. When you get past fellow, that is where the "Doctor" wages of 100K-200K plus kick in.

And to me it doesn't really matter what your IQ is or how much school you attended. I expect and give respect. Too many Dr's, nurses, etc don't feel they need to give it but expect to get it. That is what makes me angry about Dr's and nurses the most.

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.
I find it hard to believe there are very many doctors making less than the average nurse.

Jules monkeymedic is a doctor in the UK, they are restricted by the european working time directive and can work no more than 56 hours a week, this will reduce to 48 shortly. Your basic pay rate for a junior doctor complient with the EWTD will be £28,976 - £38,336 pa. This will be for the hours worked. A band 6 nurse in the Uk (which will be an experienced nurse with generally at least 2 years post qualification) will work a maximum of 37.5 hours each week and the pay rates are £23,458 to £31,779 pa.

In prinicple it is possible for the hourly rate of the nurse to be greater than the hourly rate of the doctor because of the number of hours worked.

It is rare for the docs to be on the lowest pay grade (bear in mind these are new grads fresh from med school and in jobs where they are 100% complient with the hours) but it does happen

I stopped after "inteligent"

Get spellcheck

umm did you guys not read the entire post?

recap:

in his area doctors work more hours, go through more schooling, and get paid less.

therefore, nurses have chosen the better career path.

WOW that was soooooooooo offensive. let's bash him on his spelling!

I think you guys need to recheck your reading comprehension - the doctor finishes his long diatribe about how much work he had to do to become an MD with "so, nurses"..as in, nurses are the smarter ones, for not going through all that and still making more per hour. Cute post, doc :nurse:

I agree. :D

Welcome Monkeymedic! :grpwlcm:

steph

umm did you guys not read the entire post?

recap:

in his area doctors work more hours, go through more schooling, and get paid less.

therefore, nurses have chosen the better career path.

WOW that was soooooooooo offensive. let's bash him on his spelling!

Exactly - we've all made typos and misspelled words.

See how quick we are to jump to the conclusion that we are being put down? Maybe the op has a point about stereotypes.

It has gone on so long - it is a knee-jerk reaction.

Take a deep breath . . . .:D

Specializes in Cardiac.

It wasn't just one word spelled incorrectly (at least 7). It was grammar, words not capitalized, punctuation, etc...

I don't know of a single Dr who would feel good about posting something that makes him look so incompetent. I mean, this looks like it was sent in via text message.

Some words spelled incorrectly here and there are fine, but it's the whole tone of the post that has made everyone question him. It just sounds poorly written.

I smell another troll.

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