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I had a 6th grader come in today that I have never seen before. His complaint was that he was having a hard time making sentences and that his R hand had gone a little numb earlier. He had tears in his eyes and repeated a few things.

I don't know this student and you guys all know that we get all kinds of weird complaints. The tears made me think something was going on (such as he forgot his homework and was worried about being in trouble). So I had him call his mom and then I got on the phone with her and she said he wasn't making much sense and she stressed that he is usually really well spoken and takes honors classes. So now I was starting to get the idea that he was really not acting himself. I told the mom to come get him.

After that, I called the teacher that he had come from and he told me that the student had been having a hard time articulating what he wanted. Not really aphasic, but more like trouble word finding. He told me that because he is such a trustworthy student, he told him "Would I say yes to whatever it is you're asking for?" and the student said yes so he said "Just go ahead then" and I'm so glad he came to my office!

His neuro checks and VS were all WNL and he wasn't showing any confusion. When he said he was feeling the numbness again to his R hand, I checked grip strength again and it was even. I asked him to tell me about his morning to see if he had trouble remembering details or trouble saying any of the words. He did ok. But, again, today was the first day I met him. When I described what had happened to another of his teachers and my principal they were both shocked and said that it is way out of character for him.

I am going to call the mom and see how the dr appt went (they were heading straight there from the school). Crossing my fingers that he is OK!

I wonder how they knew it was a mini stroke. Did anything show on studies?

When I talked to the mom on Friday, nothing had shown on MRI or CT. He was having an EEG later that day, so I'm assuming that when it showed. He is having another EEG this Friday to assess for further changes.

Specializes in ED, School Nurse.

Wow!! Nice catch, kidz. Glad mom listened to you, and glad you listened to your gut.

That's terrifying. I'm so happy you were there and listened to this kid. Poor boy he must have been so scared 😦

Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.
Hahhahahahhahaa, Snowy, I cannot take you seriously with that avatar.

I think I've been Indiana Jones long enough...I don't like change but maybe it's time.....that's a good one Snowy

I think I've been Indiana Jones long enough...I don't like change but maybe it's time.....that's a good one Snowy

Noooooooooo, how will we KNOW you?

But if you DO change, make sure there's a red shirt involved.

Specializes in retired LTC.

OP - ty for updating us. So many of us really appreciate the comebacks and we feel left in the lurch when we never find out how things resolve.

I also think it's amazing how so many of us have SUCH noisy 'guts' that we wisely listen to.

Good catch.

Specializes in critical care.

That's so scary, OP! I was actually going to guess seizures. They can present in such odd ways. Glad this kid fought through this communication struggle, glad you listened to your instinct, and glad mom was on it as well! This poor kid.... I can't imagine starting on anticoagulation and getting the battery of tests and specialists we send our grown ups to. He's too young to have all of this in his world. 😢

Specializes in retired LTC.

You know, I was thinking CVA/TIA when I first read OP's post. I don't do kiddos, but I was thinking those S&S sounded soooo appropriate for an adult/geriatric pt, but for kids??? Knowing that dx was so atypical for so young a pt did give me pause. But I've always held that ANYTHING is possible in healthcare esp when it come to illness. And I have heard of it before altho it is rare.

I've learned to go with my hunches aka 'listening to my gut' even when I've met with skepticism and resistance. Advocacy can be a tough road to follow.

Again, KUDOS to OP.

The more years I do this job, the more often I am thinking Zebras…

Thanks for all the support, Friends!!

Specializes in Pedi.

I hope they are doing more of a work-up. Pediatric strokes are extremely rare, if a kid is having TIAs, something is causing them. Kid needs an MRA or an Angiogram to rule out (or in) things like an AVM, aneurysm, Moya Moya disease. (Spent 5 years in Pediatric Neuro = seen the rarest of the rare diagnoses.)

Found this interesting..Seems even the experts sometimes can't be sure what is going on with stroke symptoms.

Is It A Stroke Or Complex Migraine Headache Syndrome? - Michele Jacobson______________NutritionPrescription

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