I have been belittled by medstudents numerous times. the whole "You don't know as much" or "You didn't go to school as long as a doc" always comes up. what is is that they have to prove to me? why do they do this?
Where is the respect???
This is a direct quote i received from a medical student
"Ha! Most of you ***s are just registered nurses... which is what most people who can't aspire to anything greater or just can't handle medical school... I may be a student now and you might think high and mighty because youre registered... but one day i'll probably be your boss... so suck it..."
how do i deal with this? i just ignore it, but it sooo unprofessional
I am not in any way talking badly about medical students, i am just wondering if any of you have had this kind of behavior happen, over heard it, etc. and how i should handle this. please no rude responses.
This I know from life experiences. People who belittle others are actually insecure about themselves. Whether they hold big positions or not so big positions means nothing.
Think about what you would accomplish by reporting them to the Dean of their medical school. Could you get them reprimanded, or kicked out of school? Maybe, maybe not. How would you feel later about that? Is that the goal you are trying to accomplish? Is it worth the cost?
Your pride is hurt, I understand. (I was the victim of a serial "disruptive physician" this weekend, so I really do understand.) If you are looking to hurt them back, does that make you any better than them? I don't think so. Is there any meanness or anger behind your decision to report them? If so, do you want to act on that emotion, and if you do, how will you feel about yourself afterward?
The result (I'm guessing) that you really want is for them to respect the nursing profession, and you personally as a member of the profession. Does reporting them to the Dean accomplish that? More than likely, no. Does it stop them from doing the same to other nurses they will encounter? Probably not.
Getting them punished for their actions is a negative consequence, not a positive consequence. I personally think people respond a lot better to positive reinforcement than negative reinforcement.
Don't worry so much about what someone else thinks of you. Behave in an appropriate, professional manner, and you will lead by example and show others who in this situation is the person deserving of their respect.
I'd have been content with responding "Dude, you're going to have a nasty wake up call if you hit the wards with that attitude, and you'll only be my boss if you switch from medicine to nursing" then blocked the guy and move on :)
I have been belittled by medstudents numerous times. the whole "You don't know as much" or "You didn't go to school as long as a doc" always comes up. what is is that they have to prove to me? why do they do this?
Where is the respect???
This is a direct quote i received from a medical student
"Ha! Most of you ***s are just registered nurses... which is what most people who can't aspire to anything greater or just can't handle medical school... I may be a student now and you might think high and mighty because youre registered... but one day i'll probably be your boss... so suck it..."
how do i deal with this? i just ignore it, but it sooo unprofessional
I am not in any way talking badly about medical students, i am just wondering if any of you have had this kind of behavior happen, over heard it, etc. and how i should handle this. please no rude responses.
I would report any medical student who acted that way or said those things.
That/those students just don't realize what a dangerous game they are playing when they belittle a nurse.
This is a friend of a friend i met who lives out of state, him and his "medstudent " buddies decided to have a very public "nurses are dumb" rant on facebook. i of course, stepped in very respectfully and told them that it was wrong of them to do this. To which extent, i got this heinous reply from one of his facbook friends. All of whom live out of state.
I haven't read all the posts yet, but I'd guess that the poster must be very early in his medical career (I assumed the friend to be male, because that particular flavor of trash talk sounds male to me). If he actually spent any time on a teaching medical floor, he'd be too busy laundering his underwear to spend such idle time with facebook flames. My experience with med students is much like what others have said here.
Thank you everyone who posted the respectful responses. I decided to Ignore what they said about nurses because there is nothing i can do. also, i am appalled at all the rude responses this post brought me. Am i such a bad person for wanting to stick up for nurses? but i'm just going to ignore that too, i'll think twice before bringing my problems to allnurses.
A lot of schools, with their more "professional" programs (med school, law school, MBA, really any of the master's and up programs) highly frown upon such behavior on FB, as it makes the school look bad. I don't think you'll have to report it. At some point, they're going to open their mouths at the wrong time (obviously they can't keep it shut on a public website) they're going to "out" themselves without you're needing to report them.
They got lucky and tried to squabble with one of our youngun's. Believe me, it won't be long before they get their butts handed to them by a Ruby Vee or other "mama nurse." Or even just a "big sister nurse" as I consider myself, as I'm not wise enough yet to be a "mama nurse." Not to mention, attendings don't like you to make the nursing staff mad either. And well, attendings can make or break a med student's entire career. They don't get rid of that attitude, they aren't going to be ANYONE'S boss.
So, we intentionally give somebody a substance that causes negative physiological consequences, and it's funny?
Yes it is and if you ever served you would know why. Let's cut the drama with "substance" it was protein powder and not some medication or drug they were giving him. As far as physically altering I doubt it. Do you k ow how much protein you would need to giving someone to make that happen? My guess is the guy was eating whatever and not exercising enough to burn the extra calories.
Thank you everyone who posted the respectful responses. I decided to Ignore what they said about nurses because there is nothing i can do. also, i am appalled at all the rude responses this post brought me. Am i such a bad person for wanting to stick up for nurses? but i'm just going to ignore that too, i'll think twice before bringing my problems to allnurses.
Respectfully, I didn't see any rude posts nor have I seen anyone call you a bad person. The reality is that many of us disagreed with your original position and gave our reasons for that. Please consider that, possibly, projection may be coloring your perceptions of what we had to say.
So i'll just leave it alone. I'm just really conflicted. I have come to realize that people really look down on other people who try to get involved in these kinds of issues, even if it is the "right" thing to do. This reminds me of the time i was in school, and a male student had grabbed me on the bottom, so i told the teacher. And the entire class hated me for "getting him kicked out" but i thought that he got himself kicked out with his own actions.
Despite the fact that what i did was the textbook thing to do, i still was looked down upon by my peers because i was a "tattle tail".
I too have felt that sort of sting, reprimanded when someone violated my personal space. Some things, well, just have to be let go. It would be different, if this person said this to you directly, face to face... This is obviously someone who is quite insecure. I hope you choose the right thing for you to do...and perhaps not tell AllNurses.com about it. Some things are best left unsaid... Best wishes...
I don't want to stir the pot here, but I want to stick up for LPNweezy and tell her I support whatever she decides to do.
Something similar happened a few years ago at a med school in Canada. I WARN you, do not go to the following link if you are easily excitable because it will (and should) disturb you beyond belief.
It is a song that residents made about nurses when they were only in their 3rd year. I was shocked at the disrespect and that this song was actually conducted at a party. However, the DON for nurses got wind of it and from what I understand there eventually was significant consequences.
If these med students you are dealing with are really stupid enough to put their opinions on a public domain, they are subject to discipline. They are representatives of their organization, and I, by contract, am "highly encouraged" not to put anything on a facebook or other site that would offend my place of employment or co-workers. I am sure their school promotes the same behavior.
LPNweezy you may also contact the Center for Nurse Advocacy which is an organization that specializes in the image of nursing and can provide you with wonderful ideas for dealing with harassment that may not necessarily end the careers of these less than reasonable individuals, but may make them think before they speak next time.
Good luck and thank you young nurse for taking such pride in your new profession.
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thomasl
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This I know from life experiences. People who belittle others are actually insecure about themselves. Whether they hold big positions or not so big positions means nothing.