Why Do Nurses Eat Their Own?

As current times have shown, we're short staffed. Administration wants to make money. So cuts are made to equipment and man power. Who has your back? Who can you rely on? Your fellow nurses? I'm not so sure anymore. Why do we as nurses eat our own when we should be teaching them and guarding them as our own. The fact is as we age our young nurses are going to be taking care of us, but there are those all too eager beavers who will in fact burn you. This is my experience. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

This is my own personal experience as to why nurses eat their own? I have been in nursing for 20+ years. I've watched a lot of nurses come and go and some trying to move up that corporate food chain leaving a path of destruction a mile wide in their path. It's a very sad thing to have witnessed nursing go from a caring environment to a volatile, stressful, "me" environment.

I personally have never thrown anyone under the bus but I have been thrown under the bus by a nurse trying to move up. I was shocked, not to be naive but how callus and calculating this nurse had become in such a short period of time. She was a new grad. I took her under my wing, taught her in a specialty area just to be told shortly thereafter that there were going to be cuts in this area, and I was one of the people being cut along with approximately 20 more nurses. I then found out that my underling I had taught was at the helm of helping administration make these cuts based on who had been there longest, made the most per hour and new grads or new hires would be cheaper. So it was done and my underling moved up to an office of ease while the rest of us were dispersed throughout the facility or some even let go destroying lives and careers.

Once moved to another area of the facility I witnessed a male nurse dating several other female nurses turning them against each other and ending up dating a charge nurse that was best friends with the manager of that department, so they were allowed to cuddle up at the nurses' station and pretty much did nothing else other than sneak outside. Yes all of this was reported by others than myself, however administration didn't care, bottom line was man hours not pt care.

I've since left that facility after many years. I am now at a new facility and have already picked up on the "eager" young nurses more than willing to talk behind other nurses' backs. This is disappointing. The nursing school and instructors of old that I had the privilege of going to and being taught by would be appalled and would not have tolerated for one moment. Is loyalty, character and earning your title without harming something taught in nursing schools? Should certain psychiatric characters be red flags for school administrators be implemented to prevent cannibalism within nursing?

I feel as if those great women who pioneered nursing to care for the sick, indigent and wounded would be so saddened by the "General Hospital", "Grays Anatomy"; "high school acting" nurses of today. On that note I don't want to diminish the fact that nurses have to be go-getters, usually type A, hungry for knowledge; however there's a professional line where we should have each other's back.

Nurses go to college to achieve a degree of higher learning along with all the nursing classes. You're professionals, intellectuals. Would you compromise your name, integrity and reputation for a easier schedule, a desk job, an office? All you have to do is help relocate or terminate 20 to 25 fellow nurses?

I am curious to the opinions of others, so please post. BTW this underling was moved back down the food chain and eventually out the door and with no friends or references to rely on now.

Before going down this road ask yourself. Why did I become a nurse? To help others who need it or to eat my young? If you answer or turn into the later, I fear you may be in the wrong profession...

Ruby Vee said:
So either you feel bullying is an issue or you're a bully? Bovine feces! There are plenty of us out there who think bullying as an issue is mostly in the eye of the beholder (meaning that many of those incidents presented as "bullying" are nothing of the sort) and do not participate in bullying of any sort.

And if you want to insult us, it's "Biter nurse", not bitter.

Ummm, I stole your line, Your Majesty. Scroll up.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
SmilingBluEyes said:
Nope cause, the ANA will fix it allllll for us.

:laugh:

Yes, they have alll the answers...

If I knew that, I should've called them up when management were targeting and pushing people out the door...

How they KNEW they were staffing poorly because of their action, and yet, nothing.

I can go on and on about how nursing was severely cut, affecting pt safety.

If that was the case that ANA would "fight for us," my hospital and my unit would've been fixed by now...poor us...using our allegedly biter ;) lazy uneducated selves to organize and now force corporate to do by us the MAIN reason why they make their money-NURSING care.

Ok...

JimmyDurham9 said:
I have more important things to do than carry this on. Everyone is entitled to their own brand of ignorance should they so elect. This is not a rationale, educated discussion of issues. It's devolved into petty arguing and pitting nurses who feel bullying is an issue against the nurses who deny it is an issue and participate in it.

How on earth did you arrive at the conclusion that any of the nurses on this thread not only deny bullying is an issue but "participate" in bullying, other than the fact that not everyone has agreed with your viewpoint? Does that constitute "bullying"?

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Farawyn said:
Ummm, I stole your line, Your Majesty. Scroll up.

But it's My line!

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I find it quite telling and interesting that to hold a differing opinion or strong disagreement is to be accused of "bullying" or "ignorance" from certain people. Sign of the times? If so, we are indeed in trouble. I, for one, can agree to disagree without getting so up in arms or losing my composure.

Well said! As a seasoned nurse(22 years) I left an area of nursing that I LOVED because a leadership position was given to a nurse with 3 years experience while she slept her way up the corporate ladder! married doctors, residents, etc. very disturbing. I had to leave! But I left with my dignity!

Ruby Vee said:
But it's My line!

Don't bully me. :locktopic:

elkpark said:
How on earth did you arrive at the conclusion that any of the nurses on this thread not only deny bullying is an issue but "participate" in bullying, other than the fact that not everyone has agreed with your viewpoint? Does that constitute "bullying"?

Kind of proved my point for me. I love it when that happens.

Specializes in Pediatrics.
Farawyn said:

If the environment is truly toxic, change jobs.

This is not rocket science.

Not everyone wants to change jobs for a lot of reasons including the proximity to home, the type of client, and where we fit in best. I fully disagree with having to move around because people are "toxic." And you are right, people are becoming more and more toxic as though this is business as usual and everyone either suck it up and take it or leave. It is a lousy philosophy if you ask me. How about all toxic people get a pink slip and the rest of us can work in peace? ?

Sensibility said:
Not everyone wants to change jobs for a lot of reasons including the proximity to home, the type of client, and where we fit in best. I fully disagree with having to move around because people are "toxic." And you are right, people are becoming more and more toxic as though this is business as usual and everyone either suck it up and take it or leave. It is a lousy philosophy if you ask me. How about all toxic people get a pink slip and the rest of us can work in peace? ?

I don't think people are becoming more and more toxic. I've repeatedly said that I have worked with great co-workers and friends. I worked in one "toxic" environment, tried to "be the change", couldn't, so I left after 2 years.

Don't put words in my mouth. You have to work with all kinds in this world. It builds character. Truly toxic? Avoid. If they don't leave for your convenience? Move on for your own health.

I think people are becoming more and more fragile and less resilient, but a good work ethic can be learned.

I am a nurse with over 40 years of experience, the last 8 as a nursing instructor. I see the seeds of the "underling" you mentioned in many of my students. Unfortunately, the "me first" culture of today has spawned a generation of selfish, self-absorbed, entitled people who will stop at nothing to get what they want. They say they want to become nurses to "help people", but they are not willing to put in the time and effort to gain the knowledge they need to do this safely. If they fail a course, the fact that a book was never opened has nothing to do with it. it is the instructor's fault. "The tests are too hard!", "That was never taught in class (even if the pages are on the syllabus!); "You used another source for lecture-you can't do that!" I was subjected to vicious personal attacks, both to my face and on social media, even threatened with legal action. After over 40 years of enjoying a sterling professional reputation, I was trashed; my reputation destroyed in our small town. It got so bad that I had to leave the college where I taught. I am sure that once these people eventually graduate, they will behave in the same manner as "underling".

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
valmick said:
I am a nurse with over 40 years of experience, the last 8 as a nursing instructor. I see the seeds of the "underling" you mentioned in many of my students. Unfortunately, the "me first" culture of today has spawned a generation of selfish, self-absorbed, entitled people who will stop at nothing to get what they want. They say they want to become nurses to "help people", but they are not willing to put in the time and effort to gain the knowledge they need to do this safely. If they fail a course, the fact that a book was never opened has nothing to do with it. it is the instructor's fault. "The tests are too hard!", "That was never taught in class (even if the pages are on the syllabus!); "You used another source for lecture-you can't do that!" I was subjected to vicious personal attacks, both to my face and on social media, even threatened with legal action. After over 40 years of enjoying a sterling professional reputation, I was trashed; my reputation destroyed in our small town. It got so bad that I had to leave the college where I taught. I am sure that once these people eventually graduate, they will behave in the same manner as "underling".

I wish I thought you were exaggerating, but I know you're not. I hear the same thing from my friends who are nursing instructors.