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Why Do Nurses Eat Their Own?

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As current times have shown, we're short staffed. Administration wants to make money. So cuts are made to equipment and man power. Who has your back? Who can you rely on? Your fellow nurses? I'm not so sure anymore. Why do we as nurses eat our own when we should be teaching them and guarding them as our own. The fact is as we age our young nurses are going to be taking care of us, but there are those all too eager beavers who will in fact burn you. This is my experience. You are reading page 23 of Why Do Nurses Eat Their Own?. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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This is something that happens in all professions. Take sales as an example, constant competition to stand out and sadly integrity rarely plays a part in it. My husband was in sales for most of his working life. He had been "thrown under the 🚌 many times over 30 plus years. His own integrity was more important than the people he was competing with. He has experienced being overlooked for pay raises( long story when he was young), and better positions because he was honest and believed in treating customers right. He stayed in sales because he loved it and dealing with people . He didn't stoop to lowering his integrety to get ahead in life and he feels good about himself because of that. I think others here have said it right, focus on the positive and if the almighty dollar changes things too much at your place of work, change where you work if possible. You can't control what others do, but you can change what you do and where you work if needed.

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hate cranky selfish nurses grrrr

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Now, kindly forgive me for only reading the 1st 10 pages before posting..

My view is that there a more'n a few issues here..

As a hospital trained psych nurse, starting as a teen, in `79,

I have received a thorough grounding in coping with abnormal psychology..

..but then family life & schooling.. had given me a good start anyhow..

However, I will add, that having also been through an 'academic education'

in nursing, later in life, I can state that many students who are taking places

as potential nurses, & as expectant clients/paying customers of these institutions..

Would not have made the cut.. in the practical old-school hands-on,

paid for duty.. ( & so held to meeting real advancement norms) .. &..

..demonstrated clinical competence/responsibility in hospital-based training..

The other matter of 'Nurse Ratched' control freak types, has, I feel, become

worse, since the business-focused 'administration' style - has taken over..

( & which relies on psychopath spectrum personalities) with clinical care relegated,

as a quaint concept, unless immediately quantifiable per cost, actuarial-wise..

More later, when I've read the balance of entries..

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In my opinion, we can't like or satisfy everyone regardless what profession it is.

We are not perfect human. If there are some people who don't like us or we don't like them but we still need to work with them, so we can just maintain professional work relationship with them. Not everyone can be a friend but there will be some people still can be a friend.

Maintaining peaceful work environment should be the goal for every nurses in order to provide good quality of nursing care and teamwork

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Now, kindly forgive me for only reading the 1st 10 pages before posting..

My view is that there a more'n a few issues here..

As a hospital trained psych nurse, starting as a teen, in `79,

I have received a thorough grounding in coping with abnormal psychology..

..but then family life & schooling.. had given me a good start anyhow..

However, I will add, that having also been through an 'academic education'

in nursing, later in life, I can state that many students who are taking places

as potential nurses, & as expectant clients/paying customers of these institutions..

Would not have made the cut.. in the practical old-school hands-on,

paid for duty.. ( & so held to meeting real advancement norms) .. &..

..demonstrated clinical competence/responsibility in hospital-based training..

The other matter of 'Nurse Ratched' control freak types, has, I feel, become

worse, since the business-focused 'administration' style - has taken over..

( & which relies on psychopath spectrum personalities) with clinical care relegated,

as a quaint concept, unless immediately quantifiable per cost, actuarial-wise..

More later, when I've read the balance of entries..

I am thoroughly looking forward to your analysis of this. I have to imagine that you are going to look at this and reference the works of Michel Foucault and Erving Goffman.

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as a new nurse, i just have to comment due to some people getting offended by this....I can't help but think, a little too close to home maybe? Even when i was in nursing school, when one of the girls i was in school was arguing with one of the teachers, and she actually smiled and said, "but don't you know? nurses eat their young" They even gave us statistics on the bullying of new nurses, and it was to prepare us and toughen us up. I was incredibly blessed that at my new job there is a nurse that had been in the field for 30 years and is always willing to answer my questions and demonstrate things for me. I think instead of everyone going for the writer of this article, people should evaluate their "instant expectations" of new nurses.

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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN and specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

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as a new nurse, i just have to comment due to some people getting offended by this....I can't help but think, a little too close to home maybe? Even when i was in nursing school, when one of the girls i was in school was arguing with one of the teachers, and she actually smiled and said, "but don't you know? nurses eat their young" They even gave us statistics on the bullying of new nurses, and it was to prepare us and toughen us up. I was incredibly blessed that at my new job there is a nurse that had been in the field for 30 years and is always willing to answer my questions and demonstrate things for me. I think instead of everyone going for the writer of this article, people should evaluate their "instant expectations" of new nurses.

Bless your heart!

You're a new nurse, but you know that nurses eat their young because your teacher told you so . . . Complete with statistics, eh? Can't argue with that, can we? STATISTICS don't lie . . . Or do they? Who was it that said there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics?

Speaking as a proud member of the Crusty Old Bat Society, I can assure you that most of what is complained about on this site as "horizontal violence," "lateral violence," "bullying" or "nurses eating their young" is no such thing. I think that instead of accusing everyone who disagrees with the premise of the original article of bullying (because that's what you're doing, isn't it?) you ought to think for yourself. You wound up with a colleague who has been in the field for thirty years and is always willing to answer questions and demonstrate things for you.

If you go looking for bullies, you will find them -- even if there are no bullies where you work. Why not instead look for crusty old bats who are willing to answer your questions and demonstrate stuff?

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I am thoroughly looking forward to your analysis of this. I have to imagine that you are going to look at this and reference the works of Michel Foucault and Erving Goffman.

Sorry, but I can only post the abstract up here..

..as the full text is available as pay-per-view only .. l.o.l...

( but sure, do check out the 'Steven Reiss 16' - he's available free online )..

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NursesRmofun is a ASN, RN and specializes in Registered Nurse.

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When I think about it, it makes me laugh because I don't really think it's about eating young...I think the young eat the older as well. It's just what is inside any particular person. I knew a 30 or under person who was new at the profession who loved to make the assignment and literally kick her feet up a good deal of the shift. She learned early how to treat herself well. And, for her, it was never about the patient. It was about the money. I'm sure it happens in all professions from Burger King to Wall Street. LOL And, yes, it's an old topic....

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NursesRmofun is a ASN, RN and specializes in Registered Nurse.

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...Because they sprinkle themselves with Old Bay and lay on the plate with white paper socks on.

bahahahaha!!!

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I have NO problem with the TITLE. Don't take everything so serious. Isn't our job stressful enough. I was a grad nurse that was "treated terrible". I was a CNA on the same unit I worked on s/p taking my state boards. It was horrible. I am now a Supervisor. All I learned from being eaten alive is HOW NOT TO ACT....ALWAYS BE HUMBLE AND KIND!

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QTBabyNurse has 18 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Obstetrics/Case Management/MIS/Quality.

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Nurses do eat their young in my opinion. It's one of the reasons why I left the bedside and I see it quite often in my rounding on the units. Not sure why they do it.....I just know that it happens. My daughter told me recently that when she transferred from the Ortho floor that she was on for years to a Mom/Baby unit that the nurses were a lot more critical of each other and back stabbing. They weren't competing for any advancements....they were just mean people. I find that very sad and perhaps this thread will prompt people to think before they speak and be aware of how they treat people in general.

I have found through many years in the nursing profession, that nurses will find whatever it is they expect to find.

Here's a quote to remember "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."--Dr. Wayne Dyer

This may be helpful to you and your daughter moving forward.

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