Why Do Nurses Eat Their Own?

As current times have shown, we're short staffed. Administration wants to make money. So cuts are made to equipment and man power. Who has your back? Who can you rely on? Your fellow nurses? I'm not so sure anymore. Why do we as nurses eat our own when we should be teaching them and guarding them as our own. The fact is as we age our young nurses are going to be taking care of us, but there are those all too eager beavers who will in fact burn you. This is my experience. Nurses Announcements Archive Article

This is my own personal experience as to why nurses eat their own? I have been in nursing for 20+ years. I've watched a lot of nurses come and go and some trying to move up that corporate food chain leaving a path of destruction a mile wide in their path. It's a very sad thing to have witnessed nursing go from a caring environment to a volatile, stressful, "me" environment.

I personally have never thrown anyone under the bus but I have been thrown under the bus by a nurse trying to move up. I was shocked, not to be naive but how callus and calculating this nurse had become in such a short period of time. She was a new grad. I took her under my wing, taught her in a specialty area just to be told shortly thereafter that there were going to be cuts in this area, and I was one of the people being cut along with approximately 20 more nurses. I then found out that my underling I had taught was at the helm of helping administration make these cuts based on who had been there longest, made the most per hour and new grads or new hires would be cheaper. So it was done and my underling moved up to an office of ease while the rest of us were dispersed throughout the facility or some even let go destroying lives and careers.

Once moved to another area of the facility I witnessed a male nurse dating several other female nurses turning them against each other and ending up dating a charge nurse that was best friends with the manager of that department, so they were allowed to cuddle up at the nurses' station and pretty much did nothing else other than sneak outside. Yes all of this was reported by others than myself, however administration didn't care, bottom line was man hours not pt care.

I've since left that facility after many years. I am now at a new facility and have already picked up on the "eager" young nurses more than willing to talk behind other nurses' backs. This is disappointing. The nursing school and instructors of old that I had the privilege of going to and being taught by would be appalled and would not have tolerated for one moment. Is loyalty, character and earning your title without harming something taught in nursing schools? Should certain psychiatric characters be red flags for school administrators be implemented to prevent cannibalism within nursing?

I feel as if those great women who pioneered nursing to care for the sick, indigent and wounded would be so saddened by the "General Hospital", "Grays Anatomy"; "high school acting" nurses of today. On that note I don't want to diminish the fact that nurses have to be go-getters, usually type A, hungry for knowledge; however there's a professional line where we should have each other's back.

Nurses go to college to achieve a degree of higher learning along with all the nursing classes. You're professionals, intellectuals. Would you compromise your name, integrity and reputation for a easier schedule, a desk job, an office? All you have to do is help relocate or terminate 20 to 25 fellow nurses?

I am curious to the opinions of others, so please post. BTW this underling was moved back down the food chain and eventually out the door and with no friends or references to rely on now.

Before going down this road ask yourself. Why did I become a nurse? To help others who need it or to eat my young? If you answer or turn into the later, I fear you may be in the wrong profession...

as a new nurse, i just have to comment due to some people getting offended by this....I can't help but think, a little too close to home maybe? Even when i was in nursing school, when one of the girls i was in school was arguing with one of the teachers, and she actually smiled and said, "but don't you know? nurses eat their young" They even gave us statistics on the bullying of new nurses, and it was to prepare us and toughen us up. I was incredibly blessed that at my new job there is a nurse that had been in the field for 30 years and is always willing to answer my questions and demonstrate things for me. I think instead of everyone going for the writer of this article, people should evaluate their "instant expectations" of new nurses.

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
animatedimp said:
as a new nurse, i just have to comment due to some people getting offended by this....I can't help but think, a little too close to home maybe? Even when i was in nursing school, when one of the girls i was in school was arguing with one of the teachers, and she actually smiled and said, "but don't you know? nurses eat their young" They even gave us statistics on the bullying of new nurses, and it was to prepare us and toughen us up. I was incredibly blessed that at my new job there is a nurse that had been in the field for 30 years and is always willing to answer my questions and demonstrate things for me. I think instead of everyone going for the writer of this article, people should evaluate their "instant expectations" of new nurses.

Bless your heart!

You're a new nurse, but you know that nurses eat their young because your teacher told you so . . . Complete with statistics, eh? Can't argue with that, can we? STATISTICS don't lie . . . Or do they? Who was it that said there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics?

Speaking as a proud member of the Crusty Old Bat Society, I can assure you that most of what is complained about on this site as "horizontal violence," "lateral violence," "bullying" or "nurses eating their young" is no such thing. I think that instead of accusing everyone who disagrees with the premise of the original article of bullying (because that's what you're doing, isn't it?) you ought to think for yourself. You wound up with a colleague who has been in the field for thirty years and is always willing to answer questions and demonstrate things for you.

If you go looking for bullies, you will find them -- even if there are no bullies where you work. Why not instead look for crusty old bats who are willing to answer your questions and demonstrate stuff?

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banterings said:
I am thoroughly looking forward to your analysis of this. I have to imagine that you are going to look at this and reference the works of Michel Foucault and Erving Goffman.

Sorry, but I can only post the abstract up here..

..as the full text is available as pay-per-view only .. l.o.l...

( but sure, do check out the 'Steven Reiss 16' - he's available free online )..

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Specializes in Registered Nurse.

When I think about it, it makes me laugh because I don't really think it's about eating young...I think the young eat the older as well. It's just what is inside any particular person. I knew a 30 or under person who was new at the profession who loved to make the assignment and literally kick her feet up a good deal of the shift. She learned early how to treat herself well. And, for her, it was never about the patient. It was about the money. I'm sure it happens in all professions from Burger King to Wall Street. LOL And, yes, it's an old topic....

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I have NO problem with the TITLE. Don't take everything so serious. Isn't our job stressful enough. I was a grad nurse that was "treated terrible". I was a CNA on the same unit I worked on s/p taking my state boards. It was horrible. I am now a Supervisor. All I learned from being eaten alive is HOW NOT TO ACT....ALWAYS BE HUMBLE AND KIND!

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Specializes in Obstetrics/Case Management/MIS/Quality.
Slhengy said:
Nurses do eat their young in my opinion. It's one of the reasons why I left the bedside and I see it quite often in my rounding on the units. Not sure why they do it.....I just know that it happens. My daughter told me recently that when she transferred from the Ortho floor that she was on for years to a Mom/Baby unit that the nurses were a lot more critical of each other and back stabbing. They weren't competing for any advancements....they were just mean people. I find that very sad and perhaps this thread will prompt people to think before they speak and be aware of how they treat people in general.

I have found through many years in the nursing profession, that nurses will find whatever it is they expect to find.

Here's a quote to remember "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."--Dr. Wayne Dyer

This may be helpful to you and your daughter moving forward.

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
QTBabyNurse said:
I have found through many years in the nursing profession, that nurses will find whatever it is they expect to find.

Here's a quote to remember "When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."--Dr. Wayne Dyer

This may be helpful to you and your daughter moving forward.

I think you're exactly right, and I wish I could have said it as well myself!

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Specializes in ER, Paeds, Gen Surg.

I also have worked with such wonderful groups of people since I graduated in 1982. And - the climbers can go right ahead - I also will gladly step aside - because I like bedside care. BUT - I did get thrown under the bus last August and they backed up and went over me again to make sure I was unable to work. And the driver of the bus was a climber.

I am still working with Union and HR to get back to work. In an occupation that is supposed to be caring and supportive - it might have been at one time - but it sure saddens me to see what it has become. At least in my little part of the world. I can't speak for everyone.

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Specializes in PICU, Pediatrics, Trauma.

I haven't read any other responses yet...You spoke my mind and heart and I want to respond from there, without other's opinions clouding my point of view. Yes, even at my ripe age I can still see "the other side" and sometimes doubt my perspective. In this case, I have no inclination to do so as I feel very strongly about this topic. I know I risk criticism...oh well, here goes....

I started in Nursing as an LVN in 1982. I became an RN in 1995. Change is good. Expansion is good. Throwing away the baby with the bath water is NOT good, and this is what I believe has happened, to a large degree, in our profession of Nursing.

It has always taken a "special" type of person to even consider this profession. That hasn't changed. The education and training was grueling, and still is. You always have had to want to help people...no change there. It has always required HARD work...it has become "insanely" hard work now, but for a variety of reasons very few of which has anything to do with the nurses. This is what has changed with nurses...

When I was a student and a new grad, the older, experienced nurses were respected. We young ones looked up to them. We eagerly gave up our seats when one entered the nursing station. We didn't want to get in the way...they were busy and we were there either to learn a lot or the bare minimum by their good graces. Yes, they were sometimes grouchy and hard on us, but it was extremely rare that we were mal-treated. When we towed our line, they pulled us up under their wings. Occasionally, one didn't much care for another, but do not let someone from the outside overly criticize or be harsh with that one, before the other was right there to defend her. When someone was over their head or struggled with something, at least one, if not two were right there to save the day...We were continually taught by one another, and once you worked hard, tried your best and made progress, you got a well-deserved pat on the back. At that point, your opinion mattered as much as anyone's and we tackled our challenges

TO-GE-THER.

When my day came where I was ready to teach/mentor/precept, I was as protective as a mother bear. No one could officially chastise, harshly criticize, or otherwise impact their career without my input. If, there was substance to their criticisms, I would address them with my preceptee and do my best to help her improve that area...just as others did with me over my years of growth. The "tradition" was to ensure and encourage growth and learning FIRST..."We" did not toss someone out or give up on a new one, unless and until there was truly nothing else we could do and I can tell you that was a very rare situation, in deed. If nothing else, a transfer to another unit or specialty more appropriate to their abilities would be arranged. When one got to the point where it was more difficult to keep up physically, we made sure she had the lighter loads and she would help us with our tasks to compensate until she could retire or transfer.

I could go on and on. The "cut-throat" crap I see today is actually painful for me to watch. And, not for nothin', the ridiculous expectations of the hospital administrations only adds and encourages the survival of the fittest attitudes that now prevail. Sink or swim. Fit in from the start gate or go home. Figure it out yourself...it's not my problem. Look it up. Google it. I don't have time to help you...ask so and so... What? You don't know that?...eye roll...

What...you got accused of/suspected of X,y, z? You probably did it.

Op..can you tell I plan to vote for your article? Sincerely, it was well-written and much more succinctly than I could respond...

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Specializes in PICU, Pediatrics, Trauma.
Extra Pickles said:
You said you genuinely wanted opinions so here is mine, I think the title of this article is inflammatory and designed to get people to read something they otherwise might have just skipped over. I think that there are people who treat other people badly no matter what the profession and having yet another person harping about how Nurses Eat Their Own is just fanning a fire that should have been put out by now. I think that new nurses will cheer is and most experienced nurses will scoff at this and the whole thing will be pointless because in the end we all make our own beds, and we all must learn to lie in them. Reap what you sow, like that. There's nothing new about that!

Excuse me...the fire is now so out of control, you don't even realize you are burning up.

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Specializes in PICU, Pediatrics, Trauma.
tnbutterfly said:
Titles are meant to draw in the readers......just like the titles of best-selling books. Who wants to read an article (or buy a book) with a boring title

This is a seasoned nurse (20 yrs exp and has been a member here for 2 years) sharing her personal experience.

Thank you for defending the OP. Right out the gate, CRITICISM, without even one comment on content.

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Specializes in PICU, Pediatrics, Trauma.
Altra said:
Professional nurses take at least introductory-level college courses in psychology, sociology, and human development ... and have presumably functioned in group settings (family/school/work/etc) before becoming nurses. But some appear completely dumbfounded by the realities of typical adult interpersonal relations, including power games.

I have never understood this.

Umm, the truth is, it wasn't always like this.

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