When money is low...

[dipsett08]

ok so i transferred from a junior college in ga to a 4 year university in virginia for nursing (gpa 3.6) . everything went okay as far as transfer goes now i'm in my last 2 years in nursing school.

well i did get fin aid but it isn't enough to cover everything. one of the girls in my dorm strips to pay for school. she said that she makes good money. i told her that i didn't want to strip and it was out of the question . well she told me that i could always become a waitress. didn't have to take off any clothes just flirt with people and serve drinks and they make good money also.

Can i become a waitress at the club without losing my dignity or having other people find out what i do. i really need the money for nursing school because it is expensive. also it is quick easy money. i need some advice before considering doing this.

[Atheos]

On another note, I know quite a few nursing students who work in strip clubs. Will they get their dignity back upon graduation and getting hired at a hospital or have they lost their dignity forever? Maybe someone can answer that for me.:typing

They never lost their dignity. They are still people. Worthy of being alive. Worthy of kindness and respect. Worthy of love. Worthy of everything that those that would judge them are.

[Jules A, MSN]

In other threads, posters are stating that it will be tough to get a loan due to the economy. Are they wrong about that?

No clue but why is getting a loan often the first suggestion long before working while in school? ...gasp, imagine busting your butt a bit and not going into debt!

OP, sorry for the mini-hijack and know that I wish you well with whatever you decide.

[missjennmb]

If you made great money, why in the heck did you go into nursing?

!!! Nursing is not just about "making great money"...

I've worked as a cocktail waitress in a club before with no regrets. I've worked in a "regular" club and a strip club as a cocktail waitress and I don't regret it. I had a blast. BUT, life is not so black and white as 'well i make great money so i'll do this forever'.

No benefits, tough on your feet (I waited tables in platform stillettos), smell of smoke and alcohol, dealing with drunks, hearing stories you wish you hadnt from people too drunk to remember telling them, and to be quite honest, it just isn't fun anymore when you're no longer in the "partying phase" of your life.. but thats just my experience.

I'm now in nursing school and I don't see ANY similarities between the two. That doesn't make it "bad".

If you, OP, walk in there judging the girls on stage though, you might not be very happy there b/c I can't imagine they would appreciate it so much...

[Jo Dirt]

Do whatever your conscience will let you live with.

[diane227, LPN, RN]

My purpose in my suggestion had nothing to do with what was a moral choice. Everyone has to make their own decisions about what they feel comfortable about. I am simply stating that there is a lot of grant money out there that you can get. Grant money IS NOT A LOAN. Grant money is not paid back. You just usually have to maintain a passing grade to keep it. Grant money is very often based on your income. For me, grant money was easier because it allowed me to focus on my studies. My mom was a widow working a minimum wage job. There was no way I could have gone to college without that grant money. I had absolutely no resources of my own. When I started in nursing school, in addition to my grant money I was an usher at a large indoor sports stadium. We had to wear these really short skirts and some very low top tops. I never felt like it was a moral issue. Just a way to pick up a few bucks. I did finally go to work at a hospital in my senior year, by choice, so I could get some extra in hospital experience. Everyone has to make a decision based on what they feel comfortable with.

[Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN]

Oh great - so instead of letting your boyfriend use you for sexual gratification . . . you are willing to settle for the public getting to use you for sexual gratification.

You need some serious counseling in self-value.

https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/he-doesnt-realize-363938.html

steph

[chevyv, BSN, RN]

I do hear strippers make really good money. I also hear that many are students. There's a difference between stripping and prostitution. I guess if your ok with it, go for it! Just remember to keep your eyes on the prize and you'll get through it. Just don't let anyone buy you a drink (some will put that date rape drug in it). Good luck.

[nursemike, ASN, RN]

I'm a middle-aged bachelor (straight) who has never been to a strip club. I've never really believed there was anything wrong with them. I've been invited to go with buddies, before, and it doesn't sound terrible. Sounds like fun, actually. I like internet Media--well, not so much the really hardcore stuff, but attractive women in little or no clothing have an undeniable appeal. I usually say I just can't see myself paying 5 dollars for a beer, but I've paid more than that at a baseball game. So, I dunno. I do see myself as a feminist, of a sort, and I have the terrible suspicion that on some level, I feel like strip clubs might be exploiting women. This disturbs me, because I never wanted to be that much of a feminist, but maybe I am.

So, I wouldn't think less of the OP for waiting tables in a strip club, or even stripping. It does occur to me that if she were entirely comfortable with the idea, would she be asking us? On the other hand, while I've never been a server, as another poster noted, the skill set has some application in nursing. We all "deal with the public," and some of my coworkers have to ward off grabby men (some of my female patients get a little flirty, but not usually crude and--so far--never grabby).

So I really can't say yea or nay. In a smallish town, there might be a bit of a problem with reputation. If a lot of your patients and/or their families were likely to recognize you from the club, that could get uncomfortable. I'm pretty much with Stanley on the dignity issue--that's yours, no matter what you do. Honestly, as a nurse, there will inevitably be times when you have to swallow your pride a little, but you can do it with dignity. I'm sorta with him on the moral relativism, too. There's a major difference between actively harming someone, like blowing up the WTC, and choices that may not be for everyone, but really harm no one. Stripping, sex out of wedlock, smoking pot--they aren't without potential repercussions, but at worst they're crimes against oneself, which is rather different from robbery or murder. I'm hurting myself (smoking) as I write this, but I'm offending only my body and my judgement, not my conscience.

I will say one should usually be careful about anything that promises quick, easy money. There's usually a catch.

[Spidey's mom, ADN, BSN, RN]

I'm a middle-aged bachelor (straight) who has never been to a strip club. I've never really believed there was anything wrong with them. I've been invited to go with buddies, before, and it doesn't sound terrible. Sounds like fun, actually. I like internet Media--well, not so much the really hardcore stuff, but attractive women in little or no clothing have an undeniable appeal. I usually say I just can't see myself paying 5 dollars for a beer, but I've paid more than that at a baseball game. So, I dunno. I do see myself as a feminist, of a sort, and I have the terrible suspicion that on some level, I feel like strip clubs might be exploiting women. This disturbs me, because I never wanted to be that much of a feminist, but maybe I am.

So, I wouldn't think less of the OP for waiting tables in a strip club, or even stripping. It does occur to me that if she were entirely comfortable with the idea, would she be asking us? On the other hand, while I've never been a server, as another poster noted, the skill set has some application in nursing. We all "deal with the public," and some of my coworkers have to ward off grabby men (some of my female patients get a little flirty, but not usually crude and--so far--never grabby).

So I really can't say yea or nay. In a smallish town, there might be a bit of a problem with reputation. If a lot of your patients and/or their families were likely to recognize you from the club, that could get uncomfortable. I'm pretty much with Stanley on the dignity issue--that's yours, no matter what you do. Honestly, as a nurse, there will inevitably be times when you have to swallow your pride a little, but you can do it with dignity. I'm sorta with him on the moral relativism, too. There's a major difference between actively harming someone, like blowing up the WTC, and choices that may not be for everyone, but really harm no one. Stripping, sex out of wedlock, smoking pot--they aren't without potential repercussions, but at worst they're crimes against oneself, which is rather different from robbery or murder. I'm hurting myself (smoking) as I write this, but I'm offending only my body and my judgement, not my conscience.

I will say one should usually be careful about anything that promises quick, easy money. There's usually a catch.

I'm with you on the bolded areas.

I've been to strip clubs with my former husband - I know what men say about the women up there - it isn't respectful. And I'm sorry I went - but I was a different person then and put up with things I never should have, which is where my advice is coming from. Live and learn.

And I'd never want my daughter to strip in order to afford school or my sons to go to a strip club.

I am a feminist in regards to valuing ourselves - but not a male basher as many of the feminist of my era are.

steph

[truern]

Personally, I'd have to wonder how to present that in a resume. And whether or not it would keep me from getting a position in nursing.

[nursemike, ASN, RN]

I'm with you on the bolded areas.

I've been to strip clubs with my former husband - I know what men say about the women up there - it isn't respectful. And I'm sorry I went - but I was a different person then and put up with things I never should have, which is where my advice is coming from. Live and learn.

And I'd never want my daughter to strip in order to afford school or my sons to go to a strip club.

I am a feminist in regards to valuing ourselves - but not a male basher as many of the feminist of my era are.

steph

I have no idea why I don't feel like naked pictures are (necessarily) exploitive. I mean, some kinda are, and they aren't fun to look at. But a lot of not-so-artsy nudes, really kinda soft-core Media, just pictures of naked girls for their own sake, seems almost wholesome, in a way.

Maybe after 10 years in healthcare, it's just nice to look at a butt and not have to wipe it or assess for bedsores.

ETA: I happen to really like ballet. The music is nice, and slim, athletic young women in tights are nice to watch.

The more I think about this, the more I start to feel just a tad hypocritical. Clearly, I need to avoid thinking so much. Fortunately, I'm good at that.

[patrick1rn, MSN, RN, NP]

No, of course it is not a loss of dignity.

All you are doing is serving drinks to people

who want to watch women dance naked or semi naked

to be stared at by all sorts of people.

Your dignity is not compromised as the patrons of this strip club exchange money for a lap dance or a private dance. All you have to worry about is making sure they have something to drink. Women were meant to be objects of desire.

Who am I kidding..

Your dignity will be compromised, Working in a place that promotes the lowest common denominator. Dont fool yourself into thinking otherwise. What ever happened to not compromising your values. You are in college because you have a brain also. Strip clubs: material wealth, physical beauty, females seen as nothing more than objects.

Get a job somewhere else, save your dignity, dont work in a place that encourages women to been only as objects, but not as intelligent human beings. It will be something you will regret.