What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

toomuchbaloney · Jul 5, 2021

15 minutes ago, Tweety said:

They are saying fake news and/or fear mongering. On Bloomberg's facebook page this is what they were saying. The conservative website Town Hall the other day ran an article about Fauci's stunning ignorance or something like that focusing on the virus lab leak theory, so non-vaxxers aren't about giving a flip about what Fauci is saying because he lies and is incompetent.

He was on Face the Nation the other day and met friend was saying he looked more depressed and dejected than he's ever seen him. Imagine we have a solution right in our hands, and people don't have to die and people ignoring that. Yes the death rate is mercifully low but isn't over 600,000 dead enough?

The motivation of these American conservatives is difficult to understand.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jul 6, 2021

15 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The motivation of these American conservatives is difficult to understand.

Very much so. As I've always said, I understand the conservative agenda. I understood during the Obama administration when they fought tooth and nail to oppose everything he did. I understand politics.

I even understand mistrusting and questioning things you hear and see.

But when a President convinces them that the news is fake, and lies and in face of all evidence against what he's saying and yet they believe him, I just can't wrap my mind around that. Honestly some of them sound brainwashed and deranged at their worst.

guest1163268 · Jul 6, 2021

16 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The motivation of these American conservatives is difficult to understand.

I think it's very evident. Among themselves they never address any significant topics because their news sources never mentions anything they might have done bad or would spin it against the Dems or blame the Dems if by chance it was so blatantly bad that they couldn't have missed it.

I think it's clearly evident how they get their news from the demise of Trump's blog. They simply don't read except for headline based news or a tweet limited explanation. They have very limited attention span and lurch from crisis to crisis in their own lives and never assign personal blame to their condition. It's always someone else's fault. THEY ALWAYS NEED TO BLAME OTHERS!

I also think that their reaction to the Insurrection explains everything about them. They have such limited emotional range due to their bad information content, where sensitivity or processing is never shown. Tractor pulls and catfish noodling really doesn't educate you that much.

I actually blame religious education for their blunted affect. They are surrounded by such BLATANT HYPOCRISY in a church community that they have trained their minds to tolerate almost every atrocity against other people. From the pastor to their neighbors and friends, they are able to see them commiting the same blatant sins week in and week out, but go to church on Sundays and all is forgiven and forgotten. No accountability whatsoever except for a future possibility of hell fire. They manipulate their political and justice systems in their own communities to suit their needs which is why they are so anti government, that might seek to make them accountable.

Hypocrisy is the core of their being which is what makes them so dangerous! They can and frequently are able to justify anything, even their Bible teachings are twisted to suit their needs!

Beerman, BSN · Jul 6, 2021

27 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

Among themselves they never address any significant topics because their news sources never mentions anything they might have done bad or would spin it against the Dems or blame the Dems if by chance it was so blatantly bad that they couldn't have missed it.

The number of comments here analyzing the behaviors and psyche of the "Trump Supporter" greatly outnumber any discussion on "significant topics"....rofl!

toomuchbaloney · Jul 6, 2021

8 minutes ago, Beerman said:

The number of comments here analyzing the behaviors and psyche of the "Trump Supporter" greatly outnumber any discussion on "significant topics"....rofl!

You might have missed the news that the "behaviors and psyche" of Trump supporters was revealed in an insurrection and coup attempt on January 6 and that "psyche" has, arguably, become less founded in reality and more dangerous to our republic since that date. How odd that conservatives don't view protecting our Constitution and republic as patriotism 101 and therefore deserving of discussion in a political forum.

Maybe you'd rather whine about critical race theory?

guest1163268 · Jul 6, 2021

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

The number of comments here analyzing the behaviors and psyche of the "Trump Supporter" greatly outnumber any discussion on "significant topics"....rofl!

Made my point perfectly! Just a few interconnected lines of deduction are enough to bemuse you because they either contain too many words or syllables. Unless it's tweet limited or headline descriptive, it's too much. Which is why Trump's blog failed dismally.

Do you believe any information coming out of Russia, China, the Vatican, N Korea, Brazil, Hungary, Poland, Philippines, Turkey etc? Why? Too many times they have lied, obfuscated, deceived or twisted information, so we can't even believe it when they are telling the truth. It's the way normal people react. Why is it that Trumpistas don't react the same way to his news? Over 30,000 documented lies in four years and that's as the president, when his words mattered! That shows the level of contempt he has for his supporters. Imagine in real life just how much more he lies!

Do you really think that normal people believe a word coming out of the GOP?

Recently in Fayetteville, NC and popped into a Wal-Mart that they were taking Temps with a forehead thermometer except it was being used on the wrist. Do you know what she said, her facebook friends said that the forehead thermometer was causing brain damage! What sort of cap and pin do you think she was wearing?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jul 7, 2021

8 hours ago, Beerman said:

The number of comments here analyzing the behaviors and psyche of the "Trump Supporter" greatly outnumber any discussion on "significant topics"....rofl!

Well for some like me it is a "significant topic". It's one I go back to often.

Even in India and around the world they are talking about it.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/the-psychology-of-trump-s-supporters-101610715953592.html

Psychologists and sociologists will probably be studying it and trying to understand it for decades to come.

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jul 7, 2021

Hummmm..... this forensic psychiatrist theories make sense to me

Scientific American 1/11/2021

The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it

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What attracts people to Trump? What is their animus or driving force?

The reasons are multiple and varied, but in my recent public-service book, Profile of a Nation, I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Narcissistic symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader-follower relationship magnetically attractive. The leader, hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self-worth, projects grandiose omnipotence—while the followers, rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury, yearn for a parental figure. When such wounded individuals are given positions of power, they arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a “lock and key” relationship.

“Shared psychosis”—which is also called “folie à millions” [“madness for millions”] when occurring at the national level or “induced delusions”—refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the person’s symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violence—even in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure.

Why does Trump himself seem to gravitate toward violence and destruction?

Destructiveness is a core characteristic of mental pathology, whether directed toward the self or others. First, I wish to clarify that those with mental illness are, as a group, no more dangerous than those without mental illness. When mental pathology is accompanied by criminal-mindedness, however, the combination can make individuals far more dangerous than either alone....

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Jul 7, 2021

Thanks to Merrick Garland for continuing investigation into the 1/6/21 Capital Building riot and updating Capital Police. Democracy needs to be supported for U.S. to continue to exist.

Beerman, BSN · Jul 7, 2021

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Well for some like me it is a "significant topic". It's one I go back to often.

Even in India and around the world they are talking about it.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/opinion/the-psychology-of-trump-s-supporters-101610715953592.html

Psychologists and sociologists will probably be studying it and trying to understand it for decades to come.

Really? 70 something million voted for him. Do you really believe anything more then a minuscule of a percentage of those are like the one in your article?

It's one thing to examine those types. But, as you've seen here, for some, that is all they can talk about. And, they cant seem to seperate the crazies from the rest of the 70 million.

guest1163268 · Jul 7, 2021

1 hour ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Hummmm..... this forensic psychiatrist theories make sense to me

Scientific American 1/11/2021

The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it

Personally, my theory is lack of education and ability to use words to express themselves well. From an early age through ignorance and role models, conflicts were resolved by loudness of voice or violence. They lack the ability to think through an argument or response and also were surrounded by people who weren't receptive to well constructed arguments. I've noticed it repeatedly with lower income people I work with. They make fun of the more educated kids because they are insecure of the vocabulary. I've noticed it in response to me when they challenge my instructions except because of my size and the fact that I don't back down, they quickly fold.

Learning this behavior from an early age makes it hard to break the pattern. It's why they only function in a group. Educated people can stomach being alone because education is a lonely exercise. Processing information is best done alone.

I don't think they actually see Trump as a leader in so much as someone who expresses behaviors they would actually like to own. Impulsive and confrontational! He's like an avatar for them. They can live vicariously through him. And their women are emotionally traumatized and lack self esteem and almost has an abuser Stockholm syndrome mentality, which is why they vote for or support people like Trump.

toomuchbaloney · Jul 7, 2021

2 hours ago, NRSKarenRN said:

Hummmm..... this forensic psychiatrist theories make sense to me

Scientific American 1/11/2021

The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it

That's a really stunning assessment. I thought this was interesting...

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Cult members and victims of abuse are often emotionally bonded to the relationship, unable to see the harm that is being done to them. After a while, the magnitude of the deception conspires with their own psychological protections against pain and disappointment. This causes them to avoid seeing the truth. And the situation with Trump supporters is very similar.