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2 minutes ago, subee said:

At the moment Ashley Babbit was shot, she was just one of DANGEROUSLY radicalized white Trump supporters.  It's ridiculous to compare her  to someone who took an illegal substance.

The comparison and conversation is really about their status as martyr... the opinion that Floyd was elevated as a Democrat or liberal martyr has been advanced here with no offered evidence to support that belief.  There is evidence that Trump tried to portray Babbitt as a martyr. 

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17 hours ago, Tisutina said:

Strange. I didn't say anything about abortion. Is this where you think there are far left democrats? 

Sorry.  This was supposed to have gone to Beerman.

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11 hours ago, Tisutina said:

Okay. I didn't say he died from an OD. I even made a clarification.  If that's what you thought I said then I did not. 

George Floyd may have been a  victim but make no mistake he was a criminal. With a long history of violent crime. Ashley had no criminal history. Both didn't deserve their deaths but both chose to commit a crime that day and both died as a consequence of that. 

One stark difference being that if Ashley was a young black man and the cop was a white man there would have been a whole different outrage then what was. You can deny that all you want but nobody with a brain or eyes could honestly not know that. 

None the less, they died while committing a crime. The police officer who killed George is on prison. Where he should be. 

Neither are martyrs.  My original point. 

Trump attempted to deify Ashley Babbot:   Trump himself amplified the notion that Babbitt was "an innocent, wonderful, incredible woman, a military woman".  A self-identified Republican politician stood an a dais and made a martyr of her.  YOU may not think she is a martyr, but others have been deliberately radicalized to believe that and those people live in Crazyland and are a threat to society.  The radical progressives. IMHO, are politically not astute and pie in the sky types, BUT they never advocated the violence of the radical left.  There's a big ocean between the intent to kill or mail and the cluelessness of  seriously lacking in direction or appreciation of compromise in the name of progress.

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I have never made a secret of my personal viewpoint and have no intention of apologizing for it. I “came of age” in the sixties and became radicalized when my son was born in the late seventies.

When I joined AN in the early aughts, these off topic discussion threads were dominated by self-described conservatives who idolized Rush Limbaugh and followed his example of heaping snark and scorn on anyone deviating from his prescribed stance on the issues.

I was listening to Limbaugh way back when he first went national. At first, he mixed the snark in with actual discussion and actual rationales for his positions. While I thought he was desperately wrong-headed, I appreciated the peek into actual conservative thinking. Then came the dittoheads and the more vitriolic and hateful he was, the higher his ratings - and income - went. Thus was birthed the grand tradition of owning the libs. (I can’t see that anything much has changed.)

 Then Fox came on the scene and hitched its wagon to Karl Rove’s vision of a permanent Republican majority and the GOP, not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth, happily hooked up. Dittoheads have joyously morphed into MAGA and they still think owning the libs is the same thing as debate.

Conservatives who are not magaphiles come on here periodically, mostly to complain about incivility, then disappear. Sadly, I can’t articulate your viewpoint(s) for you. I respond to the text on my screen.

You get the respect you give.

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There’s an absolutely hilarious video on Youtube by Trevor Noah who is recapping the findings of the Jan 6 committee.

TRIGGER WARNING: election deniers will not laugh.

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Since Webster's is an approved source, today at least:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woman

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20 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Since Webster's is an approved source, today at least:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woman

It's a good resource.  

Here's some words that actually threaten our democratic republic. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indoctrinate

 

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I’m curious: A Florida judge just denied access to abortion by a 17 year old, citing her immaturity and her inability to make a truly informed choice.

So … what is in place in terms of support for her when her child is born? Or, is she now expected to make decisions not just for herself but for a totally dependent infant?

Is her family involved?

Is the father of the pregnancy around? 

Are there any credible volunteers to adopt?

Who’s paying the bills?

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9 minutes ago, heron said:

I’m curious: A Florida judge just denied access to abortion by a 17 year old, citing her immaturity and her inability to make a truly informed choice.

So … what is in place in terms of support for her when her child is born? Or, is she now expected to make decisions not just for herself but for a totally dependent infant?

Is her family involved?

Is the father of the pregnancy around? 

Are there any credible volunteers to adopt?

Who’s paying the bills?

"A Florida court effectively blocked a pregnant, parentless 16-year-old from getting an abortion, saying she is not mature enough to make that decision despite her own acknowledgment that "she is not ready for the emotional, physical, or financial responsibility of raising a child."

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News of the case blazed a trail of shock and anger across social media this week, the latest high-profile example of a pregnant person being denied access to abortion after the fall of Roe v. Wade. But it also points to another complicated, longer-standing issue: the legal and logistical challenges facing adolescents seeking abortions, especially those without parental support.

Pregnant teens are vulnerable targets. 

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1 hour ago, heron said:

 

 

 

1 hour ago, heron said:

I’m curious: A Florida judge just denied access to abortion by a 17 year old, citing her immaturity and her inability to make a truly informed choice.

So … what is in place in terms of support for her when her child is born? Or, is she now expected to make decisions not just for herself but for a totally dependent infant?

Is her family involved?

Is the father of the pregnancy around? 

Are there any credible volunteers to adopt?

Who’s paying the bills?

Did you try to find the answers to those questions?  You want others to? Or, are they rhetorical?

I know the answers to some because I read the first story Google took me to.

I'm glad I read the article, as now I can help you better understand what happened.

FL requires that for a child to have a abortion without parental consent, she must prove she is mature enough to make that decision.  Apparently, she failed to do that.  

 

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10 minutes ago, Beerman said:

 

 

Did you try to find the answers to those questions?  You want others to? Or, are they rhetorical?

I know the answers to some because I read the first story Google took me to.

I'm glad I read the article, as now I can help you better understand what happened.

FL requires that for a child to have a abortion without parental consent, she must prove she is mature enough to make that decision.  Apparently, she failed to do that.  

 

Yep. That judge thought that she was too immature to have an early trimester abortion but not too immature to carry a pregnancy to a healthy conclusion and not too immature to go through labor and delivery to birth a viable baby which she is not too immature to decide to keep and raise by herself. 

Now she needs the maturity to find a way to get out of that region so that she can obtain an abortion. Or she needs to be mature enough to navigate this.

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3 hours ago, heron said:

There’s an absolutely hilarious video on Youtube by Trevor Noah who is recapping the findings of the Jan 6 committee.

TRIGGER WARNING: election deniers will not laugh.

I have a feeling it will be hilarious! 

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