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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So you disagree with the FBI and DHS assessments about the threat posed by white supremacists and similar ideology. 

Shrugs

Your opinion is based upon what... your feelings? I mean, you've offered zero facts to this discussion, have ignored the citations, ridiculed the expert analysis... all after explaining that you weren't even certain what white nationalists were as a group.  

It might be impossible for you to be more disingenuous at this point... especially after all of that self righteous indignation you voiced over members dismissing or disparaging citations.  Clearly you bring little more to these threads than fabrications, foolishness, childish retorts, deflection and projection. You have no credibility. 

How's that class assignment coming along? 

Why do you keep asking about my feelings and emotions? It's almost like you are purposely trying to paint me as an unhinged emotional wreck there for I am some how incapable of having a meaning full discussion, in your opinion. It's weird. 

Clearly you bring nothing more to these threads then actively trying to discredit the posters that have a different opinion than you. It's clear you have emotions about Republicans and Trump that you are unable to separate any conservative from your own Republican hating complex. It is also clear that you feel that Trump supporters are white nationalist Nazi terrorist, even if you haven't called them it outright.  And you spend allot of time coming up with cleaver responses to points in which you think are easy debate wins. It's also very repetitive. 

Oh I think there is a threat from terrorist however I do not take their skin color into consideration. It is more likely that a white person in the US would be most likely to commit a terrorist act because there is more white people. When there is more of something it can be expected that statistically they are more likely. It's math and it's the usual deceptive garbage that comes from these so called non bias institutions. Misleading and disingenuous.  

That entire convention transcript or whatever it was you posted repeated the same thing over and over again. However it didn't talk about specific acts of white supremist terrorism just about how they have investigated it over and over and how long they have and on and on.  It was void of statistical numbers and actual criminal investigations and the outcomes of such. Not one case study. More like what they think more white people might be thinking rather than what they are actually doing. 

So no. I don't give home land security and the FBI devout trust. No government entities should be given absolute trust with out question. If you want to talk about our democratic republic and the risk to it, then just look at other countries that allowed their government to rein without question or scrutiny,  see how they turned out! 

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A full blown magaphile...all full of grievance and no enemies to justify the angst. 

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15 hours ago, subee said:

I never said Ashley Babbit was white.  White Trump supporters is relevant because of his affiliation with white nationalist groups.  Did you notice a non white presence among.the Trump supporters on 1/06 except for the law enforcement officers?

Actually, I DID say she was white:(  I definitely think she was a part of the white nationalist groups who rioted on 1/6.  White nationalism is increasingly expressed in violence against the "others."  Their anger and acceptance of violence as a method for social change was evident in DC.

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10 hours ago, Tisutina said:

It said has killed more people SINCE Sept 11, not killed more people THAN Sept 11. Flip of the words. That would mean white supremist terrorist have killed 3000 people. So 150 per year for 20 years.  I think that would have been blasted all over MSM. It is interesting how they talk allot about it but not much about actual instances of it. 

The problem being is that anyone can be labeled as a white supremacist because of some racist social media post and personal thoughts. Or sometimes outright lies. Like Nicolas Sanndman and Kyle Rittenhouse. 

Nah. I would need to see actual examples and proof that these people where actual domestic terrorist. Names, history prior charges and the results of their criminal charges. 

 

 

The grammer in your next to last sentence gives me pause.  Do you believe that the shooter at the Pittsburgh synagogue or the defilers of Jewish cemetaries are not white nationalists who want to restore their warped view of racial purity?  Do you think the Proud Boys who showed up in DC have no background in white nationalism?

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Two Men Convicted in Plot to Kidnap Michigan’s Governor https://nyti.ms/3AgFOBc

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In the courtroom in downtown Grand Rapids, prosecutors told jurors that the men were upset about Covid-19 restrictions and that they plotted a kidnapping raid on the governor’s vacation home, which they scouted out on “reconnaissance missions.” But in a departure from their approach in the previous trial, they took pains to note social media posts that the men made calling for political violence long before F.B.I. informants entered the case, and they repeatedly defended the use of undercover agents.

In the first trial those guys claimed that the FBI inspired them to think about breaking the law.  Finally there is some accountability for that bit of Michigan right wing crazy. 

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10 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Two Men Convicted in Plot to Kidnap Michigan’s Governor https://nyti.ms/3AgFOBc

In the first trial those guys claimed that the FBI inspired them to think about breaking the law.  Finally there is some accountability for that bit of Michigan right wing crazy. 

“SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!” says every abuser, ever.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

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2 hours ago, subee said:

The grammer in your next to last sentence gives me pause.  Do you believe that the shooter at the Pittsburgh synagogue or the defilers of Jewish cemetaries are not white nationalists who want to restore their warped view of racial purity?  Do you think the Proud Boys who showed up in DC have no background in white nationalism?

I see the leader of the Proud Boys is a Afro-Cuban. I see many members of the Poud Boys are not white. 

I see allot of racial hatred among humans. However having hate for other races or having racist thoughts does not make one a Nazi. 

Ignorant racist people exist, always will. They usually live their lives lonely,isolated then they die. Some go on to commit crimes and we prosecute them. I will never believe white people are racist because they are white. To quote the great Omar..." "some people did something" and now people who didn't do anything  or were not even alive now should bear the burden of evil committed by people that have the same skin color? Well that sounds Nazi if I say so myself! 

There have been many other hate crimes that go severely unreported and/or misrepresented by the new. The racist white hater that drove through a crowd at at Christmas parade? The speculated by the MSM (of course) "white supremacist" that killed some Muslim people that turned out to be a Muslim? Woops. 

This is why I do not trust MSM the DOJ FBI. And all the other totally official ABC's. A free country must question our government entities and hold them to account or suffer grave consequences.  Isn't our constitution kinda written around that? 

If you can read and understand what I'm saying, I do not care about what pause you get from my grammar. 

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1 hour ago, heron said:

“SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!” says every abuser, ever.

Whatever happened to personal responsibility?

Probably went out the window with no bail policy and refusal to prosecute crimes in Democrat cities. No personal responsibility there! 

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9 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

A full blown magaphile...all full of grievance and no enemies to justify the angst. 

Magaphile.  In the totally super duper not meant as an insult right? 

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34 minutes ago, Tisutina said:

Magaphile.  In the totally super duper not meant as an insult right? 

I already said how I mean it and why I use it rather than less neutral terms.

What word do you want me to use to denote those who subscribe to the MAGA political goals? 

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46 minutes ago, Tisutina said:

Magaphile.  In the totally super duper not meant as an insult right? 

Your posts are clearly representative of MAGA. 

Maybe your class assignment was to see how members of a nursing discussion board would react to such an exaggerated caricature of a right wing pov? 

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https://apnews.com/article/economy-government-and-politics-c721634482519d591cb1a0522a464bf7

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration is forecasting that this year’s budget deficit will be nearly $400 billion lower than it estimated back in March, due in part to stronger than expected revenues, reduced spending, and an economy that has recovered all of the jobs lost during the multi-year pandemic.

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And while the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office in July said, that fast economic growth and higher tax revenues have caused the federal debt this year to be lower than forecast, the organization warns in its 30-year outlook that debt will soon spiral upward to new highs that could ultimately imperil the U.S. economy.

Somewhat good news. 

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