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2 minutes ago, TooWeirdForFiction said:

Again, regardless of the minor grammatical error the notion that “abortion is not health care” reflects either ignorance or a desire to be inflammatory. Do you really believe that abortion doesn’t require the expertise of healthy professionals?

Seems to me you are the one being the jerk on here not me.   No abortion doesn't require the expertise of healthy professionals.

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2 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

The first amendment is regulated: libel, slander, and causing unnecessary panic such as yelling fire when there is none. 

Should it be regulated like guns because it is a public health issue?  Words hurt people.  People commit suicide and homicide because of words.  Words can be triggering and cause depression and anxiety in people.  That's a public health issue.

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Hmm, @MaybeeRN is a new account, posting only on this thread. Makes me think you are not looking for a serious discussion, but just want to repost some talking points. Have fun with that.  

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1 hour ago, nursej22 said:
1 hour ago, MaybeeRN said:

This affects men and women equally.  Besides it will be a states rights issue like it always should have been.

And what do you base this on? The constitution? Prior court decisions? Feelings? 

From the article @NRSKarenRN referenced here.

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“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”

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1 minute ago, nursej22 said:

Hmm, @MaybeeRN is a new account, posting only on this thread. Makes me think you are not looking for a serious discussion, but just want to repost some talking points. Have fun with that.  

New people join allnurses every day.  a lot of people like me read articles without ever joining.

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3 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Almost every Democrat is pro-abortion.  Abortion is not health.  this affects men just as much as women.

Its a states right issue.  Blue states will allow it and red/purple states may or may not allow it.  It's not complicated.

Oh yes, I understand it affects men, especially lower income men.

You missed my point about states but I see no need for me to clarify myself.  Although I do welcome healthy and mature discussion.

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2 hours ago, chare said:

From the article @NRSKarenRN referenced here.

 

Yes it seems it's going to be regulated to the states.  I don't agree that this is what should be done because it makes no sense that someone can get an abortion in one state and not another.  

Plus this will affect the poor.  A poor woman in Mississippi most likely will have to travel quite far to get a legal abortion should she choose, something she wouldn't be able to afford.   (Yeah, I know the argument, "if you can't afford a baby, don't get pregnant, etc. but people find themselves in that situation").

 

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Yes it seems it's going to be regulated to the states.  I don't agree that this is what should be done because it makes no sense that someone can get an abortion in one state and not another.  

Plus this will affect the poor.  A poor woman in Mississippi most likely will have to travel quite far to get a legal abortion should she choose, something she wouldn't be able to afford.   (Yeah, I know the argument, "if you can't afford a baby, don't get pregnant, etc. but people find themselves in that situation").

 

There is really is little excuse for an unwanted pregnancy these days with the ready availability of birth control for both sexes.  Sure your going to have outliers like rape, and incest.  Everything affects the poor in this country.  Bailing out student loans will hurt the poor the most.  Inflation hurts the poor the most.  Rising interest rates will hurt the poor the most.  

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1 minute ago, MaybeeRN said:

There is really is little excuse for an unwanted pregnancy these days with the ready availability of birth control for both sexes.  Sure your going to have outliers like rape, and incest.  Everything affects the poor in this country.  Bailing out student loans will hurt the poor the most.  Inflation hurts the poor the most.  Rising interest rates will hurt the poor the most.  

I'm not sure what you mean about bailing out student loans hurting the poor the most.  But don't disagree with much of the other.   Being poor sucks and certainly we shouldn't make their life harder if we don't have to.  

I'm not sure of the dynamics behind unwanted pregnancies and why they occur but certainly there are ways to prevent pregnancy.  One long time person that used to post here got pregnant while on the pill.  So there is that.  Stuff happens.

 

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1 minute ago, Tweety said:

I'm not sure what you mean about bailing out student loans hurting the poor the most.  But don't disagree with much of the other.   Being poor sucks and certainly we shouldn't make their life harder if we don't have to.  

I'm not sure of the dynamics behind unwanted pregnancies and why they occur but certainly there are ways to prevent pregnancy.  One long time person that used to post here got pregnant while on the pill.  So there is that.  Stuff happens.

 

Sure stuff happens but most of those are outliers.  there is no excuse for the amount of abortions that are performed in this country every year.  And regardless of what people think It is more the women's responsibility than the man's to ensure that does not happen.

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3 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

Sure stuff happens but most of those are outliers.  there is no excuse for the amount of abortions that are performed in this country every year.  And regardless of what people think It is more the women's responsibility than the man's to ensure that does not happen.

I was curious but the good news is abortions have been on the decline in recent years, but it seems a lot.

While I would agree it's a woman's job to protect herself from unwanted pregnancy, irresponsible male ejaculation is the man's fault as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/14/upshot/who-gets-abortions-in-america.html

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7 hours ago, Tweety said:

But yes, in fact I think that is the majority American opinion is that a lot of us wouldn't choose abortion, don't necessary agree with abortion, but feel it's not our decision to make for another person who should have that right.

Tweety expressed my viewpoint... tough decision for a woman to make with lasting implications.  Don't see the states implementing new abortion laws offering any support to women now expected to birth a child due to rape, incest,  failed pregnancy; puts undue emotional and financial onus on the women.

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