What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

[guest1163268]

Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

[chare]

50 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

OK. 

Do you agree that the information of either ad fontes or Media bias/fact check visually organize into a bell curve when comparED on a graph? Certainly their assessments of the media outlets aren't terribly divergent. ...  

In previous discussions about media bias and accuracy I had referenced that bell shape, my intention was not to be cryptic in this instance. 

I didn't think you were being cryptic. And, yes, if you look at the Ad Fontes media bias chart it does look somewhat like a bell.  However, when you referred to it as an "accuracy bell curve" I found that use unusual, and wasn't sure what exactly you were trying to say.

 

5 minutes ago, chare said:

I didn't think you were being cryptic. And, yes, if you look at the Ad Fontes media bias chart it does look somewhat like a bell.  However, when you referred to it as an "accuracy bell curve" I found that use unusual, and wasn't sure what exactly you were trying to say.

 

Now you know...

In other news;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/16/un-international-court-of-justice-orders-russia-to-halt-invasion-of-ukraine

https://www.ADN.com/politics/2022/03/16/a-russian-lawmaker-wants-alaska-back-good-luck-with-that/

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A Russian lawmaker wants Alaska back. ‘Good luck with that!’

By Iris Samuels

Updated: 6 hours agoPublished: 1 day ago

An undated photo of the The United States check for $7,200,000 (or about $125 million in 2017 dollars ) to buy Alaska from Russia in 1867. (National Archives)

A Russian parliament member has called for the return of Alaska to Russia, prompting a quick dismissal from Alaska politicians and others.

The statement came as Russian President Vladimir Putin has attempted to rewrite history in an effort to explain away his war in Ukraine. But Russia has not seriously considered reclaiming Alaska since the territory was sold to the U.S. for $7.2 million in 1867, and Putin himself indicated in 2014 that he had no interest in retaking Alaska.

Still, on a Sunday news program in Russia, parliament member Oleg Matveychev included Alaska in a list of demands in response to the war in Ukraine and the economic harm caused to the country by U.S. sanctions.

“Let’s think about reparations. The harm these sanctions caused us cost money. Return of possessions, including possessions of the Russian Empire, Soviet Union and even parts of Russia that are now occupied by the United States,” Matveychev said in the interview.

“What about the return of Alaska and Fort Ross?” the host asked, a reference to a former Russian outpost on the California coast north of San Francisco.

Putin loves to fabricate justification for military aggression. 

[Beerman, BSN]

Getting Alaska back might be easier than some (mostly conservatives and independents) would think.

"A majority of Republicans and independents would stay and fight were Russia to invade the United States while a majority of Democrats say they would flee, according to a new Quinnipiac poll."

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/majority-of-democrats-polled-say-they-would-flee-not-stay-and-fight-if-russia-invaded-us/

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Getting Alaska back might be easier than some (mostly conservatives and independents) would think.

"A majority of Republicans and independents would stay and fight were Russia to invade the United States while a majority of Democrats say they would flee, according to a new Quinnipiac poll."

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/majority-of-democrats-polled-say-they-would-flee-not-stay-and-fight-if-russia-invaded-us/

Maybe.  How many liberals do you think live in Alaska? There's not even 700k people in the state, and about half of them would be in the age group that might want to volunteer to fight and the vast majority of those people have multiple firearms. There are 6 in my small cabin alone.  Do you think public sentiment has changed much in the 10 days since the poll was taken? I would bet it has. 

How much more difficult would it be to mount a ground attack against the North American continent than against a contiguous neighbor? That logistical stumbling block makes any intention or attempt to physically invade us very vulnerable to the most powerful and best funded military on the planet. Even a land based attack on Alaska would be a formidable undertaking with the military defensive resources in state. I don't hear talk about land troops in Alaska though.  People up here are wondering if Putin will lose his mind and nuke Alaska...just because he's not demonstrating rational behavior at this time and things are going to keep getting more difficult for him.  

 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

I'm admit I'm generalizing here but Republicans label themselves "patriots" and use the American flag more, so it's not surprising to me that many would answer with the bravado of defending America more than Democrats.

Boebert tweeted the other day "My pronoun is patriot" (she was mocked because patriot is a noun but nonetheless that's not the point).  Fox News host Jeanine Pirro on her show called Biden a "wuss".   

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First of all, it makes a difference if you are a Republican. Republicans are more than twice as likely as Democrats or independents to call themselves very patriotic, and the gap is widening. Just under a third of Democrats and independents say they are “not very” or “not at all” patriotic.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/03/americans-are-patriotic-differ-what-means

I think a lot of democrats aren't happy with the status quo.  While I love America and am proud to be an American, there is much I'm unhappy with and want to see changed.  So I can't even say I'm "very patriotic" myself.  

We are a nation of obese, unhealthy, and older folks.  While given our size there are probably enough able bodied people for front line defenses I also think it would a bit pathetic.  Covid exposed just how unhealthy we are.   Florida has a lot of elderly and while they fly the flag and might answer they would defend us, it's doubtful they would or could.

Finally, being a war refugee is not something to ashamed of.  If you're not of fighting condition, or have children to take care of, or are elderly and you're city is being bombed, fleeing is your only option.

Being physically fit, having no children or grandchildren to protect, in a profession that would be helpful, I would like to think I would stay and help the wounded and wouldn't flee.  But I might flee to North Carolina to make sure my elderly parents that live alone were safe, but I have a brother there that could do that as well perhaps (that's another story).  But I know me, if my skills as a nurse were needed I would do that, but I can't say I would take up arms and go to the front lines.  

 

26 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I'm admit I'm generalizing here but Republicans label themselves "patriots" and use the American flag more, so it's not surprising to me that many would answer with the bravado of defending America more than Democrats.

Boebert tweeted the other day "My pronoun is patriot" (she was mocked because patriot is a noun but nonetheless that's not the point).  Fox News host Jeanine Pirro on her show called Biden a "wuss".   

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/07/03/americans-are-patriotic-differ-what-means

I think a lot of democrats aren't happy with the status quo.  While I love America and am proud to be an American, there is much I'm unhappy with and want to see changed.  So I can't even say I'm "very patriotic" myself.  

We are a nation of obese, unhealthy, and older folks.  While given our size there are probably enough able bodied people for front line defenses I also think it would a bit pathetic.  Covid exposed just how unhealthy we are.   Florida has a lot of elderly and while they fly the flag and might answer they would defend us, it's doubtful they would or could.

Finally, being a war refugee is not something to ashamed of.  If you're not of fighting condition, or have children to take care of, or are elderly and you're city is being bombed, fleeing is your only option.

Being physically fit, having no children or grandchildren to protect, in a profession that would be helpful, I would like to think I would stay and help the wounded and wouldn't flee.  But I might flee to North Carolina to make sure my elderly parents that live alone were safe, but I have a brother there that could do that as well perhaps (that's another story).  But I know me, if my skills as a nurse were needed I would do that, but I can't say I would take up arms and go to the front lines.  

 

Yeah. We can't know. 

What we do know is that a really surprising number of those republicans who call themselves patriots and told the pollsters that they would fight invaders wouldn't do a dang thing to stop the destruction of their republic as long as someone like Trump was guiding and encouraging them.  The number of conservative Alaskans who would dismiss the 2020 election results to elevate Trump again is substantial.  Maybe an invader doesn't really need to fear an armed populace if the armed people are easily manipulated and willing to accept lies as truth. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

Companies continuing business as usual in Russia:  

Opinion | Koch, Halliburton, Subway, others fund Putin’s Ukraine war. Boycott them. - The Washington Post

 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

Here's the list the article mentions.

Seriously, it's a bit too long right now to process.  I think we should continue to pressure companies to withdraw from Russia as Ukraine has requested but seriously to ask the average consumer to look at that list and boycott is a bit much, especially given that I haven't heard of some of those companies.

At the end of the day I do support putting the pressure on Russia by not doing business with them.  But it has to be hard on a company like Auchin with over 3 billion in revenue to just kiss that goodbye.    

As we are seeing with McDonalds, leaving also opens the doors for Russian companies to take their place.  

https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-400-companies-have-withdrawn-russia-some-remain

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-mcdonalds-golden-arches-signs-sideways-logo-trademark-sanctions-1688968

7 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Here's the list the article mentions.

Seriously, it's a bit too long right now to process.  I think we should continue to pressure companies to withdraw from Russia as Ukraine has requested but seriously to ask the average consumer to look at that list and boycott is a bit much.

https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-400-companies-have-withdrawn-russia-some-remain

The list of companies who are "digging in" rather than leaving or "scaling back" and didn't seem to be filled with companies offering services or products to everyday consumers.  Am I looking at that wrong?

More than two dozen Senate Republicans demand Biden do more for Ukraine after voting against $13.6 billion for Ukraine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

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In a statement Thursday, Hawley said, “Aid for Ukraine should not be held hostage to the Democrats’ pet projects and I did not support the massive $1.5 trillion omnibus spending bill stuffed with billions in earmarks.”

Maybe Hawley doesn't remember that he was cool with Trump literally holding Ukrainian military aid hostage for personal political favors just a few years ago and he also has been outspoken about the necessity of keeping Ukraine out of NATO.  Maybe he learned how to gas light conservatives at Harvard.  

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

34 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The list of companies who are "digging in" rather than leaving or "scaling back" and didn't seem to be filled with companies offering services or products to everyday consumers.  Am I looking at that wrong?

No you're right.  Except for maybe Subway which has businesses here.