What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

2 hours ago, subee said:

My logic-free mind tells me that NATO should arm up and give Ukraine a freebie.  Who is Putin to dictate who gets to be a member?  But my logical mind thinks that the Russians are lousy soldiers, their heart is not in this and that the educated citizens of Russia are smart enough to see through Putin's disinformation campaign ,  It's not as if they haven't been lied to before.  An entire world can't displace Putin?  Russia is only 1.7 times the size of the USA and much of it is inhabitable.  I hate to see the Russian population suffer because of our sanctions but maybe it will germinate a revolution.  This video was very hard to watch.

I do think that it's entirely possible that the Russian army doesn't have either the desire or the support to sustain a long invasion or a hostile occupation.  Things will get dicey for them as the Russian economy struggles to pay them or provide supplies. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

It's interesting to see how the media presents inflation.

While reporting how the conflict is Ukraine is affecting current rates of inflation and energy Fox News is criticizing them reporting this.  They criticize the liberal media for saying that Americans were willing to take a hit at the pumps for Ukraine, and I have read surveys that say this is true.  

Fox of course would rather focus on Biden's massive spending and anti-oil agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-media-blame-putin-biden-gas-price-inflation

The global competition for oil since the Ukraine battle I think will affect inflation, why not report on it.  But it shouldn't be the focus that is the cause of inflation.

"Liberal media" New York Times has been critical of Biden.

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Americans have resumed spending freely, and along the way, they have been creating shortages akin to those in a shopping mall on Black Friday.

All that consumption has resulted from vast amounts of government rescue aid (including three rounds of stimulus checks) and substantial underspending by consumers during the lockdown phase of the Covid crisis. There has also been an unforeseen shift in what consumers are buying: With travel still sluggish and many people still wary of returning to entertainment venues, a hunk of purchasing has moved to goods — particularly “durables” like cars, electronics and building materials for housing — for which production and distribution capacity is limited.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/opinion/inflation-supply-chain.html

 The liberal media doesn't seem to have the agenda to over and over talk about how Biden contributed to inflation. 

I do think some "liberal media" tends to look at the bigger picture and not just how Biden might have contributed to inflation.  Because it's a bit more complicated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-invasion-economic-impact-united-states/

What's interesting is that while Fox doesn't call it the "Putin rise" they are reporting it was well as don't even mention Biden.

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The national average has continued to rise since the beginning of the year due to strained supply and increased demand, according to Edmonds. However, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine two weeks ago caused oil prices to surge higher, pushing prices at the pump to levels not seen in over a decade. 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-fall-Tuesday-oil-barrel

[Beerman, BSN]

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

The liberal media doesn't seem to have the agenda to over and over talk about how Biden contributed to inflation. 

They have the opposite agenda.  To use the WH coined phrase,  the "Putin price hike" and to say it is a "great way to message the issue " clearly illustrates this. 

The other day I mentioned how people don't care to hear the blame as much as what happens going forward.   I thought when Biden made his remarks, it was another stupid blunder by the WH.  I didn't consider the fact that the media was going to jump aboard that train.  It seems to be working out OK for Biden.

 

 

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

It's interesting to see how the media presents inflation.

While reporting how the conflict is Ukraine is affecting current rates of inflation and energy Fox News is criticizing them reporting this.  They criticize the liberal media for saying that Americans were willing to take a hit at the pumps for Ukraine, and I have read surveys that say this is true.  

Fox of course would rather focus on Biden's massive spending and anti-oil agenda.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-media-blame-putin-biden-gas-price-inflation

The global competition for oil since the Ukraine battle I think will affect inflation, why not report on it.  But it shouldn't be the focus that is the cause of inflation.

"Liberal media" New York Times has been critical of Biden.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/opinion/inflation-supply-chain.html

 The liberal media doesn't seem to have the agenda to over and over talk about how Biden contributed to inflation. 

I do think some "liberal media" tends to look at the bigger picture and not just how Biden might have contributed to inflation.  Because it's a bit more complicated.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-invasion-economic-impact-united-states/

What's interesting is that while Fox doesn't call it the "Putin rise" they are reporting it was well as don't even mention Biden.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-fall-Tuesday-oil-barrel

It appears that you conduct a comparison of coverage occasionally and you use a variety of media that occupy really different positions on the accuracy bell curve.  

You are providing an informal look at how Fox News is a different entity from Fox Business when it comes to how they frame current events.  Thanks for that. 

[Kitiger, RN]

14 hours ago, subee said:

My logic-free mind tells me that NATO should arm up and give Ukraine a freebie.  Who is Putin to dictate who gets to be a member?  But my logical mind thinks that the Russians are lousy soldiers, their heart is not in this and that the educated citizens of Russia are smart enough to see through Putin's disinformation campaign ,  It's not as if they haven't been lied to before.  An entire world can't displace Putin?  Russia is only 1.7 times the size of the USA and much of it is inhabitable.  I hate to see the Russian population suffer because of our sanctions but maybe it will germinate a revolution.  This video was very hard to watch.

The people of Russia may well be against the war, but they have very little say. When they do try to speak up, they get slapped in prison. I somehow doubt that their prisons let them relax and watch TV.

[chare]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It appears that you conduct a comparison of coverage occasionally and you use a variety of media that occupy really different positions on the accuracy bell curve.  

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Accuracy bell curve?  How exactly is this accuracy determined?  And by whom?

What Lindsey Graham’s call to ‘take out’ Putin says about GOP ‘strength’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/16/lindsey-graham-take-out-putin-gop/

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On Wednesday, after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s dramatic appeal to Congress complicated an extraordinarily challenging situation for the United States, Graham was asked whether he still believed that. He answered in the affirmative.
“I hope he’ll be taken out, one way or the other,” Graham responded. “If John McCain were here, he’d be saying the same thing, I think.”
With this bit of posturing, Graham has offered a helpful illustration of two important things about the current conflict. First, as hard as this might be for some Republicans to fathom, there are times when it’s more important to ask “Is this a smart thing to say?” than it is to ask “Will saying this make me look tougher than my political opponents?”

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Second, while there are many ways the war in Ukraine could end, it’s unlikely to be a joyous victory for the forces of liberty. The best possible settlement for the Ukrainian people is almost certainly one that will allow Putin, in some fashion, to save face. In fact, there may be no other way for the conflict to end. So what Putin cares about, feels and fears is of great concern to the whole world.
Republicans know that perfectly well. But if and when the invasion does end, Graham and his Republican colleagues will rush to the cameras to say everything would have gone much better had President Biden not been so “weak.”

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There’s no question that on barstools around the country, people are saying “Somebody’s gotta take Putin out.” But the difference between your uncle saying it and a prominent U.S. senator saying it is that in the eyes of the world — especially in the eyes of Putin himself — that represents, if not the position of the U.S. government, an indication of what might one day be the position of the U.S. government.
From everything we know, Putin believes that the West, and the United States in particular, are out to get him personally and debilitate Russia’s standing in the world. That’s part of what drives him to expand Russia’s borders and what enrages him about Ukraine’s turn to the West, with the suggestion that they might someday join the European Union or NATO. This notion is also central to the story he’s telling to justify the invasion, the story about the West victimizing Russia.
The point is not that we need to indulge his beliefs. It’s that at certain moments we should choose not to reinforce those beliefs, or least not reinforce that story, if that might make Putin more aggressive, reckless and cruel. The suggestion that the United States might support his assassination — covertly, tacitly or openly — could make him more convinced that nothing short of the complete subjugation of Ukraine will do. Or it could feed his tale of Russian martyrdom.

This was a thoughtful opinion, IMV. The speech of our politicians, intended to further their personal political objectives can have much larger consequences because of their leadership positions...they aren't musicians talking trash, they are the representatives of this democracy. 

3 minutes ago, chare said:

Accuracy bell curve?  How exactly is this accuracy determined?  And by whom?

Ad Fontes Media comparison...they compare media on bias and reliability (what I often refer to as accuracy) and the results organize into a bell curve when viewed in a graphed format. We've had discussions about this evaluation tool in these threads previously, I'm surprised that you're not familiar with them. 

 

For some reason, I started my morning reading in the opinions section...this is a conservative opinion that more people should consider. 

Donald Trump is wasting our time

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/15/marc-racicot-trump-ukraine-nato/

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Rarely stopping to inventory the essential qualities in human character, we all know them when we see them: decency, honesty, humility, honor and faithfulness.
Character is the lens through which, especially when pressure mounts and there is little margin for error, we all choose a path to be followed.

 

[chare]

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Ad Fontes Media comparison...they compare media on bias and reliability (what I often refer to as accuracy) and the results organize into a bell curve when viewed in a graphed format. We've had discussions about this evaluation tool in these threads previously, I'm surprised that you're not familiar with them. 

 

Don't be.  I'm familiar with the Ad Fontes media bias chart you referenced here.  However, I find it much less useful than Media Bias Fact Check. 

I asked as I found your reference to the "accuracy bell curve" unusual.

41 minutes ago, chare said:

Don't be.  I'm familiar with the Ad Fontes media bias chart you referenced here.  However, I find it much less useful than Media Bias Fact Check. 

I asked as I found your reference to the "accuracy bell curve" unusual.

OK. 

Do you agree that the information of either ad fontes or Media bias/fact check visually organize into a bell curve when compared on a graph? Certainly their assessments of the media outlets aren't terribly divergent.  Fox News is noticeably biased and not reliably accurate in their reporting according to both.  Fox Business is less biased and noticeably more accurate and reliable in reporting according to both.  

In previous discussions about media bias and accuracy I had referenced that bell shape, my intention was not to be cryptic in this instance. 

[subee, MSN, CRNA]

2 hours ago, Kitiger said:

The people of Russia may well be against the war, but they have very little say. When they do try to speak up, they get slapped in prison. I somehow doubt that their prisons let them relax and watch TV.

Well, no kidding Kitiger.  But I have worked with Russian anesthesiologists and nurses who immigrated here (all Jewish, it's worst for them in Russia) and these are people who are educated in Russia.  There are many well-educated people there who can see through Putin's disinformation campaigns and know that he is a fool so no, I don't believe that the Russians are more naive than us.  As I said, they are accustomed to being lied to.  In modern times, it's more difficult to rule by fear because people are ingenious in getting the information they want.  As quickly as the police in Tehran confiscate a satellite dish, it's replaced immediately.  The government is losing the information battle. If the oligarchs wanted Putin out, they actually have the money and the power to make things happen from their penthouses around the world.  We could put information out about American corporations  that are conducting business as usual in Russia.  I  think Americans  would enjoy boycotting their products here.  There are things that can be done without putting Russian dissidents in prison.  Putin is going full-fledged Hitler now with his "racial purity" rant.  I think Xi Jinping is more dangerous because he's not insane.  It is an interesting time to watch history.