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11 minutes ago, Tweety said:

It is a word being thrown around and an understood professional definition would be important for people to understand.

I'm not really seeing where health care professionals are saying it's endemic but I'm sure you can find them out there.  But mostly they are saying that it will become endemic.   I think governments are proceeding with this idea that we didn't defeat covid. 

And yes covid denial and minimizing was a problem.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/12/doctors-warn-covid-will-become-endemic-and-people-need-to-learn-to-live-with-it.html

Members in threads dealing with covid like to throw that term around as if this pandemic is over and we just need to get on with our lives.  Of course they can never say why they use that term, endemic, or suggest that we are no longer in a pandemic phase. It's all part of the rampant misinformation campaign. 

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Specializes in Med-Surg.
1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Members in threads dealing with covid like to throw that term around as if this pandemic is over and we need to just need to get on with our lives.  Of course they can never say why they use that term, endemic, or suggest that we are no longer in a pandemic phase. It's all part of the rampant misinformation campaign. 

Gotcha.  I've read some of those covid threads here and shake my head and ask "are they really nurses"???  Nurses and doctors are the ones making headlines about the severity of covid.

https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/coronavirus/exclusive-nurses-reveal-pain-of-never-ending-covid-19-pandemic-11-01-2022/

On the other hand, taking things realistically that it is going to become part of our lives, we do need to discuss how we are going to proceed.

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Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
2 hours ago, Tweety said:

 

The one thing I can take away from this is that the number of deaths is lower now than during the delta wave even though number of infections is probably three to five times higher now.  

Is 1,700 deaths a day in a country of nearly 330 million people acceptable?

 

Acceptable?  I don't know.  Were some preventable - sure.  My problem is can our hospitals survive doing what it takes to have only 1,700 people dying a day?  They are just the tip of the iceberg of chaos underneath.  Can Florida survive hospitals survive this forever?  

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Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
1 hour ago, Tweety said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/20/mcconnell-waves-off-voting-concerns-since-black-people-turn-out-heavily-americans/

There's a deeper dive into what he is saying.

Side note:  Yes, it's interesting to listen to his speech pattern and have it not be an issue with people but it is if it's Biden.  But I wouldn't call him "mumbling and incompetent".  He's a seasoned professional at the top of his game and he knows how to play it.  Sometimes....he misspoke this time.

To me I have to wonder that republican states like Georgia and Florida that passed voting changes knew the stats that African Americans were voting more (especially when Obama and Mrs. Harris were running) that they took notice and decided to make it harder.  Just sayin'

 

I was not clearly being sarcastic.  Just throwing the epithets back to Mitch what the right wingers say about Biden.  People too uninformed to know about his stutter which makes him sound worst than he actually is.  He is a very competent ahole.

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3 hours ago, subee said:

Acceptable?  I don't know.  Were some preventable - sure.  My problem is can our hospitals survive doing what it takes to have only 1,700 people dying a day?  They are just the tip of the iceberg of chaos underneath.  Can Florida survive hospitals survive this forever?  

Totally agree that the death toll is just part of the picture.  This is what frustrated me in the past with people saying "we're getting excited over a virus with a low death rate".  

Florida's medical system could not survive something like Delta variant for much longer than it was out there, but the odd thing is that despite having 38,000 something cases today (which is a downward trend from upward of 70,000 a day) we seem to be doing okay and did okay when there were 70,000 cases.  Thankfully.  

What is breaking us is not the covid patients, but the nurses having to stay home that have caught covid.  We lost 14 nurses in one day a couple of weeks ago and we don't have even one nurse to spare.   It's particularly hit places, like some nursing homes that are short staffed on a good day.  I have a friend that is a DON in a SNF that says they have 120 residents but only the staff for 70 of them with so many out with covid.   So it's a mixed answer from me on that.  

Still 25% of ICU beds here are covid.

This is one reason thing DeSantis and even nursing organizations are warning us about mandates, firing people on top of this mess would spell disaster.

DeSantis though clearly has taken a wrong turn regarding promoting the vaccine.  Boosters are shown to be needed for Omicron and he says nothing.  He's taken not only an anti-mandate stance, he's taken an anti-coercion stance.  He suspended an official for encouraging staff to get vaccinated, something our administrators do almost daily.  He declines to answer whether he himself has gotten the booster after touting it when he got the first doses last year.  

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-suspends-health-official-who-urged-staff-get-vaccinated-2022-01-19/ 

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7 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Totally agree that the death toll is just part of the picture.  This is what frustrated me in the past with people saying "we're getting excited over a virus with a low death rate".  

Florida's medical system could not survive something like Delta variant for much longer than it was out there, but the odd thing is that despite having 38,000 something cases today (which is a downward trend from upward of 70,000 a day) we seem to be doing okay and did okay when there were 70,000 cases.  Thankfully.  

What is breaking us is not the covid patients, but the nurses having to stay home that have caught covid.  We lost 14 nurses in one day a couple of weeks ago and we don't have even one nurse to spare.   It's particularly hit places, like some nursing homes that are short staffed on a good day.  I have a friend that is a DON in a SNF that says they have 120 residents but only the staff for 70 of them with so many out with covid.   So it's a mixed answer from me on that.  

Still 25% of ICU beds here are covid.

This is one reason thing DeSantis and even nursing organizations are warning us about mandates, firing people on top of this mess would spell disaster.

DeSantis though clearly has taken a wrong turn regarding promoting the vaccine.  Boosters are shown to be needed for Omicron and he says nothing.  He's taken not only an anti-mandate stance, he's taken an anti-coercion stance.  He suspended an official for encouraging staff to get vaccinated, something our administrators do almost daily.  He declines to answer whether he himself has gotten the booster after touting it when he got the first doses last year.  

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-suspends-health-official-who-urged-staff-get-vaccinated-2022-01-19/ 

Clearly DeSantis' dishonest and authoritarian approach to covid appeals to many people who might otherwise vote for Trump.  That is what DeSantis is counting on. 

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The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists announced on Jan. 20 that the hands of the Doomsday Clock remain at 100 seconds to midnight—the closest it has ever been to apocalypse.

The Bulletin meets every year to determine how much metaphorical time we have to avert catastrophe for humankind. Over the past 75 years, the hands of the clock have moved both backward and forward according to whether steps were taken to address potentially civilization-ending threats, such as climate change and nuclear war.

In 2020, the Bulletin set the hands of the clock at 100 seconds to midnight, moving them forward from two minutes. For the second year in a row, the organization determined that not enough progress has been made to move the hands back.

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Closest Ever to Apocalypse: Doomsday Clock Remains at 100 Seconds to Midnight

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 "Bill Maher, host of HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher,” repeatedly slammed the political left during his show on Friday for its handling of the pandemic while Florida has managed to have better outcomes than many other states while also having significantly fewer restrictions."

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"Weiss, a former New York Times writer, also slammed the pandemic restrictions, saying that she was “done with COVID.”

“We were told you get the vaccine, you get the vaccine and you get back to normal. And we haven’t gotten back to normal. And it’s ridiculous at this point,” Weiss said. “I know that so many of my liberal and progressive friends are with me on this and they do not want to say it out loud because they are scared to be called anti-vaxxed or to be called science denial or to be smeared as a Trumper."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-maher-new-york-new-jersey-did-worse-than-florida-florida-stayed-open-went-on-with-life?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

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Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
3 hours ago, chare said:

Closest Ever to Apocalypse: Doomsday Clock Remains at 100 Seconds to Midnight

Holy whatever.  I never heard of this.  Maybe one of the babies that a woman in Texas, who already has too many mouths to feed, will be forced to deliver the baby that will SAVE THE WORLD!...Right after that baby cures cancer and global warming, injustice, need for foster care and other ilks.  Texas alone is enough to not turn the hands of this clock backwards:)

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What is the population fatality rate of NY versus Florida? What is the burden of long COVID between the two?

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13 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

What is the population fatality rate of NY versus Florida? What is the burden of long COVID between the two?

Do you trust DeSantis to provide a clear picture in the state's data? 

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45 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you trust DeSantis to provide a clear picture in the state's data? 

You're saying Bill Maher, a NYT reporter, and other liberal types don't check their facts?

You may have a point.

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