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50 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That's all a nice little deflection from the fact that elected Democrats are nothing if not raging hypocrites.  That wasn't new to the pandemic.  Just more for all to see. Apparently, Swalwell and AOC whine about masks too.  

  That's all article us meant to illustrate.  Nothing more.

You're welcome.

A deflection? A deflection from a culture war over masking? Apparently you can't appreciate the intentional partisan silliness and divisiveness of the article.  

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

California is the most lock downed state? I thought all states were fully opened.  Or is it the mask mandates.  

I love the one that said we're "mired in a deadly pandemic."   It now suits them to be concerned about covid.

California is not "locked down."  I was just there in Orange County where no one wears a mask and anything goes.

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34 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

A deflection? A deflection from a culture war over masking? Apparently you can't appreciate the intentional partisan silliness and divisiveness of the article.  

Politicians who make and/or support rules they choose to not follow themselves are who are most responsible for divisiveness on this issue.

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15 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Politicians who make and/or support rules they choose to not follow themselves are who are most responsible for divisiveness on this issue.

Really? Should we talk about republican politicians spreading pandemic misinformation while not following public health guidance as a form of divisiveness or hypocrisy? Should we start with Trump or Taylor-Greene as we consider the intentional divisiveness from political figures?

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1 hour ago, subee said:

California is not "locked down."  I was just there in Orange County where no one wears a mask and anything goes.

Orange County CA and the rest of CA does indeed have a mask mandate.

https://occovid19.ochealthinfo.com/article/oc-health-officers-orders-recommendations

38 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Really? Should we talk about republican politicians spreading pandemic misinformation while not following public health guidance as a form of divisiveness or hypocrisy? Should we start with Trump or Taylor-Greene as we consider the intentional divisiveness from political figures?

I'm all for anyone repeatedly bloviating as much as they want.  I find it quite easy to scroll past.

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54 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Orange County CA and the rest of CA does indeed have a mask mandate.

Yes, lots of places around the country do and have for a while.  I was just wondering if you can't have a drink in California and what made them the state that was locked down the most.

 

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Politicians who make and/or support rules they choose to not follow themselves are who are most responsible for divisiveness on this issue.

Perhaps, but is that the case in this man in Florida?  Obviously he wasn't breaking any rules in Florida that has no mask mandates or vaccination requirements to have a drink.  But even if they did he sure would have complied with them in both California and Florida.

Plus haven't the rules changed in California, like I said, can they not eat out an have a drink there?

I understand the temptation to make a deal of it and that's okay.

Deflection:  I'd rather read of a pro-mitigation politician having a drink in Florida because it's better than those that fought against any covid mandates and spread anti-vax sentiment and then died of covid.  Read and hear about them all the time in "the most free state in the Union" (according to DeSantis).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/conservative-radio-host-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid-marc-bernier

Yes, during the lockdown and other times there was a big to do when politicians bent the rules for themselves like when Pelosi got a haircut a day or so before lockdown was lifted.  That can be divisive.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Perhaps, but is that the case in this man in Florida?  Obviously he wasn't breaking any rules in Florida that has no mask mandates or vaccination requirements to have a drink.  But even if they did he sure would have complied with them in both California and Florida.

Plus haven't the rules changed in California, like I said, can they not eat out an have a drink there?

I understand the temptation to make a deal of it and that's okay.

Deflection:  I'd rather read of a pro-mitigation politician having a drink in Florida because it's better than those that fought against any covid mandates and spread anti-vax sentiment and then died of covid.  Read and hear about them all the time in "the most free state in the Union" (according to DeSantis).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/29/conservative-radio-host-anti-vaxxer-dies-covid-marc-bernier

Yes, during the lockdown and other times there was a big to do when politicians bent the rules for themselves like when Pelosi got a haircut a day or so before lockdown was lifted.  That can be divisive.  

 

You're correct, in that in the picture is not breaking any rules.  However, if he supports mask mandates at home in the interest of public health, I'm sure he must be putting his mask on when goes in and out of the Florida restaurants,  when he goes shopping, or any other indoor spots in Florida. 

Do we really think he is?

Also, I find it interesting that liberals are always quick to boycott a state for whatever cause.  But, it seems they don't have a problem spending money  in the state, and doing the activities, that supposedly exasperate the pandemic.

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16 minutes ago, Beerman said:

You're correct, in that in the picture is not breaking any rules.  However, if he supports mask mandates at home in the interest of public health, I'm sure he must be putting his mask on when goes in and out of the Florida restaurants,  when he goes shopping, or any other indoor spots in Florida. 

Do we really think he is?

I have no idea, but I would think so and guess would be yes he is.  At least in this part of Florida people are voluntarily putting their masks back on, myself included.    A friend that went to Sam's Club today said everyone was wearing a mask.  I've noticed the same thing in the grocery store here more and more people are masking up.  Practically everywhere employees are wearing a mask.   It is voluntary and I notice some businesses are requiring and some aren't.  A vegan grocery store I want to try out is taking appointments only for shopping and online orders.  

What is happening here is that so many people are getting covid stores are closing down or cutting hours.  Pharmacies are even shut down.  People are calling us that the pharmacy we sent their meds to is shut down due to staffing problems.  A nursing home I was to discharge a patient to today quit taking patients due to sick staff.  

Florida is no paradise with it's lack of rules.  However, people are voluntarily making their own decisions and I'm glad many people are serious about this variant.

 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Politicians who make and/or support rules they choose to not follow themselves are who are most responsible for divisiveness on this issue.

It's not really clearly that either would have been breaking rules had they been in their home states, both were seated at tables and had beverages.

But either way I don't agree that these would be examples of what is "most responsible for divisiveness".  When a member of congress compare mask rules to the holocaust that would seem more divisive.

But I would argue even more divisive than that is spreading misinformation that kills people.  When I have to arrange for a patient's family, including a 4 year old and an 8 year old, to come in to see him a last time before he dies, a patient who when he came in was repeating various Covid misinformation that is prominently spread by conservative sources, I find that about as divisive as it gets.  This was day before yesterday and far from the first example of having to watch someone die who explicitly told me the reason they didn't take basic steps to avoid this was because of this misinformation.  If you find AOC having a drink while seated outdoors as divisive as that then clearly we'll have to agree to disagree.

I'm not sure how it's possible to see masks as such a comparative hardship.  It's not all that hard.  For instance, if you're giving a speech surrounded by other people and for some reason lack the respiratory reserve to simply talk normally, maybe put on a mask.

 

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I wouldn't say that DeSantis looks and sounds "very unwell".   Nor do I agree with the rhetoric found on Reddit "DeSantis did not look or sound well during his babbling press conference today."

To me he does look a bit tired.  But his wife has cancer, and covid is out of hand so maybe he's not sleeping well.  

People are trying real hard to find something criticize these days like someone enjoying a drink in Florida or someone looking a bit haggard.

You should have seen me on Tuesday working a 12-hour shift after some insomnia.  These folks would have labeled me a demented frail babbling fool.

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6 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I wouldn't say that DeSantis looks and sounds "very unwell".   Nor do I agree with the rhetoric found on Reddit "DeSantis did not look or sound well during his babbling press conference today."

To me he does look a bit tired.  But his wife has cancer, and covid is out of hand so maybe he's not sleeping well.  

People are trying real hard to find something criticize these days like someone enjoying a drink in Florida or someone looking a bit haggard.

You should have seen me on Tuesday working a 12-hour shift after some insomnia.  These folks would have labeled me a demented frail babbling fool.

I've never found being tired or lacking sleep to cause someone to be short of breath while talking.

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