What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

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Something to understand what nurses think about re the Current News and their opinions!

[Cclm, LPN]

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Unacceptable.

https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/governors-demand-investigations-into-Mediaography-in-school-libraries/

Perhaps some exposure and investigation into such things will be helpful.  What is not helpful is bringing the Bible into the discussion.

I do think we underestimate readers, particularly high school readers.  They can handle some profanity and sexual references.  This is how they talk in real life anyway.  

I'm lucky that my parents while understanding I'm not an adult, pretty much let me read whatever I wanted to in high school.  I things on the best seller list rather than library books.  ?

http://www.ilovelibraries.org/article/top-10-banned-and-challenged-books-2020

I hear what you are saying but they have the right to express their religious believe just as you have the right to express your sexuality. 

You didn't say tho. Is that appropriate for school libraries? Yes teenagers are profane, doesn't make it okay to have profane material at their finger tips. 

I'm more concerned about the extreme fetish anything goes Media available on Media hub and the like to be honest with you. 

We've come along way from the good ol dirty magazines of the past. 

[MunoRN, RN]

5 hours ago, Cclm said:

I may be miss reading your comment. You think I think Nazi are not that bad except for the holocaust genocide? If so that's absolutely not true. 

I take issue with people like these parents being likened to nazis. Even if they do burn these books they in no way measure up to nazis. Even if they both burned books. Not even close. 

Where is that stated? " It's that the stated intent is increasingly to remove books that involve homosexuals, racial inequality, etc.". 

I think the primary concern is  the explicit sexual descriptions. There may be a few Bible thumpers that take issue with the homosexual reference but most parents have issue with the descriptions  I haven't heard any info about other books containing this type of language so it's  not conclusive that its because of homophobia. Did you read the excerpts? Do you think books like that are appropriate in school libraries? 

As for books that teach that one group is superior one group is oppressed and/or one group is culpable for the acts of people in the same group, well yeah! Those books should not be available for children. They should be removed. Imo. 

No one is saying remove books that contain information about racism of the past and present. Just the ones that do follow the ideas of CRT. 

Aside from the crazies, I think parents want as say in what their children have access to. Not everything and anything they do not like gets removed. . Something to be discussed between the parents and the school board. 

I don't disagree at all that the Nazi's acted on their intolerance and hate far more than pretty much anybody, but I disagree that the core of the problem isn't the views that then lead to this acts.  Really the only way to keep any of these acts from occurring, is to recognize and stop hatred and intolerance wherever it occurs.

The push by conservatives against school boards of late, mainly based on opposition to teaching tolerance towards homosexuals et al and teaching tolerance based on race, culture, etc has been pretty well covered.  Most notably it's been credited as how Younkin won in Virginia, spurred by a republican push against school boards which included a list of more than 800 books that should be banned, which famously included I know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou because it discussed the hardships faced by former slaves in the aftermath of the civil war.

What do you mean by "just the ones that do follow the ideas of CRT"?

I don't have any problem with these books being available to high schoolers.  And while the dad in me doesn't like that these are topics that my 12 year old daughter is already familiar with and that trying to shelter her only makes it more likely she pursue unhealthy habits, I would certainly prefer to continue to believe she's my innocent little toddler, I also recognize that she isn't, and that the most healthy thing for her is not to put her in a cocoon.  

[toomuchbaloney]

Harris and Buttigieg under the spotlight amid uncertainty over Biden’s future

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/harris-buttigieg-democrats/2021/11/13/3215219c-4310-11ec-9ea7-3eb2406a2e24_story.html

 

There's speculation that Biden won't run for reelection. 

[Beerman, BSN]

48 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Harris and Buttigieg under the spotlight amid uncertainty over Biden’s future

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/harris-buttigieg-democrats/2021/11/13/3215219c-4310-11ec-9ea7-3eb2406a2e24_story.html

 

There's speculation that Biden won't run for reelection. 

Speculation?  LOL.  I thought that was already a given.

I'll be surprised if he makes it through his term.

[MunoRN, RN]

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Because climate deals and solar panels are more important than slave labor.

"Kerry and a faction of State Department officials oppose legislation meant to curtail Chinese imports made using slave labor, sources said, due to concerns that the restrictive measures will agitate Beijing. The legislation, known as the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act, in July passed the Senate by voice vote but is stalled in the House. It would target China's construction of solar panels and other equipment the United States needs to migrate the country to green energy sources."

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/kerry-lobbying-against-legislation-to-ban-import-of-chinese-goods-produced-by-slave-labor/

 

I don't think there are many on either side of the aisle that would agree with the reported views of Kerry on this, so it doesn't appear we'll be favoring human rights over solar panels.  

But what's unfortunate is how we got in this situation at all.  The reason why this is an issue is that currently China is largest producer of polysilicon, an important component of solar panels.  

But back in 2016 the largest producer was the United States, that was until Trump's idiotic tariffs with China, as a result of which we lost our place in not only the polysilicon industry but a number of others as well.  This was in addition to the Trump administration devesting from renewable energy industries to instead focus on the energy source of the future, coal.  Yes that's right, they thought F'n coal was the future of energy.  

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/polysilicon-once-booming-remains-a-forgotten-casualty-of-the-201-tariffs

[toomuchbaloney]

Has anyone read this reporting in the Washington Post? 

 

[Beerman, BSN]

8 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I don't think there are many on either side of the aisle that would agree with the reported views of Kerry on this, so it doesn't appear we'll be favoring human rights over solar panels.  

But what's unfortunate is how we got in this situation at all.  The reason why this is an issue is that currently China is largest producer of polysilicon, an important component of solar panels.  

But back in 2016 the largest producer was the United States, that was until Trump's idiotic tariffs with China, as a result of which we lost our place in not only the polysilicon industry but a number of others as well.  This was in addition to the Trump administration devesting from renewable energy industries to instead focus on the energy source of the future, coal.  Yes that's right, they thought F'n coal was the future of energy.  

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/polysilicon-once-booming-remains-a-forgotten-casualty-of-the-201-tariffs

As your article points out, pre-Trump tariffs did most of the damage you speak of.

"In 2012, the U.S. imposed the first duties on Chinese solar cells, adding additional duties in 2014 to close a previous loophole. That same year, China finalized tariffs on U.S. polysilicon imports, slamming manufacturers such as REC with 57 percent tariffs. U.S. polysilicon manufacturers claim the tariffs were retaliatory, amounting to a full-blown trade war. They’ve been working with the U.S. Trade Representative on a solution ever since. 

In the meantime, REC has cut half its workforce. Manufacturer Hemlock Semiconductor, owned in part by Dow Chemical, shuttered a $1.2 billion factory project in Tennessee. The Wall Street Journal reports that between 2010 and 2017, the U.S. share of polysilicon production fell from 29.1 percent to 11.3 percent of the global total."

[Cclm, LPN]

11 hours ago, MunoRN said:

I don't disagree at all that the Nazi's acted on their intolerance and hate far more than pretty much anybody, but I disagree that the core of the problem isn't the views that then lead to this acts.  Really the only way to keep any of these acts from occurring, is to recognize and stop hatred and intolerance wherever it occurs.

The push by conservatives against school boards of late, mainly based on opposition to teaching tolerance towards homosexuals et al and teaching tolerance based on race, culture, etc has been pretty well covered.  Most notably it's been credited as how Younkin won in Virginia, spurred by a republican push against school boards which included a list of more than 800 books that should be banned, which famously included I know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou because it discussed the hardships faced by former slaves in the aftermath of the civil war.

What do you mean by "just the ones that do follow the ideas of CRT"?

I don't have any problem with these books being available to high schoolers.  And while the dad in me doesn't like that these are topics that my 12 year old daughter is already familiar with and that trying to shelter her only makes it more likely she pursue unhealthy habits, I would certainly prefer to continue to believe she's my innocent little toddler, I also recognize that she isn't, and that the most healthy thing for her is not to put her in a cocoon.  

I have two teenagers, a boy and a girl and 2 more children. I have been criticized for teaching them matter of fact sex education too young(earlier than their current age of course).. My daughter is 15 has a steady boyfriend and I take her to get birth control. I am no Bible thumping prude. I know the stuff at their fingertips and hear them talk vulgar stuff all the time, but I do expect schools, where they spend most of their time to have a higher standard. They can find things online that are truly discusting no matter how much you try and regulate their searches etc. 

I feel schools need to be a safe, inclusive place in which these types of books and subject matter are not readily available.  Imo

I'm not sure  how parents wanting a say in what their children consume is teaching less tolerance, hate, racism etc etc. 

As far as the Bible thumpers, I tell them that it is not their place to judge and that Jesus loves everyone, so believe what you want but don't you dare be hateful because Jesus would not approve and they will go to hell. Usually shuts them down quickly. 

[MunoRN, RN]

6 hours ago, Cclm said:

I have two teenagers, a boy and a girl and 2 more children. I have been criticized for teaching them matter of fact sex education too young(earlier than their current age of course).. My daughter is 15 has a steady boyfriend and I take her to get birth control. I am no Bible thumping prude. I know the stuff at their fingertips and hear them talk vulgar stuff all the time, but I do expect schools, where they spend most of their time to have a higher standard. They can find things online that are truly discusting no matter how much you try and regulate their searches etc. 

I feel schools need to be a safe, inclusive place in which these types of books and subject matter are not readily available.  Imo

I'm not sure  how parents wanting a say in what their children consume is teaching less tolerance, hate, racism etc etc. 

As far as the Bible thumpers, I tell them that it is not their place to judge and that Jesus loves everyone, so believe what you want but don't you dare be hateful because Jesus would not approve and they will go to hell. Usually shuts them down quickly. 

You yourself said that schools shouldn't teach anything that "follows the ideas of CRT".  Critical Race Theory is simply the premise that race-based inequities have played a role in our history.  

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

22 hours ago, Cclm said:

I hear what you are saying but they have the right to express their religious believe just as you have the right to express your sexuality. 

You didn't say tho. Is that appropriate for school libraries?

I said what you quoted wasn't acceptable.  Perhaps you missed that. 

I've said at least twice that people have the right to express their religious beliefs.  Perhaps you missed that.

I don't feel any further explanation by me is needed.  I understand too where you're coming from but it seems interesting that you expect schools to have a higher standard that you are raising your kids with. 

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

I will say that I am encouraged that evangelicals and conservatives are now suddenly concerned at human rights at the border (and in China for that matter).

https://www.Yahoo.com/news/im-evangelical-pastor-biked-1-132800672.html

[Cclm, LPN]

4 hours ago, MunoRN said:

You yourself said that schools shouldn't teach anything that "follows the ideas of CRT".  Critical Race Theory is simply the premise that race-based inequities have played a role in our history.  

It more than that and you know it. I refuse to believe you really think that. 

It's a theory that has no place being taught to children . 

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I said what you quoted wasn't acceptable.  Perhaps you missed that. 

I've said at least twice that people have the right to express their religious beliefs.  Perhaps you missed that.

I don't feel any further explanation by me is needed.  I understand too where you're coming from but it seems interesting that you expect schools to have a higher standard that you are raising your kids with. 

If they can express their religious belief, what's the issue? They say read the Bible instead of these inappropriate books?