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47 minutes ago, subee said:

The lack of field hospitals was explained to beerman before but he refuses to accept the actual history.  That would require research.

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There wasn't a "lack of field hospitals".  The field hospitals weren't utilized correctly.  Barely utilized at all, actually.  And, the explanation offered above as to why is incorrect.

Here is a little something to help you in your research:

"21 million hospital built for coronavirus victims in New York closes without ever seeing a patient"

 

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13 minutes ago, Beerman said:

There wasn't a "lack of field hospitals".  The field hospitals weren't utilized correctly.  Barely utilized at all, actually.  And, the explanation offered above as to why is incorrect.

Here is a little something to help you in your research:

"21 million hospital built for coronavirus victims in New York closes without ever seeing a patient"

 

I wonder about the timing.  Was the hospital built and ready at the time of the directive from Cuomo?   Probably not, but when built he could have backed up and stopped the transfer of these patients to nursing homes.

To me it's not necessarily the decision to send stable patients to nursing homes that bothers me so much, as I think they were doing the best they could without precedence and were in panic mode,  as the cover up of data and hiding it from the feds.  I think given the panic mode at the time it seems a reasonable thing to do when hospitals were being overwhelmed.  Of course later on when mitigation took ahold it wasn't as bad as initially thought and the extra facilities and ventilators weren't needed so it can be argued nursing home patients that could have stayed in hospitals.  

It turns out the number in New York was larger than reported.  Again, to me this is the outrage, the falsifying and omitting of true data.

Ultimately he was exposed, so wonder why we're still fine toothing the issue.

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-andrew-cuomo-us-news-coronavirus-pandemic-nursing-homes-512cae0abb55a55f375b3192f2cdd6b5

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We Have Moved Swiftly On to the Book-Burning Portion of the Proceedings

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The criteria for pulling books from circulation this week is “sexually explicit,” but the board plans to refine how material is determined to be “objectionable” for a further review of library holdings. The board voted 6–0 to order the removal. Berkeley District representative Erin Grampp was not in attendance for the vote on that issue. Two board members, Courtland representative Rabih Abuismail and Livingston representative Kirk Twigg, said they would like to see the removed books burned. “I think we should throw those books in a fire,” Abuismail said, and Twigg said he wants to “see the books before we burn them so we can identify within our community that we are eradicating this bad stuff.”

Isn't that what not learning from historical lessons looks and sounds like? 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 

We Have Moved Swiftly On to the Book-Burning Portion of the Proceedings

Isn't that what not learning from historical lessons looks and sounds like? 

I do not think the Nazi book burnings is quite the same as parent not wanting sexual explicit books available to their children. Shameful false equivalency. !!

Pretty sure they didn't mean burn literally. Perhaps they can give them to peaceful protesters to start their peacful fires. You know, inclusion!! 

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16 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I do not think the Nazi book burnings is quite the same as parent not wanting sexual explicit books available to their children. Shameful false equivalency. !!

Pretty sure they didn't mean burn literally. Perhaps they can give them to peaceful protesters to start their peacful fires. You know, inclusion!! 

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/school-system-pulls-books-graphic-sex-libraries-80219516

This is a little bit different then the book burning of history.

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10 minutes ago, Cclm said:

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/school-system-pulls-books-graphic-sex-libraries-80219516

This is a little bit different then the book burning of history.

How so? Is it different because you approve of this specific censorship?

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

We Have Moved Swiftly On to the Book-Burning Portion of the Proceedings

 Isn't that what not learning from historical lessons looks and sounds like? 

If anyone is interested, the original article that these four paragraphs were taken from.

 Spotsylvania School Board orders libraries to remove 'sexually explicit' books

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1 hour ago, Cclm said:

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/school-system-pulls-books-graphic-sex-libraries-80219516

This is a little bit different then the book burning of history.

Would you say the same if they wanted to remove and burn Charles Krauthammer’s Things That Matter or Bill Kristol’s Conversations?

It is always easy to support free speech, that we agree with.  However, it is an entirely different matter when we don't.

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Can anyone offer a legitimate reason for the FBI to raid the homes of journalists over a supposedly stolen diary?

"Why would the FBI be coming in on this?" Turley asked on "America Reports." "Project Veritas said it didn’t run the information and notified local enforcement. So there is a legitimate concern when the FBI becomes involved in this type of story, as to whether it is going outside of those navigational beacons that we use to judge whether they are acting independently."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jonathan-turley-says-fbis-involvement-in-alleged-theft-of-ashley-bidens-diary-raises-legitimate-concern

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37 minutes ago, chare said:

Would you say the same if they wanted to remove and burn Charles Krauthammer’s Things That Matter or Bill Kristol’s Conversations?

It is always easy to support free speech, that we agree with.  However, it is an entirely different matter when we don't.

I 100% support free speech. I'm not saying these books need to be destroyed or taken off the market in anyway. Just shouldn't be accessible to minors. I mean why don't we just get rid of parent controls? Let children have access to anything? Soft Media in the high school library? Because of freedom of speech? 

 

27 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Can anyone offer a legitimate reason for the FBI to raid the homes of journalists over a supposedly stolen diary?

"Why would the FBI be coming in on this?" Turley asked on "America Reports." "Project Veritas said it didn’t run the information and notified local enforcement. So there is a legitimate concern when the FBI becomes involved in this type of story, as to whether it is going outside of those navigational beacons that we use to judge whether they are acting independently."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jonathan-turley-says-fbis-involvement-in-alleged-theft-of-ashley-bidens-diary-raises-legitimate-concern

The FBI are no longer credible in my opinion. 

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

How so? Is it different because you approve of this specific censorship?

Because comparing regulation of what children consume is a far strech to the Nazi book burnings. The nazis wanted to eradicate any book that they decided went against their ideology so no one can consume them. Parents just do not want their children consuming sexual explicit literature. Anyone else who wishes to read can. 

Not the same thing. However it's a valiant attempt by the far left radicals to again falsely associate parents with white supremacists nazis or terrorist. 

FAIL. Try again.....parents do not become intimidated by those labels anymore. Because it's BS. 

And you are right! I do not support sexual graphic descriptions if oral sex on minors. Do you? 

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Here are some quotes from these books...

"Lawn Boy” by Jonathan Evison: “I sucked his dick and he sucked mine.”

“The boys among us had no trouble getting past the plain clothes and laying down plans. Take her out back, we boys figured, then: hand on the titties; put it in her coin box; put it in her cornhole; grab a hold of that braid; rub that calico.”  This quote reeks of rape culture. 

Is is not understandable why parents would not want their children reading this? 

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/09/23/parents-complain-sexually-suggestive-books-tap-bastrop-schools/5830208001/

 

 

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