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You should be able to provide evidence of one of us insinuating or stating that Biden is just as he was in 2007. 

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28 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You should be able to provide evidence of one of us insinuating or stating that Biden is just as he was in 2007. 

Just because I'm in a good mood, I'll indulge you.  Here is a portion of one of my posts:

"Anyone with any objective observation ability can compare Biden of now vs the past and easily conclude he is declining. "

 And your reply:

"There is no actual issue with Biden's cognitive function.  Your persistence in sharing propaganda which muses on such nonsense is a reflection on you. "

And, true to form, you deflected to Trump:

"Again, your complete inability to accurately discern Trump's obvious speech abnormalities and word salad leaves zero room for you to suddenly now provide expert level "concern" about Biden...when everyone knows that cognitive decline was Trump's go to projection for Biden pre election.  Why would Biden take a cognitive test simply because his predecessor was suffering obvious mental decline and was tested? Is that how and why we order cognitive tests in this country...because conservatives Trump supporters believe propaganda about other politicians? Remember how proud Trump was that he passed that cognitive assessment? Did that seem normal?

Yeah.  Why should the president of the USA take random questions from reporters at unplanned intervals? Biden has a busy schedule and a competent communications team that can handle his messaging.  He's working now, not campaigning.  We aren't used to seeing that after 4 years of grifting and campaigning instead of working. "

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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Just because I'm in a good mood, I'll indulge you.  Here is a portion of one of my posts:

"Anyone with any objective observation ability can compare Biden of now vs the past and easily conclude he is declining. "

 And your reply:

"There is no actual issue with Biden's cognitive function.  Your persistence in sharing propaganda which muses on such nonsense is a reflection on you. "

And, true to form, you deflected to Trump:

"Again, your complete inability to accurately discern Trump's obvious speech abnormalities and word salad leaves zero room for you to suddenly now provide expert level "concern" about Biden...when everyone knows that cognitive decline was Trump's go to projection for Biden pre election.  Why would Biden take a cognitive test simply because his predecessor was suffering obvious mental decline and was tested? Is that how and why we order cognitive tests in this country...because conservatives Trump supporters believe propaganda about other politicians? Remember how proud Trump was that he passed that cognitive assessment? Did that seem normal?

Yeah.  Why should the president of the USA take random questions from reporters at unplanned intervals? Biden has a busy schedule and a competent communications team that can handle his messaging.  He's working now, not campaigning.  We aren't used to seeing that after 4 years of grifting and campaigning instead of working. "

There isn't REALLY any concern about Biden's cognition. There was and continues to be concern about Trump's mental status and cognition.  That's why he was assessed.  That's why Gen Milley took some actions which have alarmed people. 

Biden takes questions from journalists, apparently the quibble is how many questions, how often.

It's normal to compare the current president to previous presidents, especially when the most recent president was called the greatest president, the chosen one, the only person who could fix things, strong, a winner, etc.  That type of language invites comparison. 

 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

That poster has called my opinion irrelevant and has "disengaged" a few times over several years.  

It always turns out to be a empty promise.

Yes, you and others here.

Maybe he's not the only one.

Keep on posting your opinions and do not let him or anyone silence you!! 

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On 11/4/2021 at 7:34 AM, Cclm said:

I may be wrong but I get the impression that you pretty much blame Trump for the whole thing. As I said, he could have handled it better. Why do we not have outrage for Gov. Cummo(sp) and the nursing home deaths? 

At the very least, a full investigation should be done. Also China did not report their outbreak soon enough. Didn't Taiwan report it? ( I have to do some research on this). 

Im happy join in some Cuomo bashing, but the supposed nursing home scandal wasn't based on anything legit.

Like every other state has been doing, the NY dept of Health pointed out existing rules that require nursing homes to accept returning patients after they are discharged from the hospital.  This is particularly important when hospitals are severely overcrowded and keeping patients in the hospital who don't actually need to be there means other patients don't get needed or lifesaving care.

A study by epidemiologists found no reason to believe it was patients returning from hospitals that introduced Covid to nursing homes, and there is also just no logical reason to believe that would be likely.

As for Trump, his claim that "prominent democrats" were calling him racist for implementing a travel ban was made up by him.  First, it wasn't a travel ban, he placed some restrictions on travel from China but unfortunately long after it had already spread internationally.

The main criticism was that despite having the ability to test being critical early on, he put his son-in-law in charge of overseeing development and implementation of a testing system, resulting in a long delay in our ability to test compared to other countries.  That and his tacit support of quack treatments, Covid denialism, and opposition to measures that limit the spread of Covid.

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55 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Im happy join in some Cuomo bashing, but the supposed nursing home scandal wasn't based on anything legit.

Like every other state has been doing, the NY dept of Health pointed out existing rules that require nursing homes to accept returning patients after they are discharged from the hospital.  This is particularly important when hospitals are severely overcrowded and keeping patients in the hospital who don't actually need to be there means other patients don't get needed or lifesaving care.

A study by epidemiologists found no reason to believe it was patients returning from hospitals that introduced Covid to nursing homes, and there is also just no logical reason to believe that would be likely.

As for Trump, his claim that "prominent democrats" were calling him racist for implementing a travel ban was made up by him.  First, it wasn't a travel ban, he placed some restrictions on travel from China but unfortunately long after it had already spread internationally.

The main criticism was that despite having the ability to test being critical early on, he put his son-in-law in charge of overseeing development and implementation of a testing system, resulting in a long delay in our ability to test compared to other countries.  That and his tacit support of quack treatments, Covid denialism, and opposition to measures that limit the spread of Covid.

I think that you have explained that nursing home thing in these threads 2 or 3 times already.  It's frustrating to have to keep repeating the same information over and over.  

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GOP Rep. Fred Upton receives death threats after voting for bipartisan infrastructure deal

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“I have a colleague, as you know, that put out the phone numbers of the 13 of us that voted that way,” Upton said. “I’d be glad to defend that vote. We’ve been working really since last Spring on a bipartisan bill.”
Upton did not name the colleague during the CNN interview, but in an interview with the Detroit News, he pointed to a tweet by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.).
Greene said last week that any House Republican who backed the measure would be “a traitor to our party, a traitor to their voters and a traitor to our donors.” After the vote, she tweeted the names and phone numbers of 12 of the 13 Republicans who voted in favor of the bill, which she described as “Joe Biden’s Communist takeover of America.”

She should be careful about throwing that word "traitor" about.  

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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

Im happy join in some Cuomo bashing, but the supposed nursing home scandal wasn't based on anything legit.

A little revisionism, eeh?

Cuomo sent covid positive patients to nursing homes.  Thousands died.  He then covered up how many died.  Not to mention he wrote a book celebrating his leadership through it all.  So, to say it wasn't based on anything legit is laughable.

Here's a little recap of some if it:

https://www.nytimes.com/article/andrew-cuomo-nursing-home-deaths.html

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

Like every other state has been doing, the NY dept of Health pointed out existing rules that require nursing homes to accept returning patients after they are discharged from the hospital.  This is particularly important when hospitals are severely overcrowded and keeping patients in the hospital who don't actually need to be there means other patients don't get needed or lifesaving care.

Rules can't be changed?  Especially when emergency hospital beds were constructed and went unused?

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

A study by epidemiologists found no reason to believe it was patients returning from hospitals that introduced Covid to nursing homes, and there is also just no logical reason to believe that would be likely.

It seems logical to at least consider that sending covid patients to nursing homes might be a bad idea.  But I have a open mind.  Please show us the "study by epidemiologists".

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

As for Trump, his claim that "prominent democrats" were calling him racist for implementing a travel ban was made up by him.  First, it wasn't a travel ban, he placed some restrictions on travel from China but unfortunately long after it had already spread internationally.

Biden the day after the travel ban was implemented:

"We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."

And, there were others, as I'm sure you know.

Funny how folks who believe Trump a racist are objecting the notion that others who think he is racist, have called him a racist.

Whatever you want to call the travel ban/restrictions, that you claim were too late, it's obvious by Biden's quote he would have done even less.

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It would have been difficult for any president to have done less than Trump relative to Covid response. 

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2 hours ago, Cclm said:

Keep on posting your opinions and do not let him or anyone silence you!! 

I'll post my opinions when I feel like it.  No one silences me.  I had a lot of time today, but usually I'm not to inclined to spend so I much time here.  There's only a handful here, and Tweety is really the only one reasonable one on "the other side" that has a open mind, and whose opion I respect.

This is more of a entertaining diversion than anything to take to too serious.

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6 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It would have been difficult for any president to have done less than Trump relative to Covid response. 

LOL!  Under his watch, the federal govt paved the way for one of the most effective vaccines there has ever been to be developed in far less time than the experts said could be done.

What has the current President done?

 

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17 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I'll post my opinions when I feel like it.  No one silences me.  I had a lot of time today, but usually I'm not to inclined to spend so I much time here.  There's only a handful here, and Tweety is really the only one reasonable one on "the other side" that has a open mind, and whose opion I respect.

This is more of a entertaining diversion than anything to take to too serious.

Interesting little manifesto from someone who “suggested” that a member who disagrees with him stop commenting and move along.

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