What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

subee, MSN, CRNA · Oct 12, 2021

56 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

I hope you aren’t this racist and sexist in your nursing practice

What's untrue about what Tweety said? If you watched any hearings involving congress the past year, this sounds like a bunch of angry white men angry at some other angry white men. If it's white on white and male on male - what is sexist or racist about that? It's WHAT we SEE when we watch any govermental hearing. I cannot think of a single thing I was ever denied in my life because I was white.

GordonGekko, MSN · Oct 12, 2021

4 minutes ago, subee said:

What's untrue about what Tweety said? If you watched any hearings involving congress the past year, this sounds like a bunch of angry white men angry at some other angry white men. If it's white on white and male on male - what is sexist or racist about that? It's WHAT we SEE when we watch any govermental hearing. I cannot think of a single thing I was ever denied in my life because I was white.

Why does their race or gender matter? Why is it okay to point that out?

It says you are retired. Try being in the job market now. I have been on multiple hiring boards and have been flat out told whites aren't going to be hired particularly men. As an Afro-Cuban I acknowledge my tremendous advantage in the job market due to the color of my skin and bilingual ability. I have both black and hispanic privilege making my career advancement very easy.

subee, MSN, CRNA · Oct 12, 2021

45 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

Why does their race or gender matter? Why is it okay to point that out?

It says you are retired. Try being in the job market now. I have been on multiple hiring boards and have been flat out told whites aren't going to be hired particularly men. As an Afro-Cuban I acknowledge my tremendous advantage in the job market due to the color of my skin and bilingual ability. I have both black and hispanic privilege making my career advancement very easy.

Silly, you brought it up when you called Tweety's post racist and sexist.

toomuchbaloney · Oct 12, 2021

43 minutes ago, Cclm said:

It's difficult for me a indigenous black and white female to accept that a white man (*using your far left idiology) would tell me if they accept me or not! Why? I don't think and act the way YOU think I should? That's racist!!

"White man" is not "far left" terminology and the discussion of racism isn't reflective of "far left ideology". You don't need to have a white man tell you if he accepts you individually. You have history that shows that white men in North America removed indigenous children from homes and villages and forced them into boarding schools where many of them died...all because they really wanted those children to forget their culture and language and become more like the white people. You certainly must know some people who endured that racist abuse, I do.

50 minutes ago, Cclm said:

I am a "other" because I will not allow far left radical democrats to tell me I'm oppressed and I am a victim? To tell me white people are all racist while being racist at the same time?

The members in this thread have already commented that not all white people are racist...yet you use that notion as a weapon implying that's what I or others have said. Is that dishonest or evidence that you don't read and comprehend what we've /I've said?

53 minutes ago, Cclm said:

There is many stereotype about the "Native Population" and how we feel about our heritage. It's not found in your non propaganda sources that you deemed not propaganda but through story telling though our elders. There us very little in the written record other than well by the white man.

After I get over feeling bad because you don't accept me, I'll tell you about it.

Is this feeling that you have about North America indigenous heritage based in Canadian or USA history? I live in the middle of Alaska and have the privilege of having been accepted into native village lives and homes. I've heard a great deal of spoken history from them, all of it moving, rich, compelling and filled with the abuses of white men.

I'm sorry that you feel bad. I don't know you, I discuss ideas and thinking and politics etc in these threads...not you personally.

chare · Oct 12, 2021

On 10/7/2021 at 10:41 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

By Dan Lamothe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/10/06/marines-aav-accident/

I hope there's going to be a broader investigation into the decision making within the military.

Why now? When I posted about this this past June, this was your response:

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We surely wouldn't want to compare the total to civilians killed by firearms in this country...or police.

What's changed since then?

nursej22, MSN, RN · Oct 12, 2021

5 hours ago, Cclm said:

I'm going to have to disagree. They left a legacy when they brought down the most evil man in history and his entire regime. Hitler and the Nazis. The legacy was very clear, "white men " will stand against evil men even of the same color and faith to protect the innocent lives of people with differnt skin color and a differnt faith.

You have used WW2 at least twice to point out how the US fought Hitler to defeat racism, presumably meaning ending the Holocaust. Except, prior to entering the war, the US refused to accept Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazis. During the war, American citizens were placed in internment camps, based on their Asian heritage. After the war, persons of color who served were denied participation in the GI bill, including refusal of college tuition and VA loans. I do not think your statement about WW2 being fought to end racism is true.

Cclm, LPN · Oct 12, 2021

6 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

You have used WW2 at least twice to point out how the US fought Hitler to defeat racism, presumably meaning ending the Holocaust. Except, prior to entering the war, the US refused to accept Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazis. During the war, American citizens were placed in internment camps, based on their Asian heritage. After the war, persons of color who served were denied participation in the GI bill, including refusal of college tuition and VA loans. I do not think your statement about WW2 being fought to end racism is true.

There will always be some of the many that are not pure of heart. As in the examples you describe.

I never said ww2 was to end racism, it was allot more than that. . However a whole lot of white men agreed that a large group of other white men were evil. They disagreed with Hitler and his filthy army and most of the world joined them in their belief. They didn't fight for themselves but the whole world.

They believced in it so much that they fought against other white men often of the same religion. Evil is evil and the majority of people are not...yes even white people.

All men are guilty of horrible acts in history. And all races have committed atrocities. However the majority of people in all races are not evil, regardless of what some people who looked like did.

May I add, the very fact that you can come on here, devalue the sacrifices of the men and women(not just white) who died for your freedom by mentioning something some people in the US did at the same time....is absolutely baffling and amazing at the same time.

Do you realize their sacrifice is what makes you free to say what you did today?

toomuchbaloney · Oct 13, 2021

2 hours ago, chare said:

Why now? When I posted about this this past June, this was your response:

What's changed since then?

The context of that discussion was different, for starters.

chare · Oct 13, 2021

4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The context of that discussion was different, for starters.

Eight Marines and a hospital corpsman are dead. You were dismissive of that event then, and you remain so now. As far as I can tell, the only difference in context is that you are using this to advance some political agenda.

Cclm, LPN · Oct 13, 2021

2 minutes ago, chare said:

Eight Marines and a hospital corpsman are dead. You were dismissive of that event then, and you remain so now. As far as I can tell, the only difference in context is that you are using this to advance some political agenda.

Or maybe "p r o a g a n d a" ? And political agenda?

Bingo!!

toomuchbaloney · Oct 13, 2021

53 minutes ago, Cclm said:

All men are guilty of horrible acts in history. And all races have committed atrocities. However the majority of people in all races are not evil, regardless of what some people who looked like did.

This statement is a deflection from the conversation about white people bringing their misogynistic racism to North America. Further, we are in agreement that the majority of people are not evil.

1 hour ago, Cclm said:

May I add, the very fact that you can come on here, devalue the sacrifices of the men and women(not just white) who died for your freedom by mentioning something some people in the US did at the same time....is absolutely baffling and amazing at the same time.

Are you saying that it's established fact that I "devalue the sacrifices of the men and women who died for my freedom? Really? Because, in my view that's just your opinion. Which people died for my right to freedom of speech? Are you talking about the revolutionary war now?

nursej22, MSN, RN · Oct 13, 2021

1 hour ago, Cclm said:May I add, the very fact that you can come on here, devalue the sacrifices of the men and women(not just white) who died for your freedom by mentioning something some people in the US did at the same time....is absolutely baffling and amazing at the same time.

I mentioned several things that were sanctioned and or carried out by our government , not just "some people." This would fit the definition of systemic racism.

I add, that you do not know me, and therefore cannot judge whether I devalue the sacrifices made during WW2.