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57 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Once again, my post was in response to someone who claimed multiple times how elected Democrats are decent and honest people, and thus can be trusted to make decisions on certain issues.

My example was just one of how they are not.  You can argue against that one example, which you were the only who has.

Everyone else went into deflection mode and went into great detail on how bad Trump, his supporters, Republicans,  etc. are.  Which, even if all of it is true, does nothing to change the fact that elected Democrats are not simply honest and decent people and should not be trusted.

What Trump and his supporters are like has nothing to do with how bad elected Democrats are.

Nah. I'm telling you that you have zero credibility to question any politician's honesty or integrity.  I'm saying that your musing that Democrats are not simply honest and decent people and should not be trusted is to be taken with a huge grain of salt given your demonstrated inability to discern obvious dishonesty, indecency and untrustworthiness. There's no point in trying to discuss any of those topics with someone who is not able to make thoughtful assessments or comparisons of behavior.  

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

What Trump and his supporters are like has nothing to do with how bad elected Democrats are.

I totally agree and we should not discuss Trump and stick with the topic at hand.  

Even though it's hard to accept criticism from people that let Trump get away with so much it is still a deflection to bring that up and not talk about the subject.  

 I'm glad that honesty and integrity are now concerns of republicans and qualities they think a President should possess.  

The bar has been set pretty low and am happy to see it raised.

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In a partisan vote, the House will not censure Waters for her comments.  

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Waters should have been more careful, given widespread fears that an acquittal for Chauvin would prompt not only peaceful demonstrations but perhaps violence as well.

But it's a stretch to say she was inciting violence. Some might regard references to "confrontational" conduct and "we mean business" as code for a call to lawless action, but the nonviolent interpretation is far more plausible.

 

https://news.Yahoo.com/opinion-republicans-overreacting-maxine-waters-180908247.html

The story on Fox is that she is unraveling the "Dems".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-avoid-confrontation-maxine-waters-chauvin-trial-comments

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had months (and months) to ponder what she would say if and when former Minneapolis Police officer Derek Chauvin was convicted of the murder of George Floyd. Which makes what she did say on Wednesday -- in the immediate aftermath of the Chauvin verdict -- all the more baffling.

"Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice," Pelosi said at an event with the Congressional Black Caucus shortly after the verdict. "For being there to call out to your mom, how heartbreaking was that," Pelosi said during the news conference. "And because of you ... your name will always be synonymous with justice."

 

Meanwhile Pelosi "misspeaks".  

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/21/politics/george-floyd-nancy-pelosi-derek-chauvin/index.html

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29 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I totally agree and we should not discuss Trump and stick with the topic at hand.  

Even though it's hard to accept criticism from people that let Trump get away with so much, I'm glad that honesty and integrity are now concerns of republicans and qualities they think a President should possess.  

The bar has been set pretty low and am happy to see it raised.

Do you think that general public republicans know what honesty and integrity in a public official looks like or means in 2021? Is there evidence of adherence to some ethical or moral code for republicans? I see mostly hypocrisy and projection. 

I don't think that a single republican (currently making noise about these matters) is actually suddenly concerned with either honesty or integrity. There is simply too much evidence to the contrary. This is entirely partisan baloney.  

So so much baloney. 

Meanwhile, some of the companies chosen by Trumpdemic leadership have failed to produce any actual results. Their stock prices are up, though.  

Where Are The Syringes

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you think that general public republicans know what honesty and integrity in a public official looks like or means in 2021? Is there evidence of adherence to some ethical or moral code for republicans? I see mostly hypocrisy and projection. 

I don't think that a single republican (currently making noise about these matters) is actually suddenly concerned with either honesty or integrity. There is simply too much evidence to the contrary. This is entirely partisan baloney.  

So so much baloney. 

Meanwhile, some of the companies chosen by Trumpdemic leadership have failed to produce any actual results. Their stock prices are up, though.  

Where Are The Syringes

Admittedly past behavior would indicate otherwise.

However, Beerman stated "Pitting citizens against each other using lies is not the work of honest and decent people." So I'll have to take them at their word that they are suddenly concerned with honesty and decency.  

 

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10 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Admittedly past behavior would indicate otherwise.

However, Beerman stated "Pitting citizens against each other using lies is not the work of honest and decent people." So I'll have to take them at their word that they are suddenly concerned with honesty and decency.  

 

Sure.

My question is how in the world would he discern honesty or decency at this point? I mean, social conservatives say that they believe in family values and personal accountability and law and order and fiscal conservatism too...and they've clearly proven that is all a bunch of baloney...they seemingly don't know what those things are anymore.  Why would this be different?

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And so it begins!

Now the Chinese are going to find out what a real foe is! 

The Chinese foreign policy of investing in other countries to arrogantly feed their colonial ambitions is very likely to be on the skids from now on. The Pakistanis don't play well with anyone and they have the intelligence and resolve, that when they get their backs up about anything, they follow through. 

If this makes big news in Pakistan and the people take notice, I am willing to bet that this is the beginning of the death knell for Chinese colonial ambitions! China is going to be forced to respond or the leader will be seen as weak. And they only respond with force. Pakistan is absolutely the wrong country to be forceful with. They will make Vietnam and Korea look like baby wars. 

It was only a matter of time. The Sri Lankans and Africans will be next. China might have inadvertently solved the India, Pakistan tiff. The enemy of my enemy is my best friend scenario. 

And that cannot bode well if those two are in cahoots! I absolutely knew that this was bound to happen but I thought the Africans would be first! 

I really hope Biden's people are intelligent enough to jump all over this. I would be switching the majority of foreign policy resources to this. Getting Pakistan going with possibly India and Sri Lanka, solves the China problem in a huge way! 

Putin's Napoleon complex is already rearing its head but uniting Europe will solve that problem as it is in their best interests. 

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

Even though it's hard to accept criticism from people that let Trump get away with so much it is still a deflection to bring that up and not talk about the subject.  

That goes both ways.  It's hard for Trump supporters or conservatives to accept criticism from those who have let Democrats get away with despicable behavior over the years. 

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57 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That goes both ways.  It's hard for Trump supporters or conservatives to accept criticism from those who have let Democrats get away with despicable behavior over the years. 

Dude the only reason you support these folks is that they are the only ones that will accept you. I've noticed that you guys have to group together because you haven't the social skills to belong anywhere else. 

What I've also noticed is that folks like you are even judgier to yourselves than others. It's in your nature! You love to distinguish between others that look like you and can't wait to turn that same eye onto yourselves. 

I know because I've snuck into your crappy meetings. I do some travel nursing so I get places. This was in N Carolina. They all think that because I look like the prototypical Nazi that I am like them. I was just curious. You guys are filthy, smell, disorganized and gross! Showers man! Showers! 

And the level of intelligence, OMG! Conversations were one track about weapons, beer, fishing, weed and hating non whites. And why is it that you won't form into more than five or six people? Paranoid about each other? All these little cliques. There were some Hispanics and Italians there and they were being insulted repeatedly and these idiots didn't have the wherewithal to even know. No matter what you folks do, you will never be accepted into normal society. The woods and down south is where you peeps belong. Never seen a worst bunch of useless people in my life. And most were unemployed or on welfare or collecting a govt check. 

Dumb as rocks! 

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2 hours ago, Beerman said:

That goes both ways.  It's hard for Trump supporters or conservatives to accept criticism from those who have let Democrats get away with despicable behavior over the years. 

"Over the years" 

Well how convenient.  

Maybe you could give me an example of some of this despicable behavior that was excused by Democrats (at some unidentified time and place) that therefore justifies your present day inability to discern lies and corruption in today's republican leadership.  That unspecified recollection just won't allow you to acknowledge the obvious lies or malfeasance of Trump's administration...is that what you're telling us? Liberal voters were just so tolerant in the past that you just can't accept criticism from them now. Tolerant like Gary Hart level or tolerant like Al Franken level? 

Maybe more Democrats ought to behave like Gaetz or Greene or Boehbert, eh?

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8 hours ago, Beerman said:

That goes both ways.  It's hard for Trump supporters or conservatives to accept criticism from those who have let Democrats get away with despicable behavior over the years. 

Please don't group all Republicans together as "Trump supporters". I am not. I was caught by surprise when he was elected. I thought people would dismiss him, as I did. 

And, please notice, he was not reelected. 

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